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07-19-2015 , 01:41 AM
Hello all!

So... I just deposited on a new site and have 60 days to clear the first depositors bonus. I've decided to make a new PGC thread to try to keep myself motivated since i'm ridiculously lazy.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...nuses-1448557/

Above is a link to my old thread which i started over a year ago playing 10nl. A year later and i'm only playing 25nl!

I think reason i'm so lazy with putting in volume and working on my game is b/c i have no desire to go pro. I feel like this is no excuse! I'm really motivated to get better and play at the moment b/c the exchange rate is so good!

Deposit bonus details:
rakeback %: 25
rake per day:~33
Required daily hands at 25nl: ~1700

Weekly goals I'll give out the freerolls when i'm at 50nl
[] Read at least 25% of PMTM (the only poker book i've actually read is 'Crushing the micros', which is ridiculous and something i aim to change)
[] minimum of 14k hands
[] watch 3 videos

Current Bankroll: $1000

Go me
25nl and beyond (hopefully) Quote
07-20-2015 , 06:55 AM
First 2 days

25nl



Total:
played a bunch 4nl/10nl to get HUD ect sorted.



Don't really have many interesting hands to post as most spots were vs fish or coolers vs regs

1) Really annoying spot b/c i have way too much equity to fold against his likely OP. I think i can avoid spots like this vs villain in future my betting flop really big so i'm forced to call a shove or check calling flop. Shove is spew i'm sure.

SB: $28.79 (115.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $23.16 (92.6 bb)
CO: $140.07 (560.3 bb)
BTN: $29.59 (118.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $2.25, SB folds

Flop: ($6.75) 5 4 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.21, BTN raises to $8.02, Hero raises to $20.16 and is all-in, BTN calls $12.14

Turn: ($47.07) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($47.07) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[spoil]Results: $47.07 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 5 4 2 7 6
Hero mucked K A and lost (-$23.16 net)
BTN showed J J and won $45.07 ($21.91 net)

Rake seem quite high at this site. So far i'm paying 10.5bb/100 at 25nl (hoping this is a sample size issue) at Fulltilt i only payed 7.5!

Bankroll is: 1127
25nl and beyond (hopefully) Quote
07-20-2015 , 09:01 AM
Subbed, gl. 7.5bb/100 at 25NL seems quite low fwiw.
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07-20-2015 , 06:36 PM
Yeah ~10bb/100 is gonna be quite normal rake at the micros. gl w the challenge, subbed!
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07-21-2015 , 08:13 AM
Really annoying session. I kept disconnecting and was getting pretty tilted, especially when i disconnect ott with AA in 3bp vs a whale. I think if this happens again i'm going to just quit my session b/c i played so badly while it was happening. Both are regs.

Graph. Is out by about $10-$15 which i lost in the 3bp.



Should have been able to make a fold ott. Sizing is bad. I wanted to bet big otf b/c i don't think i changes his calling range and i want to get money in before scare cards come.


SB: $33.41 (133.6 bb)
BB: $27.08 (108.3 bb)
UTG: $25.82 (103.3 bb)
MP: $25.42 (101.7 bb)
CO: $27.35 (109.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $28.14 (112.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
UTG raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.40, BB folds, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.75) 2 3 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4, UTG folds

Turn: ($15.75) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, SB raises to $26.91 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.14 and is all-in

River: ($59.03) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

[spoil]Results: $59.03 pot ($2.95 rake)
Final Board: 2 3 2 J 6
SB showed J J and won $56.08 ($27.94 net)
Hero showed K K and lost (-$28.14 net)

Is this standard? Villain is a aggressive reg who prob 3bet about 14% SB vs btn but a bit more vs me b/c i open a bit too wide a fold a bit too much to 3bets.

SB: $64.51 (258 bb)
BB: $27.58 (110.3 bb)
UTG: $13.27 (53.1 bb)
MP: $7.50 (30 bb)
CO: $26.74 (107 bb)
Hero (BTN): $29.99 (120 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB raises to $1.75, BB folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 4 Q T (2 players)
SB bets $2.67, Hero calls $2.67

Turn: ($9.09) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

River: ($20.09) A (2 players)
SB bets $14.31, Hero calls $14.31

Spoiler:
Results: $48.71 pot ($2.43 rake)
Final Board: 4 Q T 8 A
SB showed J K and won $46.28 ($22.05 net)
Hero mucked A Q and lost (-$24.23 net)


Think i should be making a tight fold otr vs this sizing bc ppl just don't bluff 3 streets or turn pairs into bluff at 25nl.

