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05-23-2012 , 10:14 AM
good luck
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05-23-2012 , 11:01 AM
Zoom poker I find to be swingy as hell, I deposited 25$ and 4 days later I Was a platinumstar with 1000$ roll.

Then I had a bad session of 50NL and donked half of it off in a few hours.
No biggie though, I just need to stop playing when i start to loose, I Never seem to recover until the next session.

I'm gonna drop back down to 10nl with some 25nl mixed in so maybe ill see you there soon.... Good luck!
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05-23-2012 , 07:25 PM
No grind for me next few days. In Melbourne for work conference.

Upside - hello live poker at Crown. :-D
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05-23-2012 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerbuddies
good luck
Cheers mate.
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05-23-2012 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xrcode
Zoom poker I find to be swingy as hell, I deposited 25$ and 4 days later I Was a platinumstar with 1000$ roll.

Then I had a bad session of 50NL and donked half of it off in a few hours.
No biggie though, I just need to stop playing when i start to loose, I Never seem to recover until the next session.

I'm gonna drop back down to 10nl with some 25nl mixed in so maybe ill see you there soon.... Good luck!
That's some awesome crushing to start with. Good plan to consolidate now too. GL.
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05-24-2012 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk23
UTG: AA-22, AK, AQ, KQs (AJ, AT, suited connectors, suited aces table dependant)
MP: UTG range, AJ, AT, KQ, JQs
CO: MP range, JQ, JT, suited Aces, A9+, some connectors (J9s, T9s, 97s, 86s)
Btn: CO range, A2+ (not always), suited kings, K9+, Q9+, J9+, range of SC and one and two gappers.
Not too far away from what I play, actually. I think it must just be the stealing OTB that makes the difference. As Gooner says, I check stats and fold-to-steal and then decide what to do from there. If BB is folding near 100% and SB is quite tight then I will often open with ATC.
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05-24-2012 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerGooner1
When playing Zoom, I disagree that your HUD is useless or not worth bothering with.
I think I would go as far to say that the HUD is more important in Zoom then standard play. Because in Zoom villains will be taking their default lines and not playing back at us or adapting to our play based upon history, because there's a lot less table dynamics at play.

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As for the redline, I don’t entirely agree with the above. It’s definitely not the be all and end all, and a positive red line shouldn’t be pursued for its own sake, as you’ll end up doing –EV things just to keep the redline up. However, having a reasonable redline (even only going down with a shallower incline) is, imo, a sign that you’re playing well. Your redline is sloping alarmingly, and you’re going to have to win a lot of showdowns to make up for it. I think it’s a case of trying to find lots of spots to win those extra little 5bb and 10bb pots, and also to fold sooner and lose smaller pots.
Good point!

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But what I’d suggest is going through your HUD and randomly pick out 20 hands that didn’t go to showdown, but that saw at least the turn, so we get to see you make several decisions each hand – and pick some hands that you won and some you lost. Pick them entirely at random, so you’re not just picking ones where it’s, ‘look, typical, I flop the nuts and get no action again,’ or, ‘look, typical, I get raised again the one time I miss.’ Pick 20 at random and post them in your thread here, and this will give us a flavour of your standard decisions, and it will be like a mini sweat session. It may be that we can immediately see a few basic things that could be improved on.
This sounds like a valuable exercise. +1
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05-24-2012 , 09:59 AM
Don't worry about redline winnings/losses...
I thought I had a leak so I tried to fix it, ended up costing me a grand and now I start over at 5NL
I don't know why on earth I thought I had a leak when I deposited 25$ and was able to move up to 50NL in 3 days....the actual leak was me trying to fix a leak that wasn't even there.
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05-24-2012 , 06:56 PM
Not a bad night at the Casino. Played 1/2 for the max buy in of $150.

Played mega passive as you can't buy in 100bb deep and they call pre with any 2 and call down with any piece, and sometime no piece. Name of the game is patience. Play as many cheap hands as you can in position, throw away if you miss and bet bet bet if you have better than tptk as they won't know its the first time you've bet in over an hour.

