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10-15-2021 , 01:24 PM
Preflop: Reg (new to the table) open CO $20 off 1.5k~. Hero 3b $60 A 10 off $1100~ BTN. Folds to V, who calls.

($125) Flop: K 9 5. V checks. Hero $40. V calls.

($205) Turn: K 9 5 Q. Check. Hero $150. V calls.

($505) River: K 9 5 Q 4. V checks. Hero $450.

Vegas 2/5+ live reg pool seems to overfold v triple compared to optimal so will be bluffing appropriately in this spot at the very least read-less.

will post a sim for lolz later for those who find that interesting

can also post a node locked sim for the thread

get a ballpark for how many chips we’re winning/losing in a live environment v different regs

thoughts welcome
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10-15-2021 , 01:36 PM
I would jam the river.

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10-15-2021 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Preflop: Reg (new to the table) open CO $20 off 1.5k~. Hero 3b $60 A 10 off $1100~ BTN. Folds to V, who calls.

($125) Flop: K 9 5. V checks. Hero $40. V calls.

($205) Turn: K 9 5 Q. Check. Hero $150. V calls.

($505) River: K 9 5 Q 4. V checks. Hero $450.

Vegas 2/5+ live reg pool seems to overfold v triple compared to optimal so will be bluffing appropriately in this spot at the very least read-less.

will post a sim for lolz later for those who find that interesting

can also post a node locked sim for the thread

get a ballpark for how many chips we’re winning/losing in a live environment v different regs

thoughts welcome
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10-15-2021 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
I won’t be posting my results for the trip in here obv
I think I've seen a few such statements in here but missed any explanation as to why. Do whatever you're most comfortable with of course but what's the rationale for not posting results?
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10-15-2021 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by karamazonk
I think I've seen a few such statements in here but missed any explanation as to why. Do whatever you're most comfortable with of course but what's the rationale for not posting results?

The rationale is I do whatever I’m most comfortable with unapologetically
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10-15-2021 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
I would jam the river.

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10-15-2021 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Mclovin is probably smarter than all of us fwiw

so v unlikely he’ll say something super dumb


I appreciate the good posting as well as everyone understanding

Also somehow this is one of the most cordial threads that I am subscribed to on this site which is absolutely mind blowing if you ask me lol

tyvm everyone

my best way to repay the thread will be to continue posting actively if I have the good fortune of becoming an endboss down the road


Thanks for the compliment and thanks for continuing and planning on continuing posting in your (best on all of 2p2) PG&C thread!
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10-15-2021 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin


Thanks for the compliment and thanks for continuing and planning on continuing posting in your (best on all of 2p2) PG&C thread!
It's PB&G now you damn noob!

Also, everybody knows Paisting's thread (Biggest loser in online poker history...) is the best on this subforum.
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10-15-2021 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
It's PB&G now you damn noob!

Also, everybody knows Paisting's thread (Biggest loser in online poker history...) is the best on this subforum.
"damn noob"!? I prefer to keep it Old School.

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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree then!
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10-17-2021 , 12:10 AM
See this post for reference
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2226

Hero turn strat in optimal
https://gyazo.com/04957d6990135edc88ad24d30aeaba09

V response
https://gyazo.com/3dab7f121eed4c1ff9d75b078d5e95ed

Hero river strat AP
https://gyazo.com/d77355c1726009b3231748a676a33ad4

V response
https://gyazo.com/45ba203414f350b5471916dd88972019









V tank call K J but happy with this one.

our blockers are quite good

I don’t think population clicking call with Qx, 9x in their shoes often versus this sizing

can jam as well

Last edited by RoadtoPro; 10-17-2021 at 12:34 AM. Reason: ill just add pics
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10-17-2021 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin


Thanks for the compliment and thanks for continuing and planning on continuing posting in your (best on all of 2p2) PG&C thread!
tyvm sir means a lot

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10-17-2021 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
tyvm sir means a lot

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10-17-2021 , 06:39 PM
its nice to be home but i need to get better at traveling and playing + taking care of myself on the grind

i can’t resist a good challenge anyways

so I booked another trip to Vegas in December as well as November and will probably go more often than that

seems like good training for down the road for when high upside opportunities (livestreams/high rollers etc) require me to optimize my grind away from home

makes sense to get a lot of reps in now and plug that leak imo despite how much i hate that city

maybe go to Texas instead should be able to go wherever for however long

i try my best to always be at least five steps ahead even though I don’t need to, that is important to me
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10-17-2021 , 07:00 PM
I know it's pretty hard to have a "set schedule" while playing poker when traveling. But it helps to have some type of routine that you want to follow regarding eating, taking breaks, and sleep.