My thought process otr was 'he has KQ', 'but there's only 4 combos of sooted KQ', 'he could be doing this with AT', 'I hate folding' 'callllllllll'


SB: $11.14 (44.6 bb)
BB: $26.27 (105.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): $23.49 (94 bb)
MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $3.97 (15.9 bb)
BTN: $46.11 (184.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) A J T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.32, Hero calls $1.32

Turn: ($4.49) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($11.49) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

Spoiler:
Results: $30.49 pot ($1.52 rake)
Final Board: A J T 8 2
Hero mucked A J and lost (-$15.07 net)
BTN showed Q K and won $28.97 ($13.90 net)
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25nl and beyond (hopefully) Quote
07-21-2015 , 08:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Subbed, gl. 7.5bb/100 at 25NL seems quite low fwiw.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
Yeah ~10bb/100 is gonna be quite normal rake at the micros. gl w the challenge, subbed!
Thanks for sub!

Rake has gone down to 9.6bb/100. I still think that's high as i'm quite tight 25/19. I think the reason it's higher than i'm use to is b/c i'm playing in a lot of 3-4 handed games which i didn't need to when i played Rush.
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07-22-2015 , 03:23 AM
Long swingy session today. Played over 5 hours!



Some hands:

Tilting hand. I though he would 3bet this pre since he has such a high 3bet %. Expected TT to be his best hand here. Take a note and move on.


SB: $30.34 (121.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.10 (100.4 bb)
UTG: $17.71 (70.8 bb)
MP: $7.50 (30 bb)
CO: $33.14 (132.6 bb)
BTN: $35.80 (143.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.25, CO folds, BTN raises to $9, Hero raises to $25.10 and is all-in, BTN calls $16.10

Flop: ($51.05) 9 4 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($51.05) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($51.05) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:
Results: $51.05 pot ($2.55 rake)
Final Board: 9 4 Q T J
Hero mucked A Q and lost (-$25.10 net)
BTN showed K K and won $48.50 ($23.40 net)


Nice run out vs reg.

SB: $24.50 (98 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.35 (101.4 bb)
UTG: $19.78 (79.1 bb)
MP: $25.45 (101.8 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $30.94 (123.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 5
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) A 5 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.14, Hero raises to $2.75, MP calls $1.61

Turn: ($7.10) J (2 players)
Hero bets $5.06, MP calls $5.06

River: ($17.22) J (2 players)
Hero bets $16.79, MP calls $16.79

Spoiler:
Results: $50.80 pot ($2.54 rake)
Final Board: A 5 2 J J
Hero showed 5 5 and won $48.26 ($22.91 net)
MP showed J K and lost (-$25.35 net)


Criminal xb vs a whale. At the time i didn't know how big a fish he was so thought he would have a lot Ahxh. Do you bet fold this vs a regular fish?



SB: $27.03 (108.1 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $24.81 (99.2 bb)
MP: $12.47 (49.9 bb)
CO: $42.90 (171.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.82 (103.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) T J 9 (2 players)
BB bets $1.05, Hero raises to $3.75, BB calls $2.70

Turn: ($8.60) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($8.60) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.12, BB calls $6.12

Spoiler:
Results: $20.84 pot ($1.04 rake)
Final Board: T J 9 3 6
BB mucked 2 T and lost (-$10.37 net)
Hero showed Q K and won $19.80 ($9.43 net)


Bet sizing in some of these hands is so bad. That's something that needs to be fixed.

Roll is $1,272
25nl and beyond (hopefully) Quote
07-24-2015 , 12:15 AM
Yesterdays graph. Most hands i've ever played in 1 day!



Did a lot of stupid stupid stuff. Still managed to book a win b/c the field is very soft. I honestly don't know why people play micro zoom on Stars if there goal is to make money. I doubt i could beat 10nlz and honestly think that if you beat it for more than 3bb/100 you could have a WR of at least 10bb/100 at 50nl on eurosites.

