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06-07-2010 , 09:48 AM
Icky night at Harrah's, dropped 3 buy-ins live and got knocked out of my tournament very quickly. Will only be playing live one or two nights this week. Tonight should give me a lot of good STT grind time. Can't wait til I get off work and build my BR up some more. Looking to play 50 games or so tonight.

BAEVentures
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06-08-2010 , 01:09 AM
Ran like crap again tonight. Oh well.

Games Played: 34
Hours Played: 3.5
Net: -$17.10
New Bankroll: $78.10

One Hand Example:
Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t1500 M = 33.33
BB: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+1: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+2: t1500 M = 33.33
Hero (MP1): t1500 M = 33.33
MP2: t1500 M = 33.33
CO: t1500 M = 33.33
BTN: t1500 M = 33.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is MP1 with K K
3 folds, Hero raises to t90, MP2 calls t90, 3 folds, BB calls t60

Flop: (t285) Q 6 6 (3 players)
BB bets t30, Hero raises to t150, MP2 folds, BB calls t120

Turn: (t585) 4 (2 players)
BB bets t30, Hero raises to t400, BB calls t370

River: (t1385) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t420, Hero calls t420

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t2225
BB shows 7s 8c (a straight, Eight high)
Hero mucks Ks Kh
BB wins t2225






BAEVentures
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06-08-2010 , 01:31 AM
gl, I grinded my way from 25$ to 1k playing STT's and it aint no walk in the park but it's certainly doable. (Assuming you're a beginner in sng, if you are expierienced this will go fairly easy)

Keep us updated
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06-09-2010 , 11:38 PM
Dropped $100 on stars today just cause. Wanted to play a little cash but sick of seeing my losses on tilt for cash from when I tried to make a run at $2/4 when I pull up PTR.

Played 6 tables of $.05/.10 for about 4 hours, no SNG's tonight
1341 hands
Tonight Cash Net: $36.58
Tonight SNG Net: $0.00

Cash game BR: $136.58
SNG Bankroll: $78.10

Probably playing live tomorrow so won't get more online play until the weekend.

Thanks for reading.

BAEVentures

Edit: Decided to fire up one set of SNG's will, update in a bit with results.

Last edited by BAEVentures; 06-10-2010 at 12:02 AM.
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06-10-2010 , 01:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BAEVentures
Edit: Decided to fire up one set of SNG's will, update in a bit with results.
Well that was a waste of time... lol ... Played 8 games, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, breakeven after 8 games. 2 bad beats to knock me out early (AK vs KQ) and (KK vs QQ). Got it in with the best both times, lost both times.

SNG BR: $78.10 still
181 games, 12,700 hands

BAEVentures
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06-10-2010 , 06:41 AM
Good luck dude!
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06-10-2010 , 09:14 PM
I enjoy following your progress.

What type of cash are you playing? 6max?

Keep up the grind and gl at the tables.
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06-10-2010 , 11:08 PM
BAE, I think we both seem a lot alike.
I haven't deposited yet to dabble in cash, but I sure think about it.

I play mostly 18mans, and what I've found is that when I'm running poorly I really focus on STAYING TIGHT. I find myself too often getting comfortable and thinking "I can beat these players" and then playing some weaker/marginal hands and getting myself into tight spots.
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06-11-2010 , 03:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by checkmate36
I enjoy following your progress.

What type of cash are you playing? 6max?

Keep up the grind and gl at the tables.
Full Ring cash games. I only dabbled in SH games a few times on Tilt back when I used to play FR regularly. While I did ok, I still prefer FR. It's more suited to my style of play (cheap flops set mining, suited connectors, etc).

BAEVentures
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06-11-2010 , 03:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Christophersen
BAE, I think we both seem a lot alike.
I haven't deposited yet to dabble in cash, but I sure think about it.

