$1000 in a week from $22 turbo sngs.
02-21-2011
, 07:32 PM
Sup guys, (Graph below) I've been playing the 11's for about a week and a half now. Had a rocky start as a fish, but watched vids nd improved nd made some decent $ for those levels. I decided it's time to move up to the 22's which i did today, and made $400 today!!! so I have to make $600 by the end of this week from 22's. I can 16 table but i find 6 tabling the optimum amount for me atm (dno y). I dno how many ill play a day cos sometimes im busy/don't feel like playing etc... so yea GL me and GL ALL.
NOTE - I don't have HEM unfortunately yet
so i can't post cool graphs, but I'll just post daily results and get a custom graph from sharkscope to show ya'll at the end of the week.
NOTE - I don't have HEM unfortunately yet
so i can't post cool graphs, but I'll just post daily results and get a custom graph from sharkscope to show ya'll at the end of the week.
02-21-2011
, 08:19 PM
02-22-2011
, 01:13 PM
Yea would be nice to keep movin up, hopefully we'll both be crushing soon.
Gl i'll keep following ur progress
Will post updates later.
02-22-2011
, 01:14 PM
02-22-2011
, 11:14 PM
02-23-2011
, 02:50 AM
02-23-2011
, 06:52 AM
If you're confident in your game... $500. 20 BI downswings are very standard as variance is a bitch, as are break even stretches. $500 is just to make sure you have support for that. GL
02-23-2011
, 06:31 PM
02-28-2011
, 04:33 AM
Not to burst your bubble my friend, but I don't believe anyone here understands variance around here. I believe your expectations are waaaay overboard.
For starters what kind of ROI are you expecting from each tourney? 10%, 20%? Let's say that it is a hefty 10% at the 6 max. That means you're making 2.20 per tourney. That means you need to play about 450+ tourneys to get there.
Just as an experiment, knowing that 6 max super turbos are subjected to more variance and less edge for a skilled, winning player, I put in 1000 at the $5 level (5% roi) and 1000 at the $10 level (completely breakeven, 0% level) just last week. End analysis? Lots of variance. Hell, I dropped $400 over 150 tourneys like it was nothing. (That's 40 buy-ins in a span of a 2.5 hours).
What's funny is that 1000 sngs may not even define your true roi, particularly if your edge is not that great ( ie less than 10% over the field over to begin with. I can guarantee that if you make a $1000 at 22 super max in a week (say over 300 tourneys), you can lose it just as fast the very next week. Or perhaps you'll think that you were good so that you will move up to the next level without really proving to yourself that you were a winner at the 22 level? It would only get harder as you move up, and as your roi dwindles, your variance ( and I mean towards the losing side) will become greater and greater.
Maybe I am a bit of a cynic but find me one player out there that has a 10% roi on these 6 max over 2000 tourneys. If there is any true indication of what can be accomplished, all you have to do is go look up sharkscope's leaderboards to see how the regs are doing. This year alone, no one's making 10% at the 6 max turbos. Otherwise, I'd be studying up on that player 24/7 and finding out what he has for breakfast, what he smokes, what car he drives etc. (Or even better if it's a she)
Maybe if you run good as you say, yes, you can earn $1000 in a week. I'd say if you were at 4% like the current sharkscope leaders at the $16~$35, then you can go ahead and play 1100 of these 22 6 max turbos to get there (not factoring in rakeback). Hell I couldn't even achieve 1% through my first 1000 at the $10 tb 6 max.
Every sng player has different experiences. Not to scare grinders away but it has been shown that you could be a winning player but not show a profit for over 2,000 or 3,000 sngs (Just look at some of the charts of the leaders' history) when your edge is that low (below 5%).
That's why we are grinders. Sorry, I just had to get my rant out as I saw that there was a lot of optimism (hint: unrealistic numbers) in these sng poker challenges.
For any true sng grinders out there, we all calculate our hourly wage (which is the most important).
(Average # of tables per hour) x (buy-in) x (roi + rakeback) = hourly wage
From there we can see if the tourney we're playing in is worth it. For myself, I might experiment a little more with the super 6 max, but I'm fairly confident that there are better games for your hourly wage.
My 2 cents. GL to you Koopaa.
For starters what kind of ROI are you expecting from each tourney? 10%, 20%? Let's say that it is a hefty 10% at the 6 max. That means you're making 2.20 per tourney. That means you need to play about 450+ tourneys to get there.
Just as an experiment, knowing that 6 max super turbos are subjected to more variance and less edge for a skilled, winning player, I put in 1000 at the $5 level (5% roi) and 1000 at the $10 level (completely breakeven, 0% level) just last week. End analysis? Lots of variance. Hell, I dropped $400 over 150 tourneys like it was nothing. (That's 40 buy-ins in a span of a 2.5 hours).
What's funny is that 1000 sngs may not even define your true roi, particularly if your edge is not that great ( ie less than 10% over the field over to begin with. I can guarantee that if you make a $1000 at 22 super max in a week (say over 300 tourneys), you can lose it just as fast the very next week. Or perhaps you'll think that you were good so that you will move up to the next level without really proving to yourself that you were a winner at the 22 level? It would only get harder as you move up, and as your roi dwindles, your variance ( and I mean towards the losing side) will become greater and greater.
Maybe I am a bit of a cynic but find me one player out there that has a 10% roi on these 6 max over 2000 tourneys. If there is any true indication of what can be accomplished, all you have to do is go look up sharkscope's leaderboards to see how the regs are doing. This year alone, no one's making 10% at the 6 max turbos. Otherwise, I'd be studying up on that player 24/7 and finding out what he has for breakfast, what he smokes, what car he drives etc. (Or even better if it's a she)
Maybe if you run good as you say, yes, you can earn $1000 in a week. I'd say if you were at 4% like the current sharkscope leaders at the $16~$35, then you can go ahead and play 1100 of these 22 6 max turbos to get there (not factoring in rakeback). Hell I couldn't even achieve 1% through my first 1000 at the $10 tb 6 max.
Every sng player has different experiences. Not to scare grinders away but it has been shown that you could be a winning player but not show a profit for over 2,000 or 3,000 sngs (Just look at some of the charts of the leaders' history) when your edge is that low (below 5%).
That's why we are grinders. Sorry, I just had to get my rant out as I saw that there was a lot of optimism (hint: unrealistic numbers) in these sng poker challenges.
For any true sng grinders out there, we all calculate our hourly wage (which is the most important).
(Average # of tables per hour) x (buy-in) x (roi + rakeback) = hourly wage
From there we can see if the tourney we're playing in is worth it. For myself, I might experiment a little more with the super 6 max, but I'm fairly confident that there are better games for your hourly wage.
My 2 cents. GL to you Koopaa.
02-28-2011
, 07:05 AM