Definitely do your best to incorporate some things you do at home while on the road. For example the warm up and cool down before and after sessions. It is critically important to listen to your body. Don't play when terribly tired, as you know "it's all one long session". Being very hungry makes a person quite naturally more impulsive, which can be utterly detrimental when playing poker.

After all with anything, practice makes perfect. So I'm happy to read you're doing exactly that by booking more trips!

You do have plenty of experience already built into you with competing + traveling from all your chess tournaments, so try to draw back on those experiences and incorporate what you can from them.
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10-17-2021 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
its nice to be home but i need to get better at traveling and playing + taking care of myself on the grind

i can’t resist a good challenge anyways

so I booked another trip to Vegas in December as well as November and will probably go more often than that
Aren't you interested in different places/more international travelling for live poker? I can understand your hate for Vegas as I feel similarly
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but am looking to optimize my Vegas experience next time around with hikes in the Grand Canyon and experience it with my gf as to make it more of a vacation
, but there are wonderful cities where grinding/taking a few days to visit afterwards and dip into the culture are enticing. Like Barcelona, Prague, Montreal and down the road, when they are more tourist-friendly again, Melbourne, the likes of Punta del Este and Rio in South America. Anyhow, even if I feel that you want to immerse yourself completely into the grind and hence want to stick to Vegas, don't miss out on the travel opportunities that live poker offer friend ; GL

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10-18-2021 , 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
I know it's pretty hard to have a "set schedule" while playing poker when traveling. But it helps to have some type of routine that you want to follow regarding eating, taking breaks, and sleep.

Definitely do your best to incorporate some things you do at home while on the road. For example the warm up and cool down before and after sessions. It is critically important to listen to your body. Don't play when terribly tired, as you know "it's all one long session". Being very hungry makes a person quite naturally more impulsive, which can be utterly detrimental when playing poker.

After all with anything, practice makes perfect. So I'm happy to read you're doing exactly that by booking more trips!

You do have plenty of experience already built into you with competing + traveling from all your chess tournaments, so try to draw back on those experiences and incorporate what you can from them.
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Aren't you interested in different places/more international travelling for live poker? I can understand your hate for Vegas as I feel similarly
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but am looking to optimize my Vegas experience next time around with hikes in the Grand Canyon and experience it with my gf as to make it more of a vacation
, but there are wonderful cities where grinding/taking a few days to visit afterwards and dip into the culture are enticing. Like Barcelona, Prague, Montreal and down the road, when they are more tourist-friendly again, Melbourne, the likes of Punta del Este and Rio in South America. Anyhow, even if I feel that you want to immerse yourself completely into the grind and hence want to stick to Vegas, don't miss out on the travel opportunities that live poker offer friend ; GL
ty for sharing your thoughts

these are both great posts and got me thinking.

I’ll get back to this later after some quality reflection.

i don’t see what’s stopping me from going to Barcelona etc for a while solo so maybe that’s in the cards

might as well do it now

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10-18-2021 , 06:51 AM
Barcelona is amazing. I didn’t play poker when I visited but you’ll have a blast.

Part of being a poker player is allowing yourself the flexibility to travel the world while you play. Even if you don’t play live, you can get your hands in online.


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10-18-2021 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
Barcelona is amazing. I didn’t play poker when I visited but you’ll have a blast.

Part of being a poker player is allowing yourself the flexibility to travel the world while you play. Even if you don’t play live, you can get your hands in online.
Yup, this. Barcelona would be my #1 choice for city to live in
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if there was no other outside factors influencing my choice but language, culture, beach, urban architecture, elite location/the proximity of having a poker hub and meditation centre and access to myriads of other interesting cities/countries to visit
, Prague is equally as enticing (for visiting) and well worth the stop for EPT this upcoming December :

https://somuchpoker.com/ept-prague-2021-schedule/

Idem for Aussie Millions and Melbourne, when and if they eventually come back

I wouldn't really recommend Asia for poker (and less as an MTT stop), but they are nonetheless live tournament options if you wanted to visit as well... Anyhow, happy that you are contemplating this as an alternative to Vegas friend, as it is exponentially more of an experience and +Ev life experience to travel internationally, believe me
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10-18-2021 , 03:51 PM
" It is for want of self-culture that the superstition of Travelling, whose idols are Italy, England, Egypt, retains its fascination for all educated Americans. They who made England, Italy, or Greece venerable in the imagination did so by sticking fast where they were, like an axis of the earth. In manly hours, we feel that duty is our place. The soul is no traveller; the wise man stays at home, and when his necessities, his duties, on any occasion call him from his house, or into foreign lands, he is at home still, and shall make men sensible by the expression of his countenance, that he goes the missionary of wisdom and virtue, and visits cities and men like a sovereign, and not like an interloper or a valet.

