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2014: 2Nl -> 50NL 2014: 2Nl -> 50NL

05-18-2014 , 01:40 PM
Hi guys, im an 26 year old with a full time 9-5 job with a great interest in poker. Started playing years ago but never really devoted fully into it. I would say i was a break even and maybe a slightly profitable player overall. The casino where i lived rakes incredibly stupid so its either the occasional online MTT or 1-2 home game for me.

With that being said, im earning a comfortable income and do not need to absolutely crush poker to improve my life. I do however have a bad or maybe good habit of being deeply troubled by i hand where i either misplayed or got outplayed. With a full time job, i am only able to play 1-2 times a week and since the home games are ******edly soft, i dont get to learn much from it. I mean, its cool to make some almost everytime i go play(47/58 this year) but i really wanna improve and those games wont do it.

Ive always thought that stars 5-25NL were hard when i was a beginner and even after many books and videos subscribed, i was barely breaking. And thats why i decided this will be a good way for me to really improve(The fact that i can play 1-2 hrs short sessions after work also contributes).


So yeah, ill be posting my results after sessions and spots where im confused.(Which is really the point of this thread) Ill save you the agony from 2NL, was able to beat it convincingly at 20BB/100 over 8k hands and moved to 5NL.

Graph for 5NL past 2 days.



Played okayish, but ran terrible in terms of EV. My EVAdj is at 14bb/100 which is a little better than the 12 bb/100 i was aiming for. Hope the trend of running 5 BIs under EV doesnt stick(Happend at start of 2nl too).


Some hands that im confused with

V is 26/16/0 over 56 hands, just joined table. CO is the resident fish. Please disregard the 2BB bet on the river, my hotkey was messed up. Idk what to make of this hand. KK/A4/67 seems unlikely to call 2 streets. I think the only hands that i beat was AKcc but more often than not, this is a slowplayed 33/22.



    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27012151

    MP: $8.17 (163.4 bb)
    CO: $1.43 (28.6 bb)
    BTN: $6.64 (132.8 bb)
    Hero (SB): $6.08 (121.6 bb)
    BB: $5 (100 bb)
    UTG: $5.60 (112 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J K
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

    Flop: ($0.65) 3 2 J (4 players)
    Hero bets $0.35, MP folds, CO calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35

    Turn: ($1.70) K (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.90, CO calls $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

    River: ($4.40) 5 (3 players)
    Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.03 and is all-in, BTN raises to $2.77, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $4.63 pot ($0.19 rake)
    Final Board: 3 2 J K 5
    CO showed A A and won $4.30 ($2.87 net)
    BTN showed J Q and won $0.14 (-$1.36 net)
    Hero mucked J K and lost (-$1.50 net)



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    V is a 22/14/2 Reg over 300 hands.





      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27012171

      CO: $11.58 (231.6 bb)
      BTN: $1.27 (25.4 bb)
      Hero (SB): $9.87 (197.4 bb)
      BB: $8.52 (170.4 bb)
      MP: $5.45 (109 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K 9
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.30) Q T J (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.15, BB raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.02, BB calls $0.58

      Turn: ($2.34) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.12, BB raises to $2.80, Hero calls $1.68

      River: ($7.94) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $4.55 and is all-in, Hero folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $7.94 pot ($0.33 rake)
      Final Board: Q T J 6 7
      Hero mucked K 9 and lost (-$3.97 net)
      BB mucked and won $7.61 ($3.64 net)



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      I should not even have called the turn. Even after the flop raise, i just cant find any hands that i can beat. thoughts?

      3) vs reggish player, not much hands on him

      I think i bloody butchered this hand. Should have bet the turn, maybe some Qx or hh that might not have bet the river if i had bet the turn. Dunno why i couldnt call the river too.

        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27012181

        Hero (CO): $8.69 (173.8 bb)
        BTN: $10.51 (210.2 bb)
        SB: $5 (100 bb)
        BB: $5 (100 bb)
        UTG: $6.08 (121.6 bb)
        MP: $5.48 (109.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
        UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, MP calls $0.25

        Flop: ($0.87) 8 8 Q (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50

        Turn: ($1.87) 5 (2 players)
        MP checks, Hero checks

        River: ($1.87) 5 (2 players)
        MP bets $0.65, Hero folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: $1.87 pot ($0.08 rake)
        Final Board: 8 8 Q 5 5
        Hero mucked J J and lost (-$0.90 net)
        MP mucked and won $1.79 ($0.89 net)



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        Starting BR150

        Bankroll: 215+33.87

        Would appreciate advice for a fish beginner like myself
        2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
        05-19-2014 , 12:46 PM
        Played well and run pretty well also today. Had a huge 6 BI downswing in the middle of it but i managed to work myself back.