I play mostly 18mans, and what I've found is that when I'm running poorly I really focus on STAYING TIGHT. I find myself too often getting comfortable and thinking "I can beat these players" and then playing some weaker/marginal hands and getting myself into tight spots.
My biggest problem when I'm running bad is that I tighten up so much I frequently find myself down to $t1000 as blinds hit $t50/100 and I haven't yet played a hand. Works to my advantage and disadvantage. I'm usually short stacked as we hit 5-6 handed unless I've picked up a monster, but then I tend to get pretty decent respect from table and am able to stay alive until I start catching some cards.

I used to play tons of cash games. My FT SN as well as stars SN is Botboy141. As you can see, I was profitable at the lower stakes in FR cash games, but got destroyed after some big tourney wins blowing money on $2/4. A 15 buy-in downswing on $1/2 pulled me out of that as well.

PTR shows me as -$8,712 on Tilt in cash games with a -1.00BB/100. -$6300 playing $400NL back in the day over 20k hands. -$1800 playing $200NL over 50k hands. I also lost money somehow at $50NL but was profitable at $100NL, both sample sizes roughly 20k hands. I've played 40k hands of $25NL with a 1.69BB/100 WR.

I had never used a HuD in the past, until I started playing $25NL with a small roll last year (stats started in early 2008). I've done a bunch of research/strategy/reading since then and think I could even better my WR @ 25NL. My one session on stars has me @ 13.72BB/100 but that is obviously irrelevant over 1300 hands. My goal is to try to beat 4BB/100 @ 10NL over 50k hands before I move up.

For now, I will continue to play some SNG's on FTP as I know I can hit my target ROI of 15% post rakeback if I put in the volume, however, I will also be playing cash in order to establish a BR a bit quicker so I can get back into some online play in addition to my live play.

Goals
1.) 4BB/100 @ 10NL over 50k hands
2.) 15% ROI post rakeback for $2.25 9 man STT non-turbo over a sample of 1000+ games.

Once each of these respective goals is met, I will advance in the limits and set a goal for 25NL and $5.50 9 man STT non-turbos.

BAEVentures
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06-12-2010 , 06:59 PM
Played a couple hour session of cash 10NL 6 tabling it today.

Up $17.53 on the session over 1,234 hands. Will likely play a session of SNG's tonight.

New SNG Bankroll: $83.38
New Cash Bankroll: $153.96
SNG Net: $33.38
Cash Net: $53.96
Total Net: $87.34

That's all for now. Talk to ya'll later.

BAEVentures
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06-12-2010 , 11:39 PM
Just finished up another SNG session.

21 games played
37% ROI
43% ITM
Net profit : $17.55

New SNG Bankroll: $100.93
New Cash Bankroll: $153.96
SNG Net: $50.93
Cash Net: $53.96
Total Net: $104.89

BAEVentures
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06-13-2010 , 01:50 PM
Nice work

I think with tightening up too much, just try to loosen in position and go for steals.
Especially when you are in spots with 1000 chips and blinds are 50/100, then its get profitable to steal, go for it!

But also, at microstakes, some tables are so action-heavy its rough to find a good spot with position to steal.
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06-13-2010 , 05:11 PM
Just finished up a short cash session. Ran like crap and played about as bad. Have some hands to review and post this evening from this session, but I'm sure I miss-played a couple.

430 hands played
Net profit : -$19.08

New SNG Bankroll: $100.93
New Cash Bankroll: $234.88 (added $100 to get me to ~$20 BI @ current lvl)
SNG Net: $50.93
Cash Net: $34.88
Total Net: $85.81

BAEVentures
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06-13-2010 , 07:08 PM
Quote:
My biggest problem when I'm running bad is that I tighten up so much I frequently find myself down to $t1000 as blinds hit $t50/100 and I haven't yet played a hand.
I wouldn't worry about this. This happens to most winning players. The main thing is to get it in good when it comes to pushbot time.

GL
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06-14-2010 , 03:08 AM
Just played another session of cash for a little over an hour.

545 hands played
Net profit : $2.38

New SNG Bankroll: $100.93
New Cash Bankroll: $237.16
SNG Net: $50.93
Cash Net: $37.16
Total Net: $88.09

BAEVentures
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06-14-2010 , 10:13 AM
BR chart from SNG's as well as Detailed BR chart from cash games uploaded below.

