Coming thick and fast. Im unfeasibly unlucky :/ someone weant to tell me I should be happy?

Am I just supposed to give up ?? I cant keep going on when this is happening so much, my bank roll will just evaporate. How many buyins am i supposed to pack for 10nl again?

Serious?

Something wrong with the world when i can take so many beats in one session.

Am I just supposed to fold to the river bet ?

And that my friends is 10nl. MUCH more difficult than 5nl because I run bad.

This thread is utterly rubbish. Nothing of any interest in it. very disappointed with myself think I might start a new one "the non whinging no HH of beats thread"

godlike poker skills






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@J7 hand, Yeah river should be a fold

@AK hand, Pretty standard, just c/f these and really hammer when you hit your A or K on flop, dont be discouraged when you miss flop it happens 80% of the time

@TheRest, Just unlucky, keep making good plays vbet like mad when your hitting your hands

Good Luck!!!

What was your thought process on this hand? Don't mean to come off duechy just curious, i don't think this play is +EV in the long run though

Well that was a MAMMOTH session. At one point as you know from above I was -$112, breaking into tiny little pieces and each of those tiny little pieces was on fire. I stuck at it though and managed to get back to -$41 which is +$71 over where I was. Again, I didnt change anything in my play, I just stopped getting beaten with the bad luck stick. Current stats are:

fpp: 913.42
vpp: 1260 (5000)
bonus: 2615/2720
roll: 909.53
hands: 9878

I think what I will do tomorrow, is watch videos and read ONLY in the morning until 2pm or maybe later even...4pm. And then hit the tables. I just seem to do better later in the day, dunno why. I mean, luck doesnt know what time it is, does it?

Im pretty pleased that I managed to keep my head together enoguh to play through this 11BI downswing. I can only imagine how hard it is for high stakes players losing hundreds of thousands of dollars of a long period of time despite playing great - like Tom Dwan vs Antonius in the Aussie Million invite HU match where he gets done for liek $600k after starting with the ebst hand and gettign sucked pretty much every time. What a guy he is. I want to be ICE, just like him instead of filling this thread with me ceying like a little girl.

One of my big goals in poker is to understand when a hand is interesting and actualyl worth consideration/discussion. Any thoughts from you guys on this would be welcome.

Let me go make a picture to stick in here of todays play...

here we go:



By the way, the ev is *just* over $0 so it just goes to show


More crazyness in about 5 hours time !

chad

@younguns87

Flat the SB raise vs some guy who has been open raising 22% from the SB with the intention of taking it away later on. I have a suited ace and position so I think calling is fine.

flop top pair + NFD so not going away for less than half pot bet

when he checks the turn he is saying he doesnt have much of anything. I bet for value and as a semi bluff. there are lots of worse hands that can call me, mostly Ax and worse flush draws/pairs.

When he check raises, I think he's full of ****. In a small sample size (30 hands) he has already c/r twice on the flop and twice on the turn His size is all wrong too. I wanted to shove right there but couldnt quite pull the trigger (while there was still a chance of the reassuring flush card or another 7 or ace coming in). I know that this is something I have to work on.

On the river I have to put in $5 to get $15, 3:1 which is an easy call since I only need to be ahead of him ~25% of the time to make a profit.

Your thoughts please?

If you think he's betting the river with air aswell calling the turn would be okay, otherwise shoving is good.

I think its very hard for him to not shove the river after putting half his stack in, and if he doesnt, I will 100% of the time as I think I'll be way ahead and he is forced to make the call because of the odds. One way or another once he c/r the turn - it's all going in the middle.

Preflop and flop are fine, I don't think I'm ever folding on this flop even of he pots it.

Turn: I see what your saying, bet size is really weird for him which kinda throws me off, I think the turn is jam or fold though as you suggested

River: if you call turn gotta call river as its a blank, but what's your play if like a non heart 10+ comes out? Gross spot.