        One thign im trying to decide on is if i should continue playing 8-12 tables. At 5 NL, i can just value bet and get away with it. Doubt anyone at this level can adjust or exploit just yet and even the regs have no clue most of the time. In fact, i made some light call down and 4bets because i thought these regs might be making a play, most of them turned out to be wrong.

        Obv playing more tables and more hands = quicker proft. As long as my bb/100 stays above 10, i dont mind adding on more tables. However, im here to improve my game and making 2 second decisions isnt helping much. Should i continue playing 12 tables or just focus on 4?

        Graph today.




        +55
        Bankroll: 270

        I should be able to move up to NL 10 now, but i dont think i want 30-40% of my roll on the tables at one time. Gonna see if i either cut back on tables or build a bigger roll first.

        PS: Need abit of help, i tagged alot of hands today on PT4 but when i went to "Play Poker". Select ''review'' and then all hands, nothing came up. Its like i never tagged them, anyone knows?
        2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
        05-19-2014 , 01:43 PM
        expect ~30bi swings and running like 20 bi below ev as normal. there have been people running 200 bi below ev. dont undeestimate variance my friend
        GL anyway!!
        and btw stating a winrate after a few thousand hands.. well that wont work
        100k hand breakeven stretches and downswings over a few 10k hands cann easily appear
        2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
        05-20-2014 , 02:25 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by fulltiltjoker
        expect ~30bi swings and running like 20 bi below ev as normal. there have been people running 200 bi below ev. dont undeestimate variance my friend
        GL anyway!!
        and btw stating a winrate after a few thousand hands.. well that wont work
        100k hand breakeven stretches and downswings over a few 10k hands cann easily appear
        Duly noted, hope that doesnt happen too often though.

        Graph today



        Graph for 5NL past 3 days



        Confirmed fish on heater.

        BR is now at 295+25

        I also cleared some deposit bonus, have a bunch of FPPs i might play some STTs on and unlocked 1 stellar already. Not sure if this is a right time for some NL10. 30 BI sounds fine but if i play up to 8 tables, one bad downswing can hurt.



          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27064161

          Hero (CO): $5 (100 bb)
          BTN: $5 (100 bb)
          SB: $13.77 (275.4 bb)
          BB: $4.01 (80.2 bb)
          MP: $8.92 (178.4 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with J 9
          MP raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, BTN folds, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

          Flop: ($0.50) 7 Q K (3 players)
          SB bets $0.25, MP folds, Hero calls $0.25

          Turn: ($1) T (2 players)
          SB bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

          River: ($2.30) 5 (2 players)
          SB bets $0.85, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $6.55, Hero calls $1.95 and is all-in

          Spoiler:
          Results: $10.20 pot ($0.42 rake)
          Final Board: 7 Q K T 5
          Hero showed J 9 and lost (-$5 net)
          SB showed A J and won $9.78 ($4.78 net)



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          I have to stop doing this. V is a reg and he is never raising the river without the nuts. Most of the time, i just think 39 BB is nothing compared to what ia lready put it and its worth to see if hes on air. But no, just no. A set would have just flat my river raise IMO and theres nothing else that i beat that will play like he did.
          2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
          05-20-2014 , 04:07 AM
          I would raise and gii ott.
          running into the higher straight is just **** that happens, he can have sets, if you gii ott he may even hava a combodraw or two pair, whatever stuff. remember, most people at nl5 wont give a **** about board structure etc. they just think "oh, I have a set, so I gii"
          as played, dont fold river.
          still GL!, seems like u are beating nl5 pretty well!
          2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
          05-21-2014 , 10:03 AM
          NL 10 Shot

          Decided to take a shot at NL 10 today after my amazing 20 BI run at NL 5. Started with 8 tables and increased to 12. Needless to say, things didnt go too well even though its only 1k+ hands. I played terrible in a couple of spots.