Finished up $200 and probably left a bit out there when I didn't pull the trigger on the river with my set of 7s on 789K2 board. Was my first big pot and had about $190 in the pot with only about $60 behind. Should have fired. He mucked when I showed the 7 but I'm sure he had a K he was ready to call off. Went conservative as I didn't want to reload and had those ridiculous "is he setting me up" thoughts. On phone now so will post a few more hands of interest when I get home from this conference tonight.
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05-25-2012 , 03:10 AM
Casino recap - buy in $150 (max), blinds $1/$2.

Won approx. $90-$100 with 77 as above.

Other wins:-

Limped AJo from hijack - 4 way pot. Flop KT2. MP bets $6, I call, Btn reraises to $12. MP and I both call. Turn Q . MP checks, I check, Btn shoves all in for $59, MP folds and I call. Btn shows up with 22 and doesn't fill up.

Limped 87 in a multi way pot. Flop K77. Guy to my right bets $11 - I call, everyone else folds. Turn 7. Bets $11, I call. River, doesn't matter.....he leads small again.....I go all Russell Crowe, acting the house down "do you have the K, ah well, I'll put you to the test, raise to $75". He calls with the K.

The Losses:-

Check my option in BB with A5o. Flop A58. I bet $7 into $10 I think. SB calls. Turn 2. I bet $20, SB calls. River Q. SB leads for $19......I call - AQ well played. Glad his bet sizing was terrible all night. Always bet far too small.

I raise KK from utg to $9 (the one and only hand I raised PF all night and had been there for about 3 hours at that stage). Called by the play every hand donk in LP. Flop A7A. I check, he checks. Turn blank. I check and call his $5 bet. River A. I check and call his $15 bet. He shows A7o for the flopped full house and rivered quads. Not sure i should have called the river but this guy fired a lot when it looked like no one wanted the pot and there's only one card this guy can have to beat me and he could have any two. Still, managed to lose only a fairly small pot in the end so no great damage.

Was slightly peeved though and left not long afterwards. 3-4 hours at the table, have not raised pre flop ONCE, and when I finally lead from utg I get a call with A7o. It's actually a good thing for the better players that this happens of course but still shake my head at what they are thinking. I mean I have KK this time but how happy can they really be when an Ace flops and Mr NitBox has raised from utg for the only time of the night. What sort of hand that doesn't crush them are they expecting to see? Surely a call with your 78s, 89s etc is a better play in this spot. Anyway, that's why we make money I guess because we do have AK plenty of times and they stack off with their random Ace.

All in all a pretty solid profit ($200), more than doubling my buy in, even though I find it hard to play that way. Really is just a patience game.

For the record, KK was the only premium hand I had all night too. 99 and AQo were the best of the other starting hands I had in all that time.
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05-26-2012 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk23
I raise KK from utg to $9 (the one and only hand I raised PF all night and had been there for about 3 hours at that stage). Called by the play every hand donk in LP. Flop A7A. I check, he checks. Turn blank. I check and call his $5 bet. River A. I check and call his $15 bet. He shows A7o for the flopped full house and rivered quads. Not sure i should have called the river but this guy fired a lot when it looked like no one wanted the pot and there's only one card this guy can have to beat me and he could have any two. Still, managed to lose only a fairly small pot in the end so no great damage.
Wow, you'd be getting stacks in on a A7AxA baord w/ KK online. I think you lost the minimum. I don't think I could ever fold river.
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05-26-2012 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mentatat
Wow, you'd be getting stacks in on a A7AxA baord w/ KK online. I think you lost the minimum. I don't think I could ever fold river.
The fishy/station level of $1/$2 live is possibly worse than 2NL online.

I wouldn't even raise without a premium because you just get too many callers who aren't laying down ever. Cbetting is virtually useless unless you actually have it.

Raise JTs for instance....5 callers....flop comes 459. PFR bets and gets called and loses to K3 on the river to the caller who spikes his 3. That tupe of thing.

Just basically stayed patient, limped in LP (never early) with PP, broadways, and some SCs or hoped for a Bb/SB special and then bet the house down when you hit the flop hard because they don't even need a pair to call down a few streets and if they do have a pair you are getting value. "Oh, well I had a pair of 3s, I couldn't lay it down".

