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08-25-2015 , 09:34 PM
Yeah like if there were honest records with Web cams (ie what is SOP online), you'd have to say "I'm going to win X amount over the next 1,000 hours, who wants to cross book action" but without records only an idiot would take the bet just too much of an incentive to cheat.

Not saying you would cheat but it's just engineered to fail
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08-25-2015 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
I think you know that bet is never going to happen as there is too much chance of being freerolled. Not too mention you haven't set the bar very high.

I would assume you are certainly a favorite to win in that sample size s high % of the time. And I doubt you would cheat.

Nevertheless you don't know each other, don't play in the same market, etc. It's just completely impractical for this bet to happen
I'd be down to escrow and/or settle every month into the escrow, or every 100 hours throughout the bet to minimize the risk of being free rolled. I've never fabricated my winrate, never would, and wouldn't cheat. They're welcome to monitor my results any reasonable way they want... They can find people in the places I'm playing to check up on me, or see bank account screen shots (with the account # blocked obviously), or whatever.

It's easy for people to run their mouth about how much they think I suck, but none of them ever want to put their money up. If I'm so bad, they should be jumping at the opportunity to make some serious money. They're all talk, and they have no idea what they're talking about.

I'm giving them the chance to prove otherwise. They should put up or shut up. So far, they'd rather say, "LOL what a ridiculous bet," and then keep running their mouths about how I'm awful at poker.
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08-25-2015 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
Yeah like if there were honest records with Web cams (ie what is SOP online), you'd have to say "I'm going to win X amount over the next 1,000 hours, who wants to cross book action" but without records only an idiot would take the bet just too much of an incentive to cheat.

Not saying you would cheat but it's just engineered to fail
Yeah, well I play live so that's all I can offer. I don't think any casino is going to let me live stream from a glasses camera or anything.

I did offer people to do it at 10% even, and put a buyout on it, so it's not like it has to be a huge high stakes bet... But they're all talk.
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08-25-2015 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Brice
I am on record saying that you are another digiharris. You can talk a big game, but don't really know that much about poker.
Def disagree, talk quite a bit of strat with Cuse and while we don't agree on alot of points most of his hands are played well
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08-25-2015 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
Def disagree, talk quite a bit of strat with Cuse and while we don't agree on alot of points most of his hands are played well

Well if he doesn't agree with you in a lot of points that does tend to infer that he might be the GOAT
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08-25-2015 , 10:35 PM
You really need to stop giving a f what people say about you. It makes you look super insecure (not saying you are but you definitely come off that way ITT). The bet you're offering is never going to get taken up because it's too easy to get cheated (NOT SAYING YOU WOULD CHEAT).

your time should be way more valuable to you to the point where you stop writing out long thought out responses to these "haters"
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08-25-2015 , 10:41 PM
How can I trust you in a prop bet? You screwed over one of your friends so what it is stop you from doing it to a complete stranger?
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08-25-2015 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
Def disagree, talk quite a bit of strat with Cuse and while we don't agree on alot of points most of his hands are played well
Thanks 11t.

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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Well if he doesn't agree with you in a lot of points that does tend to infer that he might be the GOAT
Haha... He and I just play very different styles.

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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
You really need to stop giving a f what people say about you. It makes you look super insecure (not saying you are but you definitely come off that way ITT). The bet you're offering is never going to get taken up because it's too easy to get cheated (NOT SAYING YOU WOULD CHEAT).

your time should be way more valuable to you to the point where you stop writing out long thought out responses to these "haters"
I agree with most of this, but I haven't really been typing out long thought out responses to haters lately.

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Originally Posted by Tim Brice
How can I trust you in a prop bet? You screwed over one of your friends so what it is stop you from doing it to a complete stranger?
I didn't screw anyone over. He gained what was IMO an unfair advantage by breaking rules of casino poker, and we reached a settlement. If you actually want to take this bet, then feel free to propose any reasonable safeguards you want. If you just want to continue to talk trash about it, then I'm done responding. You can PM me or post any serious proposal in here, and I'll respond.
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08-25-2015 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
You really need to stop giving a f what people say about you. It makes you look super insecure (not saying you are but you definitely come off that way ITT). The bet you're offering is never going to get taken up because it's too easy to get cheated (NOT SAYING YOU WOULD CHEAT).

your time should be way more valuable to you to the point where you stop writing out long thought out responses to these "haters"
Agree with all of this. Except for the disclaimer about him not being insecure. He def is.

Also that whole post/paragraph about the difference between GOOD and GREAT is one of the most cringey things I have ever read. You should post less and play poker more.

Your long posts in this thread is a bad look.
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08-25-2015 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
Agree with all of this. Except for the disclaimer about him not being insecure. He def is.
Your opinion, you've never met me and you don't know me, so whatever.

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Also that whole post/paragraph about the difference between GOOD and GREAT is one of the most cringey things I have ever read. You should post less and play poker more.
It's overly simplified, but true. Lots of good players on 2p2 all play similarly and never try to go beyond their TAG box because they're scared to take the risk, then there are a bunch of them who gang up on people who play differently and accuse them of being frauds, losing players, etc.

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Your long posts in this thread is a bad look.
OK, your opinion. Plenty disagree.
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08-25-2015 , 11:42 PM
This is how it looks from the outside..

Cuse - I'm unhappy with my results.
Ecg - Tighten up a little. Focus on being the biggest winner not the "best" player.
Cuse - I'm the best! Unprovable prop bet challenge for rolls!