          V is a 28/12/0 reg.

          Everyday i tell myself not to slowplay hands. Its just a frekaing bad habit that stuck on from live home games against fish that i know loves to bluff and cant accept ur beat and check back. Everytime i play a session, i make the same damn mistake. got pretty tilted after this and lost a chunk on the other tables. Should have raised flop, not sure if he will come but i shld have made it 2.75X at least on the flop. Turn is argubly a fold but i guess i put him on Ax



            Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27094691

            UTG: $12.60 (126 bb)
            MP: $10 (100 bb)
            CO: $11.62 (116.2 bb)
            BTN: $10.17 (101.7 bb)
            Hero (SB): $12.81 (128.1 bb)
            BB: $5.53 (55.3 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 T
            UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds

            Flop: ($0.70) T A 9 (2 players)
            Hero checks, UTG bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

            Turn: ($1.50) J (2 players)
            Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $2.40, UTG calls $1.40

            River: ($6.30) 6 (2 players)
            Hero checks, UTG bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

            Spoiler:
            Results: $13.30 pot ($0.60 rake)
            Final Board: T A 9 J 6
            UTG showed Q 8 and won $12.70 ($6.10 net)
            Hero mucked 9 T and lost (-$6.60 net)



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            Against reg, BvB. A little puzzled by the turn check so i thought he might have given up or have little SDV/ace hit my range. Snap called the river without thinking much. After the hand i typed ??weird and he responded that he didnt put me on a pair and wanted me to bluff turn. Not sure how i should adjust here? This guy is literally on half my tables. I took a big pot against him with QQ on a low card rainbow flop. He spaz shove with JJ and i almost folded.


              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27094701

              BTN: $31.76 (317.6 bb)
              SB: $21.26 (212.6 bb)
              Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
              MP: $11.03 (110.3 bb)
              CO: $13.33 (133.3 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with T 9
              3 folds, SB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.35

              Flop: ($0.90) 5 4 9 (2 players)
              SB bets $0.43, Hero calls $0.43

              Turn: ($1.76) A (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero checks

              River: ($1.76) 2 (2 players)
              SB bets $0.63, Hero calls $0.63

              Spoiler:
              Results: $3.02 pot ($0.14 rake)
              Final Board: 5 4 9 A 2
              SB showed 5 5 and won $2.88 ($1.37 net)
              Hero mucked T 9 and lost (-$1.51 net)



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              3 way pot. BTN is fish.

              Im very surprised at how this turn out, i thought for sure the reg has a set here maybe at the minimum AK. Seems like a close call to me but cant be sure. I might have to stove it on my CPU later(Laptop), any ideas?





                Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27094711

                BTN: $6.35 (127 bb)
                SB: $5.71 (114.2 bb)
                BB: $5.65 (113 bb)
                UTG: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
                MP: $2.26 (45.2 bb)
                Hero (CO): $5.78 (115.6 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
                2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

                Flop: ($1.37) T 9 K (3 players)
                BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, BB raises to $1.80, Hero calls $0.90, BTN calls $0.90

                Turn: ($6.77) 8 (3 players)
                BB bets $3.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.40, BTN folds

                River: ($13.57) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $13.57 pot ($0.56 rake)
                Final Board: T 9 K 8 5
                BTN mucked and lost (-$2.25 net)
                BB showed K Q and won $13.01 ($7.36 net)
                Hero showed A J and lost (-$5.65 net)



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                Graph today



                BR is at 315 after stellar and bonus cleared.
                2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
                05-21-2014 , 07:07 PM
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by GrindationStevee
                GL
                NL 10 So far, let the run good begin~



                BR is at 338


                Unfortunately, i didnt play so well. One spot that im confused is something like this. V is a reg, no particular reads.



                  Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27120061

                  BB: $10.10 (101 bb)
                  Hero (UTG): $10 (100 bb)
                  MP: $8.82 (88.2 bb)
                  CO: $13.89 (138.9 bb)
                  BTN: $22.06 (220.6 bb)
                  SB: $9.37 (93.7 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is UTG with A Q
                  Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 4 folds

                  Flop: ($0.75) 3 J 6 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $0.40, MP calls $0.40

                  Turn: ($1.55) 3 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80

                  River: ($3.15) K (2 players)
                  Hero checks, MP checks

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $3.15 pot ($0.14 rake)
                  Final Board: 3 J 6 3 K
                  Hero showed A Q and lost (-$1.50 net)
                  MP showed J Q and won $3.01 ($1.51 net)



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                  Is it okay to fire on the turn again or better to just give up? Im getting confused with alot of AQ/AK or 88-1010 type of hands where getting value seems to be too thin and C/F looks too much like a nit and possible exploitable. I had wanted to fire again on the river to fold out flush draws or even TPWK but this seems to be an overall losing play in the long run?