I have no churlish objection to the circumnavigation of the globe, for the purposes of art, of study, and benevolence, so that the man is first domesticated, or does not go abroad with the hope of finding somewhat greater than he knows. He who travels to be amused, or to get somewhat which he does not carry, travels away from himself, and grows old even in youth among old things. In Thebes, in Palmyra, his will and mind have become old and dilapidated as they. He carries ruins to ruins.

Travelling is a fool's paradise. Our first journeys discover to us the indifference of places. At home I dream that at Naples, at Rome, I can be intoxicated with beauty, and lose my sadness. I pack my trunk, embrace my friends, embark on the sea, and at last wake up in Naples, and there beside me is the stern fact, the sad self, unrelenting, identical, that I fled from. The Vatican, and the palaces I seek. But I am not intoxicated though I affect to be intoxicated with sights and suggestions. My giant goes with me wherever I go." -Emerson

https://emersoncentral.com/texts/ess...self-reliance/

Self-reliance is an essay well worth reading. It's like the original self help book. Travelling is fun and I enjoy going to new places and seeing new sights.
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10-18-2021 , 06:38 PM
Traveling as a pure "just seeing the sights" tourist is a lot different than spending time in a country, getting to better know the local culture and meeting a cross section of locals.

Traveling as a poker player should give you a lot more local insight (and personal growth) than traveling as part of a rich world touring group.

In my real world job I was lucky enough to work in around 40 countries, most of them not on the main tourist list. But I did get to play poker in a few of them and it was always enlightening. For example I studied Spanish in school but I really started to "get it" playing in a stud game in Quito Ecuador a couple of times a week when I was working there. Also the first and last time I won a million in one game - but of course it was Sucres not dollars so more like 1k US at the time

I think checking out Barcelona would be a good idea - and there are many other options.
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10-18-2021 , 07:07 PM
barcelona is a great place so long as you aren't on the streets late at night

a ton of mugging and pickpocketing happens there - someone stole my $100 travel phone from me at a tech conference so I wasn't too concerned about it but then they somehow figured out a way to get thousands of dollars on charges on it - only found out when i went to get sim replaced when i returned and they said I needed to pay like 6k in charges in order to do that, guess who switched carriers that day
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10-20-2021 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by miamicheats
Barcelona is amazing. I didn’t play poker when I visited but you’ll have a blast.

Part of being a poker player is allowing yourself the flexibility to travel the world while you play. Even if you don’t play live, you can get your hands in online.


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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
Yup, this. Barcelona would be my #1 choice for city to live in
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if there was no other outside factors influencing my choice but language, culture, beach, urban architecture, elite location/the proximity of having a poker hub and meditation centre and access to myriads of other interesting cities/countries to visit
, Prague is equally as enticing (for visiting) and well worth the stop for EPT this upcoming December :

https://somuchpoker.com/ept-prague-2021-schedule/

Idem for Aussie Millions and Melbourne, when and if they eventually come back

I wouldn't really recommend Asia for poker (and less as an MTT stop), but they are nonetheless live tournament options if you wanted to visit as well... Anyhow, happy that you are contemplating this as an alternative to Vegas friend, as it is exponentially more of an experience and +Ev life experience to travel internationally, believe me
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
" It is for want of self-culture that the superstition of Travelling, whose idols are Italy, England, Egypt, retains its fascination for all educated Americans. They who made England, Italy, or Greece venerable in the imagination did so by sticking fast where they were, like an axis of the earth. In manly hours, we feel that duty is our place. The soul is no traveller; the wise man stays at home, and when his necessities, his duties, on any occasion call him from his house, or into foreign lands, he is at home still, and shall make men sensible by the expression of his countenance, that he goes the missionary of wisdom and virtue, and visits cities and men like a sovereign, and not like an interloper or a valet.