The one factor you control results wise is hours. And you haven't been close. Trying to be the boss is exhausting. Tighten up and get more hours in.
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08-25-2015 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Lots of good players on 2p2 all play similarly and never try to go beyond their TAG box because they're scared to take the risk, then there are a bunch of them who gang up on people who play differently and accuse them of being frauds, losing players, etc.

Names please.
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08-25-2015 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by funinbed
This is how it looks from the outside..

Cuse - I'm unhappy with my results.
Ecg - Tighten up a little. Focus on being the biggest winner not the "best" player.
Cuse - I'm the best! Unprovable prop bet challenge for rolls!

The one factor you control results wise is hours. And you haven't been close. Trying to be the boss is exhausting. Tighten up and get more hours in.
You left out a bunch of other people's BS, but ECG basically said become good at poker, i.e. I'm not good at poker... He was drunk, no big deal.

I made the prop bet offer not to ECG but to everyone. I've been accused of being a losing player ITT, DGI #2, etc, a lot. Anyone who thinks that can step up.

Bolded is a good point.

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Originally Posted by NeverLosesAtPoker
Names please.
I have no reason to do that or any interest in doing so.
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08-26-2015 , 02:15 AM
would you actually crossbook with someone decent at $2/$5? No? That's what I thought.
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08-26-2015 , 02:20 AM
If he actually has the 10bb an hour win rate he claims to have he certainly should be willing to do that.
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08-26-2015 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ITT666
If he actually has the 10bb an hour win rate he claims to have he certainly should be willing to do that.
Do what? Name names? Not sure what that has to do with winrate.
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08-26-2015 , 02:43 AM
I was replying to a post made by <'))))><food .

But I think you have him blocked, so I can understand why you weren't sure what I was referring too.
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08-26-2015 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ITT666
I was replying to a post made by <'))))><food .

But I think you have him blocked, so I can understand why you weren't sure what I was referring too.
Yeah, he's blocked.
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08-26-2015 , 02:48 AM
All it took was one post to realize op is butt hurt this will be last post here

I said something along the lines of op it doesn't matter how much your favorite in a hand if bad luck hits you can't control how the cards turn out.

And you responded that it matters

Lol ok pal, good luck changing variance with your voodoo magic
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08-26-2015 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SmackMyChipsUp1
All it took was one post to realize op is butt hurt this will be last post here

I said something along the lines of op it doesn't matter how much your favorite in a hand if bad luck hits you can't control how the cards turn out.

And you responded that it matters

Lol ok pal, good luck changing variance with your voodoo magic
Not at all what you said or what I said. You're referring to this:

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the way i look at it a loss is a loss doesnt make a difference how u lose the hand
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Well, it matters if you played it well or not.
You can't just sit there and say, well I lost, so it doesn't matter how. If you keep getting your money in as a dog and losing, saying it doesn't matter is a great way to keep losing. On the flip side, if you got your money in good and lost, knowing you played it well is important to staying confident and aggressive.
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08-26-2015 , 03:19 AM
lol my self deleted popcorn.gif is so funny now

Last edited by fozzy71; 08-26-2015 at 03:20 AM. Reason: op is really nutthurt
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08-26-2015 , 03:27 AM
[QUOTE=cuserounder;47950664]Not at all what you said or what I said. You're referring to this:





You can't just sit there and say, well I lost, so it doesn't matter how. If you keep getting your money in as a dog and losing, saying it doesn't matter is a great way to keep losing. On the flip side, if you got your money in good and lost, knowing you played it well is important to staying confident and aggressive.[/QUOTE

You posted a hand where u were a favorite and my point is it doesn't matter if you lose the hand as a strong favorite or coin flipping you can't control Lady Luck

I see so many people lose there minds and go on tilt when they were a huge favorite

My point was you lose in poker even as the favorite we can't control it

Where I will agree with you is getting your money in as a favorite, obviously you wanna get your money in good, don't we all?

I dunno if you just like to argue, but I took it that you were putting your money in good. and recieving the short end of the stick on bad luck.

Anyways get your money in good no **** Sherlock
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08-26-2015 , 03:37 AM
The way you initially wrote it did sound like you were saying 'all losses are the same' which is obviously not true.

What you are saying now obviously is true but that's not what it sounded like when you originally said it.
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08-26-2015 , 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SmackMyChipsUp1
You posted a hand where u were a favorite and my point is it doesn't matter if you lose the hand as a strong favorite or coin flipping you can't control Lady Luck

I see so many people lose there minds and go on tilt when they were a huge favorite

My point was you lose in poker even as the favorite we can't control it

Where I will agree with you is getting your money in as a favorite, obviously you wanna get your money in good, don't we all?

I dunno if you just like to argue, but I took it that you were putting your money in good. and recieving the short end of the stick on bad luck.

Anyways get your money in good no **** Sherlock
I posted about some run bad, then said I needed to go find the old post about improving my mental game to make sure I was still applying those lessons today, and now you just keep taking stuff out of context left and right, so now I'm done responding.

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Originally Posted by ITT666
The way you initially wrote it did sound like you were saying 'all losses are the same' which is obviously not true.

What you are saying now obviously is true but that's not what it sounded like when you originally said it.
Exactly.
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08-26-2015 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
lol my self deleted popcorn.gif is so funny now
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