Atm, my sleeping pattern is really bad, im free anytime from 1pm onwards my time? I dont mind doing a 8pm my time session if you that puts you on at lunch?

@DonkeeKong99, CO/MP are the same in 6max, id its BTN/SB/BB/UTG/UTG+1/MP(CO).

I think I need to open up more on the CO as well, possibly more on the BTN as well, I think my utg/utg+1 range is fine but my c-bet/flop play is maybe whats holding it back, although as i understand winnings from position, LP should win more than EP?

My range from CO/MP = all hands that id raise utg including more marginal holdings like QT/JQ/KJ/AT/KT.

Question: Should sc connectors by in my range at all ever? I'm never calling with them and i might sometimes open with them on the button. I'm probably missing a lot of value folding these hands, can i open with them from MP/CO?

I forget what timezone you're in but...

2PM my time would be fine. It's currently 12:30am, so in 11 and a half hours?

I've heard it put both way MP or UTG+1. Either way you vpip should go up as you get closer to BTN. I know your sample is small, but you MP/UTG+1 range should be wider than UTG.

As far as suited connectors go, I open 9T+ from MP/UTG+1 and 78+ from CO and 67+ from button. That's just a generalization. I will open more depending on who's behind me. They can be tricky, but you can make some huge, disguised hands out of them. From CO and BTN I will even open suited one gappers and non-suited connectors, again depending on who's behind me.

I will call with suited connectors, mostly from CO/BTN, but sometime the blinds (vil dependent).

I'm sure you've heard it before, when you make changes, make them gradually. If you're going to add SC to your range start at BTN and work back. I think putting SC into your MP/UTG+1-BTN range will be good for your game as you can get put in some tricky situations post flop.

@Ohaither, uk timezone, in 11 hours time, is perfect, ill come on skype or pm you nearer the time.

@DonkeeKong99, Yep i've been told by many that im too tight for 6max so gradually going from nit --> TAG --> LAG is the aim, tags win, lags crush etc. Hmm opening 1 gap sc's and non suited connectors/1 gappers seems super LAG imo, I fold suited connectors 100%, mainly because my postflop has improved but it still isn't that great.

By rule of thumb, if i have 78s from MP/CO i can open with a raise? I should open them from the BTN more as well i think.

I 100% never call with suited connectors, something i've always thoguht of as bad, my calling range is just PP's to setmine, is it ok to call with SC's IP if say someone opens utg? or just opens in general. Should i look to call with SC's if theres a raise and a call as well?

I definitely want to add SC's into my game as i feel its more of a necessity at 6max, considering how tight i play as well. To start id probably just be trying to play/open them from the BTN/CO as suggested.

I also have PF 6max raising charts from HEM leakbuster from back when I had the freetrial. PM me your email address if you want them.

Gl tell me how it goes.

You said something about your post flop play lacking; that's one reason to add sc. They more you get out in spots the more your game will develope. I was a FR nit, and my post flop game was bad. Once I started playing TAG at 6max I started to see a big difference in my post flop play. I really noticed it when I was playing around on stars FR games.

Math fail here. 11 and a half hours would be 12pm lol.

It's 12:42pm. I'll be back at 2PM.

Full Tilt Poker $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $1.82
SB: $2.49
BB: $2.99
UTG: $2.00
Hero (CO): $2.49

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with T T
UTG raises to $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.17) 3 2 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.41) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28

River: ($0.97) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.68, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $0.68



19/15 132 hands, reg, doesn't step out of line etc, i did think about 55 but up until the river its +EV to just cold call, maybe I should have 3bet pre, any other thoughts on the line i took, i think only mistake was calling river as it becomes super thin value/bluffcatcher

I've got teamviewer and session open, just pm when your ready, dont have skype on this comp, makes it super laggy.

Agree, of course i want to make money and move up limits but learning the game is more important atm. Will be adding SC's in, raising from CO/BTN and some calling OOP/IP if me and raiser are deep enough, will gradually implement trying to play them multi way as well.

fwiw, I think the river is a pretty easy fold there, unless you have a betsizing tell. His 3 barrel line combined with pre flop opening range should give you a pretty good idea of his range on the river.

His general line with betsizing and everything seems to indicate that he knows pretty much where you are (medium size pocket pair) and wants to keep you in the pot with your overpair to the board.

He turned up with 55 this time, but I think like 90% of the time he turns up with JJ+ and AcKc here. He's probably checking back 77 through 1010 on the turn here for pot control.

His line given the hand he had is pretty much horrible, if that makes you feel any better. Interesting thread by the way, you seem to have a lot of dedication. I think you should expand your unopened pot BTN range to way more than just SC's. Not only will you have the positional advantage which is huge, but you'll also have a skill edge. I'm a huge winner from the button opening pretty much ATC when it's folded to me, depending on the people in the blinds obv.

But the villian rivered the winning hand.
The villian was trying to push out the OP but he lucked out on the river. Don't give too much credit to the villian.

As I said; he had 55 this time, but that's not the only hand he's gonna take this line with. This is a classic overpair JJ through AA line when hero is perceived as semi weak.

Sorry, I was taking a shower.

Watching you now but it's mega laggy.

Todays session: Lost a couple of 80/20s but money was in ahead, I think the only big mistake was the TT hand I posted, and even then it was ok and +EV right up until the river. All in all I made some minor mistakes, but nothing too costly, I ran well and played even better imo, best session for a while.

BR: $92.14, 5nl is still the goal and I will move up once I hit $100.