Might try $2/$3 next time I get up there and see if it plays a little more 'normally' because while 1/2 is profitable if you are patient, it isn't necessarily enjoyable and can be terribly frustrating with some of the hnds you lose and the way you lose them.
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05-27-2012 , 01:26 AM
having a reasonable day so far, close to 2 BIs up. Would look better if it wasn't for this sort of thing. Not sure what they are thinking...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $5.05
BB: $6.79
UTG: $2.07
CO: $5.23
Hero (BTN): $5.73

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q K

UTG calls $0.05, fold, Hero raises to $0.22, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.51, 2 players) 8 2 Q
UTG bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.55, UTG raises to $1.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.21, 2 players) 9

River: ($4.21, 2 players) 9

UTG shows J T (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 36%, Flop 20%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows Q K (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 64%, Flop 80%, Turn 0%)
UTG wins $4.04





PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $6.25
SB: $6.90
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.64
MP: $5.37
CO: $2.05

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.12, 2 players) Q 5 3
CO bets $1.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.55

Turn: ($4.22, 2 players) 2

River: ($4.22, 2 players) K

CO shows A K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 45%, Flop 27%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 55%, Flop 73%, Turn 77%)
CO wins $4.04





Then again, they do this too:-

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $3.77
Hero (SB): $5.21
BB: $5.57
UTG: $5.00

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.41, Hero raises to $1.35, BB raises to $5.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.86 and is all-in

Flop: ($10.42, 2 players) 3 J 4

Turn: ($10.42, 2 players) 6

River: ($10.42, 2 players) Q

Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 93%, Flop 97%, Turn 91%)
BB shows A 7 (High Card, Ace) (Pre 7%, Flop 3%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins $9.99
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05-27-2012 , 01:28 AM
having a reasonable day so far, close to 2 BIs up. Would look better if it wasn't for this sort of thing. Not sure what they are thinking...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $5.05
BB: $6.79
UTG: $2.07
CO: $5.23
Hero (BTN): $5.73

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q K

UTG calls $0.05, fold, Hero raises to $0.22, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.51, 2 players) 8 2 Q
UTG bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.55, UTG raises to $1.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.21, 2 players) 9

River: ($4.21, 2 players) 9

UTG shows J T (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 36%, Flop 20%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows Q K (Two Pair, Queens and Nines) (Pre 64%, Flop 80%, Turn 0%)
UTG wins $4.04





PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $6.25
SB: $6.90
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.64
MP: $5.37
CO: $2.05

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.12, 2 players) Q 5 3
CO bets $1.55 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.55

Turn: ($4.22, 2 players) 2

River: ($4.22, 2 players) K

CO shows A K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 45%, Flop 27%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows 9 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 55%, Flop 73%, Turn 77%)
CO wins $4.04





Then again, they do this too. After I 4b him he went into the tank. I typed in 'shove' and he instantly did :-

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $3.77
Hero (SB): $5.21
BB: $5.57
UTG: $5.00

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.41, Hero raises to $1.35, BB raises to $5.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.86 and is all-in

Flop: ($10.42, 2 players) 3 J 4

Turn: ($10.42, 2 players) 6

River: ($10.42, 2 players) Q

Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 93%, Flop 97%, Turn 91%)
BB shows A 7 (High Card, Ace) (Pre 7%, Flop 3%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins $9.99
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05-27-2012 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk23
Bankroll Status ->

Poker Stars = Beginning $150.00 - $134.88 (losses) + $10.00 (bonus) - $3.53 (disconnection losses) = $21.59

Add re-deposit ($150.00) = Poker Stars BR $171.59

Poker Room = Beginning $15.76 (at April 13th) + $72.07 (winnings) + $15.00 (bonus) = $102.83


Overall:-

Beginning $165.76
+ Bonuses $ 25.00
- Losses $66.34
+ Re-Deposit $150.00


Total bankroll $274.42
So from this moment I have stuck to the plan and played solely 5NL 6 max (4NL on PokerRoom) and avoided jumping around all over the place. Didn't play for a few nights when I was away (but got some live poker in instead) so volume isn't great as I only 2-3 table as well.

Results have been fairly solid and I feel like for the most part I played pretty well. Still could make a few more river folds but all in all a good week without any serious tilt episodes. Tried opening a little more from CO/Btn and the stats will indicate it was only very little so I'll keep working on that.