Hands:

1) This was proper spewy. BB is a 60 vip whale and btn is a reg. When he calls my flop bet with the whale in the pot in knew i was beat but i though if bet turn and river he would fold out most pairs better than mine. I think the turn bet is okay (x/f is probably best) b/c I think he folds 77-99 ott. The river bet is pure spew b/c he the only hand i fold out is JJ. And he has all combos of QQ-AA b/c of the BB.


SB: $8.70 (34.8 bb)
BB: $128.10 (512.4 bb)
MP: $37.83 (151.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.71 (102.8 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 6
MP raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 2 4 4 (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.85, BTN calls $1.85, MP folds

Turn: ($6.30) T (2 players)
Hero bets $4.49, BTN calls $4.49

River: ($15.28) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $10.89, BTN calls $10.89

Spoiler:
Results: $37.06 pot ($1.85 rake)
Final Board: 2 4 4 T Q
Hero showed 6 6 and lost (-$17.98 net)
BTN showed A 4 and won $35.21 ($17.23 net)


2) Getting lucky vs fish


SB: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.80 (103.2 bb)
UTG: $27.55 (110.2 bb)
MP: $34.91 (139.6 bb)
CO: $32.23 (128.9 bb)
BTN: $29.18 (116.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 4
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.40, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.50) 2 9 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.07, BTN raises to $2.75, SB calls $2.75, Hero raises to $25.30 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $21.75 and is all-in

Turn: ($53.25) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($53.25) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Spoiler:
Results: $53.25 pot ($2.66 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 4 8 A
SB showed T T and lost (-$25 net)
Hero showed 9 4 and won $50.59 ($25.59 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$3.25 net)


3) Getting luck vs reg.
Don't really know how to play these spot. x/shoving can't be that bad with my equity tho i'm doing poorly vs sets. But if I bet and he shoves it's not like i'm folding.
Maybe betting is better b/c i can fold out PPs which might xb and win at showdown. And if checks through i don't really have a plan for the turn.


Hero (SB): $24.38 (97.5 bb)
BB: $26.42 (105.7 bb)
UTG: $24.75 (99 bb)
MP: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $26.77 (107.1 bb)
BTN: $29.99 (120 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A Q
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.70, CO folds, BTN calls $0.70, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, MP calls $2.30, BTN calls $2.30

Flop: ($9.25) 7 8 J (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.19, BTN folds, Hero raises to $21.38 and is all-in, MP calls $15.19

Turn: ($52.01) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($52.01) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:
Results: $52.01 pot ($2.60 rake)
Final Board: 7 8 J 6 Q
Hero showed A Q and won $49.41 ($25.03 net)
MP showed A J and lost (-$24.38 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$3 net)


4) more spew. Villain was 3betting a lot but this is still a flat pre. running pretty good atm obv.


SB: $7.90 (31.6 bb)
BB: $55.07 (220.3 bb)
UTG: $18.95 (75.8 bb)
MP: $25.10 (100.4 bb)
CO: $24.15 (96.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $23.71 (94.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 9
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, SB folds, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $5.25, BB raises to $55.07 and is all-in, Hero calls $18.46 and is all-in

Flop: ($47.52) 5 8 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($47.52) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($47.52) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Spoiler:
Results: $47.52 pot ($2.37 rake)
Final Board: 5 8 7 6 6
BB showed K K and lost (-$23.71 net)
Hero showed 9 9 and won $45.15 ($21.44 net)
[/hand_history]
25nl and beyond (hopefully) Quote
07-24-2015 , 12:44 AM
GL sir subbed!
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07-24-2015 , 06:58 AM
Didn't feel like playing much so decided to just book the win.




1) Big spike in EV is from this hand vs a unknown fish. Don't think think there's another way to play it apart from 3betting bigger if he's going to call with that.

Hero (SB): $26.15 (104.6 bb)
BB: $24.80 (99.2 bb)
UTG: $52.23 (208.9 bb)
MP: $23.75 (95 bb)
CO: $41.68 (166.7 bb)
BTN: $24.15 (96.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, BB folds, UTG calls $3.25, BTN calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.75) 4 T 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $7.66, UTG raises to $15.32, BTN folds, Hero raises to $22.65 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.33

Turn: ($56.05) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($56.05) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[spoil]Results: $56.05 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 4 T 3 6 6
Hero showed K K and won $53.25 ($27.10 net)
UTG showed T 3 and lost (-$26.15 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$3.50 net)


2) Lost in this hand vs unknown. Was going to raise gii otf but thought i should give him a chance to bluff totally lost otr.

