My goal is to start with the base 5000 play money, which you can reup once an hour, and turn it into 20 dollars. Lock has free rolls, Fun step 10 handed sng's, winning 3 in a row gives you a real dollar. I then want to turn this into 20 with 11 cent super turbo's. My time frame is 20 days. I don't have too much extra time but can probably devote 2 hours a day to poker. 45 minutes studying and 1.15 playing.

I'm MundaneMarsupial on lock, look for me in the .11 super turbo's soon.

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You'll never do it in 20 days or 23 hours. Crazy unrealistic goal

I'm not playing .11's from $1-$20, at about $5 i'll switch to HU superturbo's. But I understand your concern.

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Have you played real money games before op? Do you realize how hard its gunna be to win 3 of these sng's in a row? I guess what im asking is, why not just deposit?

It's only going to be winning 2.75 in a row. On the Fun Step 1's you can go all in with any kind of decent hand first or second hand. Because all that will be lost is play money which can be refunded, so on all Fun Step 1's I can start with some sort of advantage, or if I lose I can instantly re-up with no loses. But Lock an account verification process which seems cumbersome. I'm not denying that it will be hard but if it was an easy goal then I wouldn't make a thread about it.

hardest part will be winning 3 in a row, especially against play money donks!! once you make the $1, should be quite easy to get to $20 with good patience!! but i have to agree.....why??? 20 days, for 2 hours is 40 hours, to MAYBE make $20!!

Actually you don't have to WIN three in a row. You have to finish top 3 in the step 1, then top 2 in step 2, then an outright win in step 3 for the $1. So if my math is correct 3/10*2/10*1/10=6/1000. If you have no advantage on the field you will win $6 per 1000 sngs on average.

However, there are a couple of variables that I'm not sure how to account for. In the step 2 if you finish 3rd you get another step 2 ticket. In the step 3 if you finish 2nd you get another step 3 ticket. If you finish 3rd you get a step 2 ticket. It shouldn't be to tough to figure the values for these consolation tickets but I don't have the energy right now. Anyone have this?

I know this isn't the probabilities forum, and I'm not hating OP. I wish you luck. I just think this is going to be a very, very tough one.

I know that's why you made a thread though so again, GL.

why would the fact that you can reup make you go allin the first or 2nd hand. You should for sure play premium hands more aggressive and size your bets bigger, but just openshoving your entire stack with marginal hands early is not gonna be the best way to play them.

Why not enter 1, refill playmoney, enter another and repeat until youre playing a bunch at once. THen it might be good to just start shoving and bunch and trying to get a few big stacks going. Or is there a waiting time to reup?

Strat for each level

Step 1: These pay top 3 the same so its gonna play like a triple or nothing. You can be aggressive early because youll need to build a stack, but when it starts getting to 4-5 people left you need to tighten up because the bubble factor (ratio between how much gaining chips helps you to how much losing the same amount hurts you) would get more severe. Near the bubble a good rule to follow is be the one shoving not the one calling in an allin.

Step 2: this pays 45%/45/10 so decently top heavy. You can be more aggressive in these throughout but not too crazy. Again, waiting for premium hands and betting them aggressively is the best way to get chips. Getting 3rd here isnt worth that much so be shooting for a top 2 finish when it gets late.

Step 3: pays most to first, 10% to 2nd and like 2% for 3rd. Play this like a cash game you need to win all the chips. Play really aggressive late cause people are gonna feel like the bubble is at 4 ppl when really you should be playing for 1st.

I've messed around with these.
Step 1 requires a top 3 finish to move on to step 2.
Step 2 : Finish in top 2 to move on.
Step 3: Ship it for a buck.
Sounds Easy

Step 1:Usually half the table goes all in reminiscent of the old full tilt freerolls, Lots of open shoves and 3 or 4 callers at a time. And the play goes downhill from there.

Step2:The play gets a little better(very little). Players tighten up a lot. LOL

Step3: Winner takes all(1 buck) Tighter than you would ever imagine for a buck. Opening raises start to be more like 9x10x instead of instashoving any suited ace etc. Still really bad poker just less shoves with ace rag etc.

You have to purchase a ticket with play chips and you are only allowed 10 tickets a day. Funny to see people multi-tabling step 1s.

You gotta have the nuts damn near everytime because NO ONE is folding.