The week's graph:-





Positional Stats:-






Bankroll - Poker Stars $ 201.41
Bankroll - PokerRoom $ 110.57


Combined $ 311.98

Weekly Profit $ 37.56



Only want to keep enough at PokerRoom to play short small stakes sessions during my lunch break, so if I can get the balance up to $150-$200 I will transfer $100 or so to Poker Stars. Once I have Poker Stars up to $300-$350, I will look to take some shots at 10NL again. For now I am happy to keep plugging away at 5NL and really get some consistency in my play and BR management happening.
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05-29-2012 , 09:00 AM
Have posted a hand for some feedback in our Crush thread and also in the micro forum here -> http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69.../#post33025820
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05-31-2012 , 06:38 PM
A real life, rather than poker related post today.

I have entered a 10km fun run (run = fun? ) in 6 weeks time from now.

http://www.runmelbourne.com.au/start.php?linkid=173

I'm 38 years old and still playing cricket. Gave up Australian Football a few years back after many years playing so that I could have one season where I have weekends with the family. Since the football stopped though, I have found it harder every winter to get motivated and do something that maintains a little fitness during the cricket off season. This year has been no different. Go to work, come home, eat-drink-play poker. Repeat.

So, as I was always a good long distance runner (when I was younger) I have decided to try something I've always wanted to do - enter a fun run. It's in 6 weeks and I will use the run as motivation to spend the next 6 weeks eating better, drinking less, sleeping more and obviously doing some training. Who knows, increased fitness might lead to better poker (or worse volume as I'll be exhausted ).

I'm 6' 3" and 99kg currently. Football playing weight was 90-92kg. Carry the weight pretty well due to my height. I'm certainly not fat and still look in reasonable shape but the upper body is starting to thicken up a bit and would love to strip down to at least 95kg and perhaps lower if things are going well.

So, 44 days to Run day. Off I go.
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05-31-2012 , 06:44 PM
how do you find the time to fit 20-25 hours of poker, if you already work and have kids?? Sorry if this has already been answered
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05-31-2012 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lime n Soda
how do you find the time to fit 20-25 hours of poker, if you already work and have kids?? Sorry if this has already been answered
Do the poker study at work (read, watch vids etc) - just like now.

Ignore the family at home



I'll have to actually check PT3 tonight when I get home to see if I am getting that much in but usually play at least 2 hours each night after the kids go to bed and then have some nice long sessions over Fri-Sun. Important to get family time in though so poker usually comes in the morning or evening when the kids are in bed or perhaps on a lazy Saturday/Sunday afternoon.

Trying to go from 2 tabling to 4 tabling at the moment though so hopefully will cut the length of the sessions down and be a little fresher when I do play. I also need to make some time for a little more exercise now too.
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05-31-2012 , 07:53 PM
Song of the day for you. You're welcome my minnions....

Spoiler:
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05-31-2012 , 10:50 PM
Was crushing these short little PokerRoom lunch time sessions for a while but it's been break even at best for the past few weeks.

Doesn't help of course when you lose a stack and a half in 2 hands like I have just now.

23 in BB...board A495....all in on turn v 59. Turn 5.

QT raise pre SB v BB (half stack)....all in on T6x flop v Q6. Turn 6, River 6.

Thanks for coming.
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06-01-2012 , 02:24 AM
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QT raise pre SB v BB (half stack)....all in on T6x flop v Q6. Turn 6, River 6.[/QUOTE]

Rivering quads is a bit of an over-kill slap in the face as well!
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06-01-2012 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk23
Do the poker study at work (read, watch vids etc) - just like now.
Haha spot on.

Great work on the fun run challenge, hope it goes well. u setting yourself any kind of time goals or just looking to get round in decent shape?
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06-01-2012 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mentatat
Rivering quads is a bit of an over-kill slap in the face as well!
He knew what he was doing. Had 2 outs and hit them both.
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06-01-2012 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerGooner1
Great work on the fun run challenge, hope it goes well. u setting yourself any kind of time goals or just looking to get round in decent shape?

Thanks mate. Looking forward to it - kind of.

Haven't really thought of a time goal as I have no base to compare against. I always crushed the cross countrys in high school and was always leading the pack in football training running drills. I've always been a good runner but never really measured times.

As I train I might get a feel for what I'd like to achieve. One of my cricket team mates is a personal trainer and is in the process of doing me up a program which I expect to be quite brutal and and I doubt I'll be able to quite achieve in terms of also meeting family commitments (just got a new puppy today) and also squeezing in the poker.
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