Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 7 players
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SB: t1460 14.60 BBs
BB: t1705 17.05 BBs
UTG: t1560 15.60 BBs
UTG+1: t3780 37.80 BBs
Hero (MP): t1230 12.30 BBs
CO: t1925 19.25 BBs
BTN: t1840 18.40 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is MP with K J
5 folds, SB calls t50, BB checks

Flop: (t200) 9 7 5 (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks

Turn: (t200) A (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks

River: (t200) A (2 players)
SB bets t100, BB folds

Final Pot: t200
SB wins t200


^^^ Going over one of my games in class today i saw this was a mistake I made where i should of shoved this. Messing around with an ICM calculator i should be shoving K9s+ here around 25% hands should be in my range of shoving. This could of been a big factor in me going out next.

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 4 players
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BTN: t2630 21.92 BBs
SB: t190 1.58 BBs
BB: t7220 60.17 BBs
Hero (CO): t3460 28.83 BBs

Pre Flop: (t180) Hero is CO with Q Q
Hero raises to t360, 2 folds, BB raises to t7220 all in, Hero.....

^^^^ Now with a player about to be out with 130 chips on bubble is it smarter to fold the QQ in the long run look at this situation. Or since i am most likely ahead here since the SB is a 57/16 maniac who plays everything. Would it be more profitable to take the risk of chipping up to have a huge chip lead going into 3 handed or risking the bubble if im beat?

IMO fold , but what do i know you have a superior better ROI% than me but seriously i think fold is the answer

Yeah that second was my big lesson for the future. Haha my dumbass called really out of stupidity and was -ev play after some analysis and after I did call he showed K 10 and hit his K on the flop so yeah I learned a valuable lesson there. I will be studying alot of my game this weekend, because today just going through about 4 games I found a bunch of leaks I need to plug in my jamming ranges and some crucial squeeze plays I missed

i believe its a bet/fold. u should be leaving the chip leader alone on the bubble. but u should still be raising qq. im not 100% on my pov, i expect to be right but wouldnt be too suprised if im wrong, try posting that hand in the stt forum, im curious what they have to say (and post link here so i dont need to look for it)

I think i might do that but i know i should be raising but i should of folded to the shove over me. After messing with the ICM calculator the only profitable play i could call with is AA and its not that much of a significant EV move to call with AA so i mean learned that in that spot i will fold everytime if im in that situation again.

I think folding QQ is kinda gross in that spot. You obv crush villain's range...just seems uber nitty to me. If anything I'd fold just out of spite of the fishcake SB to ensure that he doesn't mincash. I understand why you are folding...all but guarantees you cash, you still have healthy stack w/the ability to outplay both opponents 3 handed. Folding and waiting for better spots isn't terribad. In the long run you'll cash more frequently but won't win as many. Although the more I think about it the more I want to fold lol.


Good thread.

Great thread. It's making me want to try it too. I've got just over $70 on FTP and have no problem multi-tabling up to 12, so this could be fun.

Thanks for the advice and inspiring progress reports.

Yeah man definitely try it out, you can can make a good sum of money this way. If you need some strategy or advice ill be gladly to help my skype is brucebower30.

Bruce, i tried 6 max today. Crazy soft, quite easy money IMO. fill quick and run quick... i found myself in a bit of a break even patch in the 9's... so wanted to try something else. made only made 60 bucks over 21 games but as usual (lol) i ran sick bad on the bubble in a lot... so a lot of potential money to be made. Ill keep ya updated if you want and we can compare results. P.S MOVE UP TO 11's lol!

I do have 1 quick question, and it's probably why I've yet to do something like this before, though I've considered it for years.

Is there a reason for doing these in turbo's? Is it because they're faster, or because your edge is bigger there?

I was thinking about doing 10 at a time, 5 normal and 5 turbo. Evaluate, then do it again and again.

Turbos are quicker meaning higher hourly and they fill faster

Good stuff man well im glad to hear your doing good in the 6' and i might check those out soon. But todays a big day lol im moving up to the $6.50's. Im going to take a shot tonight with $360 and i plan to play them full time now and will move back down the the $2's if i drop below $250 since i want to have aggressive brm for these $6's since i want to get to the $11's fast and im confident enough in my play that i can beat the $6's fairly quickly if everything goes how it has been. I will be dedicating an hour every day to study my play since there will be more strategy involved and i will need to evaluate alot more than the $2's.

Wish me Luck!