Just an interesting hand and was wondering thought process behind it

I love this series. Don't be discouraged. Keep getting it in good + volume = $$$

It's definitely not a boring thread, so don't give up. I'm rooting for you! You're taking some brutal beats and running like a one-legged camel, but you sure seem to have the right mentality and mindset (which is more than a lot of players can say), so you're not in much danger of monkey tilting.

GL GL!

even if a non heart T+ comes out - I *have* to call since I have got most of my stack in already - and should have jammed the turn anyway. Is it really likely that he has ever played this way with some non-queen overcard? like a random ace and an ace comes on the river, possibly but *so* unlikely that it would have no effect on my calling.

@alphabetsoup - really appreciate it mate sticking to my plan today, reading loads of poker posts before getting on tonight/this afternoon. I am tired of reading beginners questions and goals and challenges now so Im moving onto the nl/pl thread where hands are discussed - that **** is golden.

re: g&c forum, I'm almost, but not quite yet getting to the point with the goals and challenges threads where I can spot the ones that are doomed to failure immediately. i think it might be fun to just post DOOMED or NOT DOOMED on each thread as it appears and see how many i get right "I are aggressive BRM so playung 50nl with my $238.43 roll, my goal is $45, 826 by the end of April." for instance would get a DOOMED post. Maybe a bit more subtle than that so I dont get banned or something there are a LOT of posts like this right? people make sensible suggestions but they are all wasted effort. LoL

In a bit! moff to troll some people

Ok. Have been reading 2+2 all day. Had a 45 minute nap before dinner too. A couple interesting things came up in this forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...-stakes-pl-nl/

and particularly these two threads:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...l-9ts-1113291/

and

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...p-nfd-1113165/

I really *really* need to understand why you should do what the replies say you should do as this is beyond my current poker knowledge and will probably make me a MUCH more profitable player.

Im going to go and hit the tables now, HAVE IT YOU MUGS!!

Chad

You are an active fella! Good luck sir!

Couple of hands I want to check on please:

Is this a good/correct fold?



Is this a good/correct fold?



probably should 3bet pre I think



Hard to fold river vs 38/8 guys overbet, looked blufy to me.

next hand - nleurgh...I think its OK



And now some beats (I think) guy is an idiot obv




Thats it for now

Of course Im already 1.5 BI down already but I dont think im playing badly. Couple more quick ones:



Guy showed Ah2h, note made



Im definitely not happy to shove here so I have to fold..I think!

@AJ Hand: I think its villain dependent, if SB is 3betting wide from the SB then I think its a call.

@KQ Hand: Again it's villain dependent, If his PFR is wide and CO calling range is wide, then I think we 3bet for value here, I think its a call otherwise unless villain is a nit.

@JJ: 3bet pre, then lead flop. Also as played your river call. The guy is a 38/8 so really passive, I don't think he's betting river that much with anything we beat. If he bets like 1/2 pot I think I call cause he never has a Q and would bluff his air a decnet amount of time

@AQ hand: 3bet pre again. You gotta get your value early on in hands and AQ is dominating his pfr range as well as MP calling range. (Assuming both have normal/slightly fishy stats)

The Concepts that you mentioned:

Bet/Folding River: What it is, is a percentage game. It's like if I bet X what % of time will he Call with hands I beat, with the idea that hes not gonna raise my bet more often than makes it profitable and with idea of, if he does raise its with a range that beats us.

That other hand I don't think I can explain, let someone else handle it.

if that doesn't make sense im sorry, somebody can probably say it better.

guy is 58/14/4.3 good fold?



And here? Same ****, different day. should i raise pre?

might as well get some run bad in the hands




and counting down, this is 2.5 BI's already - and I am pretty sure Ive done nothing wrong still. Am I just rubbish at poker and wasting my time? I dont think so. But surely I cant be *this* unlucky? Just bad and unaware??

I am *very* concerned with my 3betting pre flo. The problem I have is erading too much people saying Dont 3bet JJ pre - what if villain 4bets? So you see why Im stuck?