I have no churlish objection to the circumnavigation of the globe, for the purposes of art, of study, and benevolence, so that the man is first domesticated, or does not go abroad with the hope of finding somewhat greater than he knows. He who travels to be amused, or to get somewhat which he does not carry, travels away from himself, and grows old even in youth among old things. In Thebes, in Palmyra, his will and mind have become old and dilapidated as they. He carries ruins to ruins.

Travelling is a fool's paradise. Our first journeys discover to us the indifference of places. At home I dream that at Naples, at Rome, I can be intoxicated with beauty, and lose my sadness. I pack my trunk, embrace my friends, embark on the sea, and at last wake up in Naples, and there beside me is the stern fact, the sad self, unrelenting, identical, that I fled from. The Vatican, and the palaces I seek. But I am not intoxicated though I affect to be intoxicated with sights and suggestions. My giant goes with me wherever I go." -Emerson

https://emersoncentral.com/texts/ess...self-reliance/

Self-reliance is an essay well worth reading. It's like the original self help book. Travelling is fun and I enjoy going to new places and seeing new sights.
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Originally Posted by jrr63
Traveling as a pure "just seeing the sights" tourist is a lot different than spending time in a country, getting to better know the local culture and meeting a cross section of locals.

Traveling as a poker player should give you a lot more local insight (and personal growth) than traveling as part of a rich world touring group.

In my real world job I was lucky enough to work in around 40 countries, most of them not on the main tourist list. But I did get to play poker in a few of them and it was always enlightening. For example I studied Spanish in school but I really started to "get it" playing in a stud game in Quito Ecuador a couple of times a week when I was working there. Also the first and last time I won a million in one game - but of course it was Sucres not dollars so more like 1k US at the time

I think checking out Barcelona would be a good idea - and there are many other options.
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Originally Posted by rickroll
barcelona is a great place so long as you aren't on the streets late at night

a ton of mugging and pickpocketing happens there - someone stole my $100 travel phone from me at a tech conference so I wasn't too concerned about it but then they somehow figured out a way to get thousands of dollars on charges on it - only found out when i went to get sim replaced when i returned and they said I needed to pay like 6k in charges in order to do that, guess who switched carriers that day
This was all fantastic insight, thanks everyone.

read it all a few times

now is ideal wrt timing but personally i think it makes to be a huge winner @ 5/10+ anywhere before i travel internationally/have fun

it may take six months to be better than the upper echelon (most notably european/asian) pros who have been grinding mid stakes forever- it may take three years. not sure

as for domestic travel, there should be a fair bit of that in 2022

either way im just grateful to have the opportunity to start traveling so we will see.

for the rest of the year, vegas will probably be the lone destination, and im going to just post online hands mostly when im at home.

being in vegas for a while took me out of my bubble, which is really bad. progress slows down way too dramatically.

As for grinding- my goal is now 75+ hours a week for the rest of the year. This includes any pre/mid/post session routines (but not studying) as well as tourneys.

Not a fan of profit goals in general, but a nice 25k+ uptick to close out the year would be solid. seems reasonable even with a few death sessions and busted tourneys along the way

talk soon

and also

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10-22-2021 , 07:31 PM


dwan & ivey playing out here today & tomorrow i believe

$200/400 $100K min
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10-22-2021 , 09:40 PM
I know that dealer and know most of those players. Sick line-up I'd totally play that.

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10-23-2021 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SABR42
I know that dealer and know most of those players. Sick line-up I'd totally play that.

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that’s awesome dude

any fun stories?

GA is a legend and I always love it when a pro has significant capital earned through poker skill + is the most cerebral/intelligent etc person at a high stakes poker table that occasionally has billionaires

small rant but I feel as if a lot of whales in LA think they’re doing better in life or whatever out here than the pros and it’s very transparent given the entitlement in their behavior

I can’t speak for my peers but I certainly do not think I will be doing worse in life when I get old like these whales with lucrative careers.

good to have role models like Garrett and Tom in their thirties with eight figure bankrolls from cards

the average boomer will laugh at you if you say you want to make eight figures overtime from cards and it shouldn’t be that way

edit: it’s 6:30 am and I played fourteen hours of poker yesterday (including some live) not sure if I articulated that correctly

I just want people to be kinder to each other and the dealer etc at the tables here in LA



I also don’t like when whales expect preferential treatment etc

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no I’m not laughing at ur stupid joke man

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