25s might be in the 75th percentile of hands (not 95th fyi), but that does not mean that he calls everything in between for reasons which you may learn in the article i mention.

Your playing to tight in BvB situations of your folding 52s.

the amount of people who i have a sample of over 1k hands on who are folding more than 60% BB v SB is unreal

today so far im running bad and playing worse. before when i was playing 100nlz (before my exams) if I had lost as much as I have today online, I would have been pretty down in the dumps about my game, and confidence would've taken a major hit. however today I am up beat and thinking positive.

this attitude change has almost certainly come from playing consistently 10x higher live, so this little dip in my roll is 'oh but a scratch'...!

hopefully this attitude shift will lead to good results soon, if not I may have just turned into one of those blind sighted live regs who shrug off themselves always losing as 'variance' when in fact they're just terrible!

will post interesting hands + daily graph after i finish up in a few hours

Any more live poker updates? Do you know of any dc games that run anywhere semi regularly? Reasonable/high stakes?

Graph of last 3 days of poker



[x] got crushed

My adventures back to online poker after playing live have not been much of a success as you can see.

This next graph shows somewhat of what's been going on I think. The 10k hands mark is where I stopped playing online to study for my exams. After that is random sessions + this week



Definitely a mixture of playing bad and running bad. I can't win a pot I play it's sick! Then due to run bad I start being too aggro and calling too light in spots vs regs who are too nitty for my call to ever be close to good poker.

Blue line in my eyes demonstrates the runbad in that I never have the winning hand at showdown, add in a few bad calls and there's a few buyins gone.

Red line keeps dropping off and correcting itself again, need to plug that leak again before it gets out of hand. Drop the number of tables down and think about every decision instead of just clicking buttons.

Sigh!

Just gone through the 100 biggest pots I played in the last 10k hands and in some of them I feel I could've done something differently, however many of them are just sickness in terms of coolers, and defo just variance kicking me whilst i'm down lol.

Preflop stuff, all standard



So that contributes to a fair bit of it, and the rest is a combo of calling too light and bluffing too much vs the wrong players


ANYHOW!


Off to Tenerife tomorrow for 2 weeks. I checked with stars and I can't play online in Spain even if I wanted too, so will relax and be poker free apart from reading a few books on the beach


gl guys and I hope you run better than I do! :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzCWGGG2gQc

Where you going in Tenerife mate? There's a casino in Las Americas that runs 2.5/5€. Only played it the once but it was v weak game, overyone over 50 & 6people limping every hand. Definitely worth looking up if you're close

I wouldn't think 67cc is a profitable peel from the SB in HH #2

Most people have higher winrates defending tight.

Being a good decision mathematically doesn't take into accounts skill level/concentration level/bunch of other stuff.

I remember the first blind defense vs min raise video i saw and the guy on rio was saying how his winrate is extremely good from the blinds. I checked mine and according to him i was leaking money yet i had 15bb more over a massive sample.

Bvb > people are nuts > be annoying just enough to get people to spew > profit. The massive lag defending should only be for the very very best players who play less tables.

clearly from this thread, OP is just an average player online and he should keep strong ranges untill he gets better.

Aren't the games in Spain like 10% rake with a cap of €40 or something absurd.

It was a piss up holiday a couple years back so I don't remember the rake, http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...nerife-539161/ says uncapped @ 2.5% though

b00m headshot!

my winrates in the blinds are pretty high tbh. I used to defend very tight in the BB but since i adapted and started to defend wide my winrate improved a lot

to each his own i guess. i agree that the better a player is the wider he can defend, as playing a wide range oop is challenging for sure

Though luck man, thats some pretty high variance graph. GL recovering!

Wow that's amazing. Can you share what you taught him to fix the red line?

Ey man. Sorry to see that downswing online, that always sucks.. Buy aren't you crushing live? Why even bother with the online games?

I think just generally improving at poker is his motivation for online, a ton of money to be made in live private games though

So today I sat down next to some Chinese kid you play with in Manchester, at the Venetian. Small world n that.

haha that's awesome what was his name?

David?
Dat?

Trying to think of 'kids' ik who are chinese haha, most of the chinese regs looks very young but some are quite a bit older than you'd think


and in response to the question about why play online? Story time i guess!


Last summer I'd been playing for 2-3 months probably 5-6 times a week and long sessions, when at the end of the summer two guys who were online players came in and sat at my table. They were young, and annoyingly good at the game, but also very arrogant and loud mouthing about strategy and kept doing not so subtle digs at lol live regs, of which at the time I would've classed myself as.