SB: $51.07 (204.3 bb)
BB: $40.61 (162.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): $25 (100 bb)
MP: $26.71 (106.8 bb)
CO: $9.77 (39.1 bb)
BTN: $8.75 (35 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T K
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 6 9 T (3 players)
BB bets $2.24, Hero calls $2.24, MP folds

Turn: ($6.83) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $6.49, Hero calls $6.49

River: ($19.81) J (2 players)
BB bets $18.82, Hero folds

[spoil]Results: $19.81 pot ($0.99 rake)
Final Board: 6 9 T 5 J
BB mucked and won $18.82 ($9.34 net)
Hero mucked T K and lost (-$9.48 net)


3) Not sure about this vs a reg. think it's ok.

SB: $43.03 (172.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $31.80 (127.2 bb)
UTG: $28.30 (113.2 bb)
MP: $13.24 (53 bb)
CO: $11.91 (47.6 bb)
BTN: $27.44 (109.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN raises to $4.40, Hero calls $2.40

Flop: ($8.90) Q 8 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($8.90) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

River: ($14.40) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

[spoil]Results: $14.40 pot ($0.72 rake)
Final Board: Q 8 7 6 3
Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-$7.15 net)
BTN showed T T and won $13.68 ($6.53 net)

BR: 1,476

Might shot 50 tomorrow since weekend.

Last edited by Zombiefan; 07-24-2015 at 07:07 AM.
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07-24-2015 , 07:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstaunch
GL sir subbed!
Thanks!
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07-26-2015 , 08:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombiefan

Weekly goals
[] Read at least 25% of PMTM (the only poker book i've actually read is 'Crushing the micros', which is ridiculous and something i aim to change)
[X] minimum of 14k hands
[] watch 3 videos
Completed nearly 2 out of 3 weekly goals. I watched 2/3 poker videos so close enough.

Didn't play any 50nl.

Results for week 1



Am obviously on a bit of a heater atm. long may it continue . Last month i was 20BIs under EV so i feel like i'm owed. I think if i could cut out some of the stupid **** i do i could maintain a good WR in these games.

missclick vs fish

SB: $26.14 (104.6 bb)
BB: $19.96 (79.8 bb)
UTG: $28.08 (112.3 bb)
MP: $25.14 (100.6 bb)
CO: $26.67 (106.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $39.17 (156.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 K
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.35) Q Q K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.35) 2 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.96, CO calls $0.96

River: ($3.27) A (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

[spoil]Results: $3.27 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: Q Q K 2 A
CO showed Q Q and won $3.11 ($1.65 net)
Hero mucked 8 K and lost (-$1.46 net)


Couldn't let it go vs a nit. maybe i should just overcall?

SB: $23.94 (95.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $26.84 (107.4 bb)
UTG: $91.27 (365.1 bb)
MP: $44.04 (176.2 bb)
CO: $11.24 (45 bb)
BTN: $31 (124 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, BTN folds, SB raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $6, CO folds, SB raises to $23.94 and is all-in, Hero calls $17.94

Flop: ($48.63) 9 A 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($48.63) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($48.63) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[spoil]Results: $48.63 pot ($2.43 rake)
Final Board: 9 A 3 2 Q
SB showed A A and won $46.20 ($22.26 net)
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$23.94 net)


Maybe this is bad. Esp b/c Ah is otf.

Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
BB: $33.11 (132.4 bb)
UTG: $8.27 (33.1 bb)
MP: $25.82 (103.3 bb)
CO: $32.11 (128.4 bb)
BTN: $52.40 (209.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 8
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5) 8 A J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $3.25

Turn: ($15) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $17.50 and is all-in, BB calls $17.50

River: ($50) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

[spoil]Results: $50 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 8 A J 3 9
Hero showed 8 8 and lost (-$25 net)
BB showed T K and won $47.50 ($22.50 net)

Bank roll is $1520

Goals for week:
Read 1/2 PMTM
Spend more time review HH and players
Take more notes
2 poker vids
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