Detailed Cash Bankroll


SNG Bankroll


Should get a bunch more play time in tonight as I'm not heading out to play live except for Tuesday and Wednesday or Thursday. 2 days live this week, 2 days online, plus whatever online play I have time for over the weekend (probably won't be much with Father's Day and all...) I think I will be playing cash game tonight, 8 tables instead of 6, and will save SNG for Wednesday/Thursday.

BAEVentures
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06-14-2010 , 09:46 PM
Just played another session of cash for about 3 hours. Non-showdown winnings took a beating and ran well below all-in EV.

1355 hands played
Net profit : -$15.40

New SNG Bankroll: $100.93
New Cash Bankroll: $221.76
SNG Net: $50.93
Cash Net: $21.76
Total Net: $72.69

BAEVentures
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06-14-2010 , 11:52 PM
Hit up a session of SNG's. Only played 9 games but ran very well.

9 games played
ITM: 67%
ROI: 131%
Net profit : $26.55

New SNG Bankroll: $127.48
New Cash Bankroll: $221.76
SNG Net: $77.48
Cash Net: $21.76
Total Net: $99.24

SNG Bankroll


Cash Bankroll


BAEVentures
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06-16-2010 , 02:49 AM
Played a few more SNG's after I got back from the casino tonight. Got beat up in my step tourneys (tourney tickets left over from like 2 months ago) still have some level ones and twos now but my level 3 turned into a 1.

Had 5 bubble busts unfortunately on the $2.25's, but still came out ahead.

14 games played
ITM: 43%
ROI: 9%
Net profit : $2.70

New SNG Bankroll: $130.18
New Cash Bankroll: $221.76
SNG Net: $80.18
Cash Net: $21.76
Total Net: $101.94

Should have a few dollars headed back in RB Friday as well, looking forward to having some time to grind SNG's the rest of the week.

Poker Co-Pilot since I installed shortly after beginning this challenge, has me as having played 225 $2.25 tourneys, with a net profit of $60.75 for a 12% ROI (and an additional 3% ROI in rakeback).

Looks like I'm dead on target. Can't wait to 75-100 buy-ins for $5.50's so I can start grinding some real money as well as dabbling in some MTT's.

Until next time.

BAEVentures
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06-16-2010 , 01:29 PM
You are doing much better than me sir. I'm in the process of trying to get rakeback on Full Tilt. I'm down at the moment (about -$22) However, I feel I'm back on track and on the way up. Keep up the good work.
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06-17-2010 , 11:20 PM
Just played another session, 8 tables of 10NL 9 max on Stars. Ran QQ into AA when we both flopped sets. Seemed like every time I Cbet after missing a flop, I got floated, and either check folded the turn, or fired a second barrel and got raised. Every time I Cbet when I hit, all fold =(.

543 hands played
Net profit : -$13.15

Going to hit up SNG's for a bit, hopefully things keep going well on that front.

Will update once I'm done for the night.

BAEVentures

LOL first hand of first tourney I jump in.

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t1500 M = 33.33
BB: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG: t1500 M = 33.33
UTG+1: t1500 M = 33.33
Hero (UTG+2): t1500 M = 33.33
MP1: t1500 M = 33.33
MP2: t1500 M = 33.33
CO: t1500 M = 33.33
BTN: t1500 M = 33.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG+2 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, MP2 calls t90, CO calls t90, 1 fold, SB calls t75, 1 fold

Flop: (t390) 7 Q 7 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t275, MP2 calls t275, CO folds, SB calls t275

Turn: (t1215) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1135 all in, MP2 folds, SB calls t1135 all in

River: (t3485) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t3485
SB shows 7c 4c (three of a kind, Sevens)
Hero shows Kh Ks (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
SB wins t3485


Prolly should have checked that turn and folded the river...

