GL, following. I'm also playing 5NL fullring at stars ATM, so will see you at the tables! My goal is also to hit 25NL by the end of the year. With any luck we'll both make it.

I had a downswing of about $20 or so early on at 5NL, now 15k hands on and I'm up about $70, just keep playing and you'll work out if you're a winner or not. There's not a huge difference between 2NL and 5NL, but there is a bit of a difference, and you do need to adjust.

@Salvetutti: Thank you for oppinion!
@Bloobird: What is your nickname at the tables? Thank you and good luck to you too!!

Post some hands from the session, but not just the loosing -EV ones :P

This is one of my lost hands. The vilain was 47/10/3.
PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $7.61
SB: $4.95
BB: $5.00
UTG: $4.60
UTG+1: $1.84
MP: $6.96
MP+1: $4.68
LP: $6.29
CO: $7.63

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.20, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.32, 2 players) 5 K 3
MP checks, Hero bets $0.95, MP raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $7.01 and is all-in, MP calls $4.16 and is all-in

Turn: ($14.04, 2 players) 2

River: ($14.04, 2 players) Q

MP shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 18%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)
Hero mucks A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
MP wins $13.46

coolers will be coolers :P. How much does he have flop aggresion?

flop agression 2..:|

I'm a 5NL player with only 10k hands experience but I would've expected AK from villain here. Just unlucky I think.

Second time I see someone calling a 3bet with KK, weird play

Totally agree with this, although I maybe would have expected 33 or 55, too.

Cooler. Was fun to see you at my tables

Have we got involved in some hands?

Are you ever considering folding here then? is it not one of them situations where we're just always paying off the pairs that have flopped a set?

Niko have you got any tips for beating 2NL? I think I am beating it but I am too tight (vpip 13 pfr 10)

What hands do you play from which position ?

Nah, was pretty std I think. You can look it up

Sincerely at NL2 I was like vpip 22 pfr 18 and had a 10 to 12 bb/100. What is your winrate? I think at NL2 you could me more loose because there are a lot of fishes at the tables. I could tell what I think is very important to beat NL2
-Very good table selection
-Control you're tilt(for me this is extremely important)
-3bet more when their fold to 3bet is over 75%.
-Fold to 4bet if you don't have nuts(especially when regulars are the ones that 4bet you)
-Be tighter from early position. (for example I don't play AJ from UTGs, not even suited)
-Extend your range from cut off and button. (78s 89s 10Js etc) this kind of speculative hands
-Try to put your opponent on a range while you're playing against him(this is a very good exercise).
-Know when to fold, and don't feel sorry if you know you played it right.

I don't no if it's anything new for you but I hope it will help.
Good luck!!!

P.S. If you have winrate over 3bb/100 over 50k hands you can say that you beat the limit. The fact that you are that tight it will help you a lot at NL5 and then at NL10.

Thanks for some of the tips. My winrate was 7bb/100 over 20k hands if I remember correctly. I always play AJ even from UTG and it gets me in trouble often. I also need to work on my tilt because that's what is causing me to lose money.

There are 2 questions I would like to ask you. Firstly, if you miss the flop with e.g a suited connector from the button (let's say 89s) the flop comes with 1 over card, what do you do if you have 1 caller ? Do you cbet? Do you check fold?

A lot of the time I lose pots because I 3x pre and then cbet 60% and most of the time i get called and I have to fold.

Also, only recently have I started to table select and I have read some bad advice from blackrains crushing the micros which said that you should try to call down fishes even with top pair. Most of the time it works but not always.

I see people with stats 70/2 or 60/50 and don't know how to play against them because I feel like any board can hit their range.

Yesterday I was doing very well, I had a 1000 hand session where I was running at 35bb/100 (1 tabling for a long time) until I checked my HEM2 and it showed me that I dropped 80bb over the last 100 hands because I wasn't getting any decent hands (I only play AJ,AQ,AK and pocket pairs, sometimes I will bet KQ and AT in late position) till I tilted 3x and shoved any two cards. Now I'm taking a break from poker for a couple of days before I bust my roll again.