Today hasnt gone so great. 8 SNG's no cashes. uhoh and first set of 4 at the $6's no cashes... just loaded up 4 more

All is well, my next set of 4 i cashed 3 outa 4 but no wins 2 3rds and a 2nd and its ok i will beat this game i know it but i have a lot of work ahead of me

Bankroll: $342.17

loading up another set

Advice, just keep on playing them... i have days where i go through 5 sets of break even then suddenly win $100 @ the end of the day...... just keep on going ur a winning payer - more volume = more $ gl

Great job at the goal man. I've been watching your progress since the start. Just curious, what is your sn on FT? I saw a tK Bruce playing 10NL Rush a little bit ago and was wondering if that was you? You should stick to the sngs for now dude, and start crushing those 6's. Keep it up!

I picked a great time to start my own version of this one. My doomswitch is stuck on MASSIVE BRUTALITY

I played 10 normal and 10 turbo and had just an nasty run. Cashed in 1 out of 10 Turbo's and cashed in 6 of the 10 normals. Only 3 wins, which might not be too bad considering. The harshest part was that in all 3 of my 2nd places, all of my opponents basically said "Oh cool. 2nd place. Profit." And proceeded to crack some monsters with some "interesting" hands, to say the least.

Overall down only about $1.50 but the beats I took in those turbos were pretty nasty. Needless to say, I'm done with the turbos. 10 normals at a time I think will be a decent enough volume.

Sick to hear man yeah swings that you can take in SNGs is brutal just stick with it and you will be fine. Break-even there isn't bad if you only cashed one out of ten turbos.

So I havnt updated this in a while due to my failed attempt at the $6.50's yesterday dropping like ten buy ins so I cooled off and just shut the comp off and hungout with my girlfriend today and did some drastic thinking. I decided to take a little break from SNGs for a couple weeks and go back to grinding 10NL rush which was my bread and butter before trying this challenge. I want to keep this thread going because I am going to come back to SNGs once I build my roll up some more so that I am properly rolled for the $6's. I know most of you think I'm insane but it's a personal preference decision and will still update daily on my cash game grind. I hope everyone still follows me as I still plan on reaching $1,000 by summer.



Will post my rush results in about 20 minutes just finishing up my session.

Well lets just say my first 2k hands were break-even then my last like 800 or so i couldn't lose. I was 2 tabling the 10NL Rush and on one table i took my $10 all the way up to $56 and was hitting everything. I also like how when im grinding rush i get a lot more rakeback. I will post my new goals for my cash games below and i hope everyone still follows even though im not playing SNG's right now.



New Goals for Rush:

~Play 2-3k hands a day
~Get Gold Iron Man in March
~Stay Focused
~Give more credit to people
~Have $600 by my birthday on April 4th



Results from Session 1:

Hands: 2,809
Profit: $40.71
Silver Iron Man: 19/25


Bankroll: $340.44

It wasn't so much that I lost but how I lost. I would've been up a decent amount but I lost to late-night gamblers who just wanted a good time. 6Toff>AA was the worst one.

I don't actually think it went all that bad. I haven't played SnG's in awhile, so I guess this is my welcoming back relearning period.

Dude, how the hell were you able to do so well in those turbos? I'm 4/20 and all min-cashes. And all ugly bust outs to boot.

Good luck for you the rest of the way. I think I'm done.

Well guys i feel like a total idiot. And thanks to a good friend of mine who talked me back into reality. I am back for the SNG challenge because he told me im a horrible cash game player and laid it out for me that if i continue to grind the cash games i will go insane and its not worth rakeback grinding. I realize that my SNG play was getting better and better and that i need to stick with it and just because i had a fail on my first attempt at the $6.50's that im not going ot be able to make a huge chunk of money fast. It is going ot be a marathon to get to my goal and i need to stop being stupid. I had a failed attempt at playing Rush and have taken it completely out of my mind. I will clear my head and take a break for a day come back and crush these SNG's. I will have to play alot more $2's because i lost a good chunk of my BR and cash tables and from my -$50 day at the $6's. so i will grind my way back up to the top and prove to myself that i can play SNG's profitably in the long run.



Bankroll: $270.96

Total SNG's: 396
Profit: $172.80

good 2 hear your back at the SnGs. i took a stab at cash too and failed lol so i am also back grinding the 6-man turbos on stars,

i kind of find it difficult to multi table these however since theres always so much action, any tips since i know u play 4 turbos at a time, albeit 9-mans instead of 6s?

i spose i'll try getting used to 2 tabling for now