Last edited by BAEVentures; 06-17-2010 at 11:29 PM.
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06-18-2010 , 01:45 AM
17 games played
ITM: 59%
ROI: 65%
Net profit : $25.75

New SNG Bankroll: $154.93
New Cash Bankroll: $208.61
SNG Net: $104.93
Cash Net: $8.61
Total Net: $113.54

242 Total Games Played
16% ROI (+3% Rakeback) = 19% ROI Currently over 242 games !
43% ITM

Been running good in SNG's for a couple days now, due to end soon, doubt I will play much this weekend but will be sure to update if I do. Otherwise, look for fresh graphs and stat pics to be uploaded Sunday.

Notable Hand of the Session:

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: t850 M = 14.17
MP1: t3920 M = 65.33
MP2: t1455 M = 24.25
Hero (CO): t1365 M = 22.75
BTN: t670 M = 11.17
SB: t1360 M = 22.67
BB: t2440 M = 40.67
UTG: t1440 M = 24

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is CO with Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 2 folds, Hero raises to t350, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t230

Flop: (t760) K 5 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t500 all in, Hero calls t500

Turn: (t1760) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t1760) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t1760
UTG+1 shows Qh Kd (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Hero shows Qs Qc (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
UTG+1 wins t1760


How bad do you have to be to call 40% of your stack pre when you have 20 BBs with KQos and then donk the flop when you hit your K?

P.S. Fought back from short stack to win this tourney =).

BAEVentures

Last edited by BAEVentures; 06-18-2010 at 01:52 AM.
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06-18-2010 , 09:34 AM
Not read this for a while...

BAEVentures, IMO you need to focus on either SNG or Cash and really learn the game. The two require completely different sets of skills and by learning/playing both I think this is a bit of a problem. If you focus on one you will become better much quicker. I will admit I go through phases of switching but I rarely play both.

What I would do is play the 10NL games and occasioanlly play $2 MTT when you have some time. That way there is always the chance of a 'big score' and $2 is nothing if your rolled for 10NL

What do you think?
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06-18-2010 , 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theskipirate
Not read this for a while...

BAEVentures, IMO you need to focus on either SNG or Cash and really learn the game. The two require completely different sets of skills and by learning/playing both I think this is a bit of a problem. If you focus on one you will become better much quicker. I will admit I go through phases of switching but I rarely play both.

What I would do is play the 10NL games and occasioanlly play $2 MTT when you have some time. That way there is always the chance of a 'big score' and $2 is nothing if your rolled for 10NL

What do you think?
I agree for the most part. I know my strong suit is in SNG's. I've been playing them since back in PP days when I was rolled for $22-55 BI's. I know my weakness is cash games as I have ditched over 8k between 50NL, 200NL and 400NL (20-30k hands each level), I made money @ 25NL and 100NL, (~50k hands each).

I am using SNG'S to build a roll on FTP that will be used strictly for SNG's and MTT's as the roll grows to 200x BI, but when I only have 45-60 minutes to play and want to do something (IE waiting on dinner or something) I want to use that opportunity to work on my cash game.

I've played plenty of both (over 1300 SNG's tracked by Sharkscope, doesn't include the roughly 1800 I played on PP back in the day), over 180,000 hands of cash on PTR, once again doesn't include old data.

I would like to be able to beat cash as well as SNG's in the long run, I am confident in my SNG game and work daily to improve it, typically via SNGWizard during my lunch breaks, as well as non-stop hand history analysis and browsing the STT forums.

Cash, I am more dabbling in my free time to see if I can turn out a win rate playing a bit nittier than I had in the past at these type of stakes. I would like to be able to grind out a roll in my free time on Stars, that I could use for cash games in the future if I ever get back to the 100NL level. While I have included my cash game statistics here, it is not relevant to my quest for SNG's. I think perhaps though, as I am obviously doing better in SNG's that I should be sticking to them.

I will definitely take that under advisement and maybe just start learning turbos so I can use up that 45-60 minutes nightly to learn to increase my hourly, rather than taking on another game, especially knowing that SNG's are my strong suit, I should probably be more concerned with building a real roll playing them, rather than improving my cash game. Thanks for the idea.

BAEVentures
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