I just play shove or fold because any thought into bet sizing or post-flop strategy is a waste of time. NO ONE folds. LOL

Can be entertaining at times though.

I play em when I'm tilted from real money or busto which is quite often.

Nice idea for a thread and good luck with your challenge op. Win tons of flips and dodge tons of 2 outers. Dodging ridiculously bad beats for 3 of these in a row will be the hardest part of your challenge. I think the .11 cent hypers will be a breeze for you after you get past the three rounds of pure comedy.

Thanks for the strategy tips, I really appreciate it. The only way that shoving the first hand helps is because of the fact that you can't multi table. You have to exchange 250 play money for a coupon to play in a step one and you can't posses two of the same coupons. I think once I get a stage 2 coupon I could theoretically purchase a stage one coupon as well.

It might not actually be advantageous it just seemed so. It is hard to have a strategy for play money because it doesn't have any worth so I would think that the time saved trying to come into tourney's the big stack rather than having to play up to the big stack.

The tables are very slow once it comes to 5-6 players, especially without being able to multi, so I see getting out of the fun steps taking a lot longer than first expected but never the less 20 day's is still very realistic at this point.

After learning that you are limited to 10 tickets per day shoving first hand is a TERRIBLE idea.

You can multi-table. You just have to register for a step 1 and then go back to player admin, "buy" another step 1 ticket and register for another. You just can't have more than one unused step 1 ticket at anytime.

However I have never seen more than 3 or 4 step ones going at a time.

Your limit of 10 step 1 tickets is reset at 12:00 system time.

I know way too much about these. FML

So I play 3 step ones at a time, try to finish in top 3 in at least 2(not hard to do usually), play 2 step twos, try to finish in top 2 in at least 1,(at least an hour to get to this point, usually much more) and than I am one step away from my quest for a dollar. BTW I have never won the dollar.

Several 3rds, 2nds etc.

If I remember correctly, if you finish second in the step 3 you win another step 3 ticket.

For me it has absolutely nothing to do with the $1. Once I win it I will never play in it again. Not worth the time and frustration but addictive to me nonetheless

Railing him at 5 tables right now.

End of first day. All I have to show for it is a single SNG2 ticket. Hope it goes better tomorrow. Thank you guys for your advice, and 5 tables is too hectic. lol

Nice job OP. At least you got one step 2 ticket. Maybe you should try 4 at a time for a couple of days. That might help because you only have a little over an hour a day to play. You have to get in as many as you can.

Just a little more strat... rusemandigo hit it pretty well. However, in one of these if you do pick up a very big hand, like jj+AQ+ in the first or second hand it is a good idea to open shove IMO. Some ppl will call you with marginal thinking you are open shoving with marginal. That's +ev for you.

I figured I would try to update these when the official day ends on lock. so midnight eastern. I didn't accomplish anything with my stage 2 from yesterday and i played 4 in the morning only resulting in 2 - 4th place finishes. I decided to do a night cap tonight and played 3 more winning 2, my favorite thing about them is that top 3 players win. but you keep playing for first place. kind of silly.

The difficult part I found is trying to stay away from getting caught up in early round play. Sticking to strictly shove fold is going to be the best strategy in these games for the most part for me.

I would post a graph but shark scope doesn't do play money. but just image a line with -250 slope. then every once in awhile I refill it to 5000. and the x axis goes to 17.

Why not do the 5 day $20 challenge at your local burger flipping establishment?

Since you arent getting a rakeback deal on lock you should just sign up for an account on carbon and ill send you half of my last 60 bucks on there. Or i guess do that once you tire of this challenge.

I have high blood pressure as it is. My body couldn't handle the employee discount. This is also the greatest ROI challenge possible.

How's the 20 in 20 going?

I am attempting it too. Like I said it's not the money it's the challenge.

All tickets expire a week from the date they are issued.
New Strategy:
1: Won't play any step 2s until I have at least five step 2 tickets.

2: Won't play and step 3s until I have at least 5 step 3 tickets.

3: I will go back in forth between step2s and step3 and hopefully not have to play the step ones too often.

This way I'm not constantly going for 3 in a row or nothing. I can play a step 3 and if I don't win I go back to step 2 and win two more step 3s before I play another step3 again.

Working well so far. One cash today and a few more tickets in reserve. I won't start playing .11 hypers until I have 5 bucks.

GL man!

Hey it looks like youre up to 25 dollars. wtg!