@ThorDrdn, I was 100% aware of his range understand that this time he had the lower part of it which I thought he did and was right up until the river, so pre, i could perhaps 3bet, flop ok, turn ok, river = fold, especially at 2nl.

I know the player and imo he takes the same line with any PP as he did with 55. But ofc river is a fold which was a mistake.

I am 100% dedicated to achieveing success in poker, im not one to give up easily, im not one to expect magic overnight either, i've worked hard so far and have seen positive results. After posting positional stats ive realised I can raise whatever I like on the BTN/CO if the blinds/BTN are tight, of course the next stage is raising into loose players with high fold to c-bet%. I'm already checking this now during play as it is very profitable.

@sexdotcom, Glad someone see's it from my point of view, villain made mistakes and I played as +EV as i could i think, perhaps raising the turn is better, but the line he takes with 55 will pay me off on the flop/turn more times than the occasions he lucks out.

@Ohaither, yea old computer along with HUD, a new computer is on the list once im working, sweat sessions are very very helpful and i want to do as many as i can, but obv with mega lagg its hard.

Well.... I think its really loose too but you can remove some hands until youre comfty playing more of them.

As for it being more effective as you move up... idk if a 200nl reg would use this chart but his raising range might be similar to the chart.

It can be effective for us too imo. (teabal dienamiks) <---- all that matters.

Adding suited connectors here at this level is just going to make you bleed money. Many people flat flop, turn and river because they have TP and cant let it go while villains range consists of all sorts of trash like K8/K9 etc that crush you kicker. You are right that they will improve your post flop play but its just not needed at nl2.

As for this thread, It does show your dedication but at the same point of time you have been struggling with nl2 for quite a while now and I think it may be because you are over complicating everything. I know I'm going to sound like a broken record but you don't need to do anything fancy at all to beat this level. Play the higher part of your range and bet/bet/shove with your strong hands and pot control with your mediocre hands and you'll be flying through the micros in no time.

Good to see your positional stats, however, I think you need to add more stats to it for it to be really helpful for us. BB/100 both actual and EV, 3bet% and success, steal % and success, cbet flop% and success, cbet turn and success, Win money @ showdown (amount won) and without showdown, Went to showdown and % won when went to showdown.... All of these stats should be helpful I think. My initial reaction to the stats you DO have posted is that you play very nitty but we all already knew that and saying that doesn't helpy you at all so add these other stats on and we can get some more info to you.

Regarding this video that lmart suggested, if you want, I'll watch it too. I might have a hard time scheduling a regular sweat session because we're in different time zones, but I could sit down and watch a video pretty easily and give you comments. That way, if we both say the same thing about certain hands, you'll know for sure that's an issue for you to address. Just let me know if you want me to review it.

I thought about this when i was away and i have the same problem regarding scheduling thats probably why for me watching a video 30mins even an hour that i can watch in a couple of parts would be better for me because i tend to get blocks of time available unexpectedly.
I also think its a good idea if you get a few people to have a look at the video, as much advice as possible is probably better.
Also again its a bit hard to keep track in these threads but have you found yourself a copy of Ryan Fees 6max ebook? I think this has a section on preflop hand ranges and if i remember was quite a good read when i read it a while back. I just looked and i still have a copy if you want me to mail it to you. I think its freely available as well so no copyright issues and the like.

@ArchitectPro, Hmm raising them from BTN/CO wouldn't be bleeding though as i'll get a fold more often than not. True I am over complicating things, but its hard to find a balance when I know I play too tight for 6max so I look into loosening up, but then that's not needed for 2/5/10nl but then people say I'm too nitty :/.

Thread has been open for 6 weeks, and my bankroll has been at ~$90 for maybe the last week/2 weeks, I don't think thats a huge amount of time to be at 2nl regarding my long term goals...

So I find myself with a dilemma, do I just play tight/nitty until I hit 5nl and slowly loosen up when I need to for the limit I'm then playing? or should I loosen up now and try to learn as much as I can cheaply.

P.s. vid will be made as soon as i'm not awake at night, sleeping during the day... this also means i get in like 3 hours a day to play (~1k hands) which is nowhere enough as I can't use comp with hud at night (parent's rules...).

@Dr_Hyde, will post other stats very soon.

@Rafybass, yea I didn't mean they'll follow it exactly but it would be similiar, however I think that a range like that wouldn't be effective at all at the micros.

@MartL, I think I've seen it before, but really didn't take to it, how effective do you think it is for the micros though? Send when you have time please.

slowly loosen up imo.

I can't find the config box that lets me see blue and red lines on every session.

Mind print screening?

When loosing up on the BTN and CO your going to find it more profitable to play broadway cards rather than lower sc. If you start to incorporate hands like K8s and K9o you'll notice you'll have better results giving you better TPGK hands. I believe someone in a earlier post mentioned Ryan fees guide to 6max. Read this over and you will understand with much greater detail what I am trying to explain. I am in no way telling you not to play sc in late position, Im just saying many people dont know when to let them go and that forces them to bleed money.

Alright, ended up two buy-ins tonight after 3 sessions. Played a total of 800 hands today, and while I could play more right now, I don't trust myself with booze in my system.

Not sure how I ended up back in this thread, but I already asked him to read it. He did, and dismissed it stating that it didn't apply to his limits. He seems interested on learning, but also it seems, he will continue hampering that and not using the most important of information available. That book is considered a bible throughout this site, yet he wont buy into it.