99 seems like a turn fold without a

88 seems like a flop fold facing a half pot donkbet by UTG multiway in 3bet pot. Villan has 2 overs to your pair almost 100% of the time (when bluffing) and your hand rarely improves.

H1: Fold turn
H2: Fold turn
H3: Fold pre to 3bet
H4: Raise flop/Value bet river.

hand 2 should be 4bet or fold surely, can't see how cold calling a 3bet out of position is ever a good idea there

i think UTG vs CO with 99 we want to fold turn at fairly high frequency, calling a little and folding mostly makes most sense, then river is sort of the same I assume, 99 doesnt block the obvious bluffs so meh, depending on villain I could go from never clicking call to always clicking call

AK I would never cold call, it plays pretty badly multiway, just cold 4bet and fold to CO’s jam and call vs BTN’s jam or you could also just straight 4bet ship, both options prob pretty close in EV

88 I think we need to defend some pre but not always, fold to flop cbet though, this is too wide a peel, just looked at the HH more closely and as played I think id start bluffing turn and jam brick river, check back diamond river, bet 1/4 turn

44 id bet pretty small vs a fish, like 1/5 pot to induce random spazz jam with 1pair type holdings or airball, I’d jam vs a reg

HH2 your notes don't support finding a fold with tptk.

RTP someone in the uNL section mentioned that you probably call way too much postflop in general and I agree.

Pay attention to bet sizes and where in your range you are. If someone bets 1/2 pot or more, get into the habit of thinking of all the better hands you have in the same exact spot. If it seems somewhat close and you can think of a ton of hands that are better continues, just fold.

I think this might be more of a turn/river problem for you, but might be some flop spots aswell. Usually a big difference in continuing range facing 1/3, 1/2, 2/3. Just nit it up if you face a big bet and your range consists of a bunch of better continues.

Thanks for the feedback ShipNickle, SimpleRick, Bloobird, Xenoblade, and DeadMoneyWalking. I appreciate it guys.

Yeah, I think all the hands were misplayed. They're not really the best reflection of my play, but looking forward to implementing those suggestions and avoiding some of these mistakes next time hopefully.

I think my "soul reading skills" are getting better though.

Here are the results, if anyone's interested...


HH1: I click call after a max tank and scoop vs. KcQh. (+$103)

HH2: V has A10dd. (-$84)

HH3: V has Ah8c (+$48)

HH4: V has 98cc (+$56)

Yeah I agree, I definitely call too much.

Working on the range visualization. Great suggestions.

KKs vs 97o in a 6-bet pot AI pre..

Haha I’m really proud of myself. Had at least 15-20 hands like this in August and felt like I played my A game a really large % of the time after stuff like this happened.

I think laughing these beats off has helped me grind a lot of hours and improve rapidly from beginner to less beginner. Also, I’ve been profitable/beat the rake from day one (iirc) which has helped. don’t really know what being in the hole feels like.








glgl everyone!

Linus watch out amirite

Hey everyone!

Maintaining ~50-60 hrs/a week on poker, based on OP criteria. I'd like to see that go up to 60-70+ w/ consistency. Results are good, but I'm never satisfied.


Random Hands from recently


HH1: 100NL QdQc on 7-4-9-A

According to the app, V currently has a 33-50 VPIP and is up 1-3 buyins. Notes on him from previous session: Loose passive. Cold called 3-bet w/ QQs and then called PFRs 100 BB shove.

Bombus (SB): $200
Hero (BB): $160
hammytime (UTG): $135
MurrMan52 (MP): $220
MIllerTime (CO): $190
Stryder (BTN): $235

UTG limps. MP raises $3. Folds to hero, who 3-bets $11 with QdQc. MP calls.

Flop ($25.50): 9d-7s-4h. I c-bet $8. V calls.

Turn ($41.50): 9d-7s-4h-Ad. I check. V bets $20.75. Hero?



HH2: 60NL AhQs in a weird spot pre-flop

No info. on SB who’s new to the table.

According to the app, MP currently has a 33-50% VPIP and a PFR > 25. 3-bet me back to back hands earlier in the session w/out showdown.

Stackindimes (SB): $11
Wildberry20 (BB): $35
Hero (UTG): $120
Naranjito (MP): $105
Kv bloodless (CO): $120
Syndrome (BTN): $105

I RFI $1.80 UTG w/ AhQs. MP 3-bets $5.50. SB shoves $11. BB folds. Hero?