So following that I made a vow that when at uni I would just play online as surely if I can beat 1-1/1-2 playing for £400 stacks I can play online micros with some degree of success, these online young arrogant dicks were just that, dicks!


So uni restarted and I began taking online seriously. Loaded on $1k and took proper bank roll management for 25nl and jumped straight in. I got crushed. After losing 20+ buyins i eventually moved down to 10nl, but all that was doing was reducing how much i was burning. It got to the point where I decided to get help so I paid for some coaching sessions with Michael Dolle who is a coach here on 2p2 and also for Run It Once. He's mainly a FR guy but his package suited my needs down to the ground. Over the next 2-3 months I went from losing 10nl to breaking even at 25nl.

I then returned to live poker, and my god was everybody terrible. In my head I now saw why the young guys were being so arrogant about the live 'regs' they played so differently and 'fishy' in comparison to even a bad player online. After returning to online poker I then began working very hard on my game with my new coach ChillSkill, a 6max zoom specialist. He progressed my game and his motivation to learn and move up asap was addicting and caused me to work really hard. His way of looking at poker was very different from anything I'd seen before. Live and lowstakes had all been about exploitative play, where i felt lost a lot of the time. With a more game theoretical approach, finding what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' via combo counting felt more scientific as to what good poker should be. From that I could then see where I could make exploitative adjustments to higher EV lines through leaks that regs had.

I then returned to live poker...it almost didn't seem fair! I refer to RobFarha a lot in my posts, because a lot of how he portrays his thoughts echo how I feel at the table. He once put about how you know when to move up in live poker to the next stake is when you sit down and feel as if you are the best player, by a large margin. This rang true with the 1-1 game, and in some line ups the 1-2 and 2-5 games. I have played some tough 2-5 games in London, where there isn't much value, but whereas before graduating to online I would be phased by huge stacks and young faces, now I felt much more at ease, and confident in my own ability to play and even have small edges over certain regs. You may confuse this new found confidence for arrogance, and I assure you that's not the case. I've played in certain live games where I felt totally outclassed by the regs, and avoided them as much as possible. Knowing where you stand objectively is very important when such sums of money are involved, and I am not ashamed to say ' this guy is better than me ' whilst at the same time thinking ' for now....! '


I guess the short answer to your question is that the reason I play online is because I love the necessity to play your best to make money. I almost enjoy that it isn't easy, and that to be a winning player it requires hard work and dedication. Live poker is just a cash grind. Regs of varying degrees of skill all fighting over the fish's money. Online ( especially zoom ) you can't just pick on the fish, so you're forced into marginal spots, whereas in live to reduce variance you can just fold.


Hope that suitably answers your question!

Ye, I definitely see what you're saying. Online is just a way more demanding game where you have to capitalize on every small edge you can find. If I'm playing live I can basically be drunk and still be able to make good decisions, while online it's really important to be in tip-top shape and have complete focus on your tables.

What are your plans for the future as regards to live poker?

Sorry for your recent online losses OP, but good to see you're up for the challenge of online. How are the live regs different from online regs?

I was chatting with some 50nl Zoom reg the other day who says that 100nl Zoom is beatable for 5bb/100 because players are making lots of mistakes. Is there any chance someone could beat it for that much over a large sample?

Where in London were you playing that you found tough 2-5 ganes ?

nobody knows their winrate. EVER

xcept guys like nanonoko but they arent real.

So the reg I was talking to was talking rubbish? 5bb/100 at 100nl Zoom sounds close to impossible unless you're only ever playing at the most fishy times (even then, I doubt it's possible). He said 25nl Zoom was easily beatable for 10bb/100. You could make close to $30/hour at 25nl, not including VPP and FPP bonuses. Has anyone in the history of Zoom achieved that sort of hourly at 25nl over a significant sample? I think he is talking a load of crap to be honest, but hey, what do I know.

5bb at 100nl zoom is definitely achievable, people have higher winrates than that. 10bb/100 at 25nl would also be achievable but everyone would just move up if they could achieve that wr

its all about run good.

You can run good for 5 years+ most people dont know anything about variance. The few that do are those of us who've hit those "no TP every good, every 1 outer hits" 50+ bi under ev in a short time.

Happens a lot. theres been a few very well known midstakers with 5bb+ winrates for years and suddently they lost for many months in row, it kills your winrate.

look at Pokerstrategy russia, most of the graphs of the big winners are 50bi+ ABOVE ev. variance is sick. Most people would say these players are awful yet they are winning a ton.