I'd prefer to see a $500 to $20k challenge or something similar, and think that many would agree. Playing for pennies against braindead idiots when you are the best in the worldTM seems really boring for everyone involved. The concept of starting a poker bankroll from $100 is overall pretty dumb, since anyone with some kind of common sense would work together atleast like a grand to start grinding with instead of smashing your head against the wall at 2NL. Just a waste of time to grind at the smallest stakes, from a learning, entertainment and profitability standpoint.

What are you talking about, I started with a free 60$ promo long ago and lots of people I know did the same

Yep. I did the same. I went once a month to the gas station for a $100 card to deposit with on Pacific Poker way back in 2004 and then one time I ran it up and no longer had to go back.

What is your twitch details id like to watch sometime.

This, people are not claiming 25NL regs are bum hunting Doug and that they are unbeatable. But playing a reg filled 2NL table of 25NL regs is going to be unbeatable for anybody without some run good due to rake. Some are saying 10bb/100 in rake at 2NL but it's closer to 15+Bb/100. It makes it especially hard with Dougs looser style which makes rake a much larger factor in cash games and probably why he is seeing more succes at SnGs. Would be awesome if Doug shared his thoughts on how rake is effecting the challenge. If he has already which video?

He has not put in any sample at micro cash so its pointless talking about how much he should be beating them.

Just because something works it doesn't automaticly mean that it is the optimal way. Go get an actual job where your wage isn't a 10BB/100 winrate at 2NL, and come back when its actually more profitable to grind.

Why are you so mad? If people want to grind from NL2 let them do that. If you failed doesn't mean everybody else will allso. And why would you put a grand on the line when starting to learn poker?

yeah when you dont have much money 1000$ feels like a lot of money to put on the line, I know back then it felt like way too much, hell I was even uncomfortable at the thought of losing over 100$, so starting off of a free 60$ promotion was the best way. Not to mention you are learning, if you don't know much about poker and suddenly jump into the NL25 pool odds are you are going to be a losing player

This thread quickly took a comic turn - could drag oot longer than the Durrr challenge...

Some mature ppl itt, back in 2004 i felt like a grinder when I opted to play 2/4 instead of 5/10 with a 1600 roll

If the goal of this challenge is to keep viewers entertained and grind a $10k roll quickly there is just no reason to not be using a very aggressive bankroll management strategy.

Viewers will enjoy the big swings and the significance of each game along the way, whilst getting more games in at higher stakes (more EV).

Fact is freerolls exist and good players will *never hit a 50+ downswing at $1 games so he's *never going to go broke.

Doug I dont think you should let the haters decide your strategy. More swings = more banter = more viewers, and you'll end up with the $10k in the end to disprove the nei-sayers anyway.

I reckon using 10% SNGs, 2-5% MTTs and hitting the $1 games only when you're down to $50 should do the trick.

Good luck, f*** the haters, and ship me $10 for the advice when you get your $10k

p.s. bump my 'beat Polk to $10k' thread for run-good



* Ridiculously unlikely

I think you should consider moving outside US for a couple of weeks and play in stars/888 and then move your increased roll back to wsop

Playing zoom up to nl50, could save you months of painfull and tedious grinding which probably will end up in dropping the challenge.

edit. just over a year ago it took apo 20 days to run 100 to over 3k playing zoom plo in stars before he decided to drop the challenge
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...lenge-1522716/

He allready mentioned several times aint leaving home that he likes to play micros. Even though at 888 he would be halfway to 10k allready.

One new addition to improving my game that i've learned is to yell "hold" at the screen and call out the cards I need when all in. If it works for the best....

yes americans are so pro he should play some of those loose passive soviet fish on stars that live of a 2$/h great idea.

fyp as he's said this numerous times.

This.

what's the rake at 2nl ? (in bb's?) ??

+1


Please keep it up. Enjoying following this....

I just read back a few pages.....was $550 the high point thus far w/the Bankroll ?

What wcoops are you playing in Doug?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQLha0m9FA

You made me chock on my food.
He played against 'brainless idiots' but failed.
He's the 'best in the world' but failed. (i don't know where you got that part from LOL.)
**** is funny.

Actually, it's very simply to deduce where he got that from. If you're going to troll this thread, you're going to have to pick up your game.

First of all, you need to figure out what TM means.

Secondly, you need to learn how it can be used sarcastically to express irony, as ChanY did.

Third, you need to increase your IQ a few points so that you can pick up these subtle digs and learn when another poster is expressing the same thoughts as you are trying to express. (But doing it in a more sophisticated, intelligent manner.)

Now once you've processed all of that, you can come back to this thread and attempt to troll Doug without making such a fool of yourself.

Frankly, I have my doubts as to whether you can accomplish that goal.

doug's been streaming for over 12 hours now what a day

Sorry to thread jack, but I like this idea. I'd like to hear more about your recommendation of an aggressive bankroll management strategy. Please, shoot me PM with details on grinding a $1-2k roll. Thanks...