Finally, how do you play 22-99 ? What if there is an over card to the board? Do you isolate limpers with 88 or 99? or do you just call or 3x it to see the flop?

Sorry for asking so many questions, I hope I will be able to help you some day as well

My answer for the first question it depends on who you're playing with. I will tell you a very good advice that will help you pretty much DON'T CBET BLUFF AGAINST FISH. If you have nothing in your hand and especially if on the flop are some overcards, after betting preflop you would better check/fold against FISH. On the other hand if you're involved with regulars you can CBET the flop against them. If your CBET gets called by a regular and the turn isn't dangerous you can CBET the TURN with regulars.(But be careful, not any turn and if you get reraised fold immediately.) So, with 89s with a fish and an overcard on the flop don't CBET, but with regs try it.

With fish like 70/x or 60/x it's easy. Be aggresive and raise when you have it, because they will call you with almost nothing.(That is why they are 70/x) and easy fold when you don't. Don't be passive with them. And don't tilt when a fish like this turns AA because **** happends and on the long run you will win!

DON'T CHECK YOUR RESULTS WHILE YOU'RE PLAYING!!!

At the second question, if a raise is not bigger than 10x I call with every 22-99. With 22-66 I limp from UTGs, and raise 3x+x from the rest of position. With 77-99 I raise 3x from every position.

AND STOP PLAYING AJ FROM UTGs!!! Believe me!

Good luck, you'll be just fine!

Thanks, that was helpful. I always cbet fish for some reason so I will have to try and fix this. as to"dont check your results while you're playing" apart from the 2 or 4 tables I have open on 1 side I have my hem2 graph which I refresh every hand and my cashier on the other side I just can't make myself not look at the results while playing. That's the second thing I will have to work on.

Do you really think calling 3-4x raises pre with small pp's is profitable? I find calling 3x raises not profitable enough since you don't flop the set often enough, + the times you do flop your set you hardly ever get to win a full stack from the villain.

Hey Niko I currently play2 nl and beating it for about 25 PTBB over a 5000 hand sample so a really small sample however the game seems super beatable. Do you know how to transfer graphs and hand histories from poker tracker 4 to 2+2 can't seem to figure it out. Thanks in advance. You can follow my progress in my bankroll thread if you like my name is Simon Gibbs

From sets you will earn 80% of your money. Let me give you some examples. You are playing against a regular and he 3x with a AKo and you have 77. The flop comes 9 3 J and he Cbets 50% of the pot, he has a fold to 3bet about 80%. There you can 3bet and blow him off. And when you do hit the flop, you can get a lot of money out of him because your hand strenght will be hidden. I called 3x with small pairs all the time and it turned just fine for me. If you don't feel comfortable calling, don't. But then don't get angry if the flop would have hit you. If you have any questions, please ask.

Indeed it's a very small sample. I'm really sorry but I use poker tracker 3. Don't know how pkt4 looks like inside.:|
Good luck for maintaining your winrate for a larger sample!

just go into pokertracker4 where your graph is , right click then save as, then upload to uploading site like imgur . com then when you post click the image button (see button for bold and italics, in the same bar but just further down, then just insert the link to your image that you hosted.

Def not beatable for that rate over a large sample but if you can adjust to these type of games and not be to spewey I feel 7 to 10 PTBBs should be sustainable good luck mate

+1

Thanks!!Good luck beating NL2!

This is my first 11k hand sample at NL5. It seems that I need a couple of days to acomodate. I hope that when I reach 20k hands my graph will look better. At first I played at 12 tables and everything was fine, then I started playing 16 tables and I almost lost everything, so I decided that playing 12 tables is better for now.



BB/100: 2
Amount won: 33$
Hands: 11k