                  Not sure if correct fold here but i can live with it, V is 23/15/6



                    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27120071

                    MP: $10 (100 bb)
                    CO: $8.30 (83 bb)
                    BTN: $10.96 (109.6 bb)
                    SB: $11.43 (114.3 bb)
                    Hero (BB): $12.56 (125.6 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
                    2 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $4.60, BTN raises to $10.96, Hero folds

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $9.25 pot
                    BTN mucked and won $9.25 ($4.65 net)



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                    Against reg. Dont udnerstand his river call or why he doesnt raise the turn. Not too upset about it cos theres alot of AQ/AK/FD in his range that i can bet for value on the river.

                    PokerStars Hand #116500751284: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2014/05/22 4:47:28 AWST [2014/05/21 16:47:28 ET]
                    Table 'Rastaban III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
                    Seat 1: deepasmota ($10 in chips)
                    Seat 2: genzo_proof ($10.15 in chips)
                    Seat 3: I_lucky373 ($13.47 in chips)
                    Seat 4: MicroMidHigh ($10.67 in chips)
                    Seat 5: critoss ($10.43 in chips)
                    Seat 6: Invictüs ($12.03 in chips)
                    I_lucky373: posts small blind $0.05
                    MicroMidHigh: posts big blind $0.10
                    *** HOLE CARDS ***
                    Dealt to MicroMidHigh [Ad 4d]
                    critoss: raises $0.20 to $0.30
                    Invictüs: calls $0.30
                    deepasmota: folds
                    genzo_proof: folds
                    I_lucky373: folds
                    MicroMidHigh: calls $0.20
                    *** FLOP *** [As 3s 4c]
                    MicroMidHigh: bets $0.60
                    critoss: calls $0.60
                    Invictüs: folds
                    *** TURN *** [As 3s 4c] [2c]
                    MicroMidHigh: bets $1.40
                    critoss: calls $1.40
                    *** RIVER *** [As 3s 4c 2c] [2d]
                    MicroMidHigh: bets $1.80
                    critoss: calls $1.80
                    *** SHOW DOWN ***
                    MicroMidHigh: shows [Ad 4d] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
                    critoss: shows [5h Ah] (a straight, Ace to Five)
                    critoss collected $8.17 from pot
                    *** SUMMARY ***
                    Total pot $8.55 | Rake $0.38
                    Board [As 3s 4c 2c 2d]
                    Seat 1: deepasmota folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                    Seat 2: genzo_proof (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
                    Seat 3: I_lucky373 (small blind) folded before Flop
                    Seat 4: MicroMidHigh (big blind) showed [Ad 4d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
                    Seat 5: critoss showed [5h Ah] and won ($8.17) with a straight, Ace to Five
                    Seat 6: Invictüs folded on the Flop


                    Appreciate comments on the hands! Trying to improve here.
                    2014: 2Nl -> 50NL Quote
                    05-21-2014 , 07:10 PM
                    Forgot to convert last hand, no idea how to edit i the HH Converter.





                      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #27120091

                      CO: $10 (100 bb)
                      BTN: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
                      SB: $13.47 (134.7 bb)
                      Hero (BB): $10.67 (106.7 bb)
                      UTG: $10.43 (104.3 bb)
                      MP: $12.03 (120.3 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with A 4
                      UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

                      Flop: ($0.95) A 3 4 (3 players)
                      Hero bets $0.60, UTG calls $0.60, MP folds

                      Turn: ($2.15) 2 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $1.40, UTG calls $1.40

                      River: ($4.95) 2 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $1.80, UTG calls $1.80

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $8.55 pot ($0.38 rake)
                      Final Board: A 3 4 2 2
                      Hero showed A 4 and lost (-$4.10 net)
                      UTG showed 5 A and won $8.17 ($4.07 net)



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