What range are you continuing with here and is it strictly through 5-betting? Can we ever 5-bet/fold at this stack depth?

I don't know MP's 3-betting %, but I have reason to believe he's getting OOL here at a med/high freq.



HH3: 60NL QdQc facing 4-bet UTG vs. BB

According to the app, Main V currently has a 33-50% VPIP and PFR >25. Notes on him: 3-bet me back to back hands w/out showdown.

According to the app, MP has a 20-32% VPIP and PFR >15. No notes on him.

Wildberry20 (SB): $25
Hero (BB): $125
Naranjito (UTG): $90
Kv bloodless (MP): $130
Syndrome (CO): $185
Stackindimes (BTN): $25

UTG raises $1.80. MP cold calls $1.80. Folds to hero, who 3-bets $7.50 BB. UTG 4-bets AhAd $21.80. MP folds. Hero?

Wondering how you guys would play this spot 100 BBs deep or 200BBs deep as well.



HH4: 100NL AcQs multi-way vs. aggro weaker player OOP

According to the app, Main V currently has a >50% VPIP and is running “normal”. Notes on him: Aggro and attacks weakness often. Gets OOL but not sure at what freq.

According to the app, MP currently has a 20-32 VPIP and a PFR < 15, and is also running “normal”. Tight Passive.

Follld (SB): $335
scora (BB): $150
tinguspingus (UTG): $150
ABit2Easy (MP): $135
Hero (CO): $100
MollyBloom (BTN): $90

MP open limps $1. I raise $5 with AcQs CO. BTN cold calls $5. MP calls as well.

Flop ($16.50): As-5h-3d. MP cheks. I check (?). BTN bets $8.25. MP folds. I call.

Turn ($33.00): As-5h-3d-Js. I check. V bets $33.00. I call (?).

River ($99.00): As-5h-3d-Js-9c. Hero?

H1 I think we can re-iso slightly larger here, I could see maybe sizing down to get the UTG fish to come along but he still has a somewhat uncapped range depending on how he's constructing his limping range UTG. OTF I wouldn't cbet QQ at 100% freq', we maybe have 99 here at some freq' as we don't really want tod envelop face up cc ranges in BB but MP can definitely be iso'ing as wide as 44+ plus all SC's and our range here should be somewhat delineated. I wouldn't even mind simplifying flop for RC. in a NE solve I'd expect to see QQ bet around 25% OTT and TT/JJ ofc betting more frequently but overall cbet freq' should be fairly low to incentive RC. when line is B/C. on the turn he can definitely have myriad Ax vs 25% cbet aswell as SC's and middling PP's. I wouldn't hate a cbet on Ax as he doesn't have that many intuitive continues and you could even go like 33% imo. Just to fold our PP's/KQ etc. I think his range can be somewhat wider here vs the smaller sizing and at equilibrium you'd be surprised how often we can continue IP v SQZ or re-iso in this case. As played I think we have to peel one OTT and figure our rivers however it sucks we block KQ.

thanks for the feedback man

Hey everyone!

As I said in my last poast- maintaining ~50-60 hrs/a week on poker, based on OP criteria. I'd like to see that go up to 60-70+ w/ consistency. Results are good, but I'm never satisfied.


Random Hands from recently


HH1: 100NL 10h10c facing pressure on J-4-3-3

According to the app, V currently has a 20-32 VPIP and down 1-3 buyins. No notes on him.

Tinguspingus (SB): $140
ABit2Easy (BB): $130
Hero (UTG): $135
MollyBloom (MP): $175
Poker886489 (CO): $110
scora (BTN): $145

Hero opens $4 with 10h10c. This cuts the SPR which is no bueno but BB was a whale playing 80% of hands so I thought this was a good adjustment. SB 3-bets to $16. BB folds. I call.

Flop ($33.00): Js-4h-3h. SB bets $11. I call.

Turn ($55.00): Js-4h-3h-3s. SB bets $27. Hero?

There's $57~ back if I call here.


HH2: 100NL JcJd on 5-2-3-4 in 3-bet pot

According to the app, V currently has a 20-32 VPIP, a PFR<15, and is running “normal”. No notes on V.

Hero (SB): $105
tsteph999 (BB): $190
Du Muschi (UTG): $200
PGAPRO167 (MP): $145
kzo300 (CO): $25
menturm (BTN): $200

MP opens $4. I 3-bet $16 with JcJd. MP calls.

Flop ($33.00): 5d-2h-3c. I check. V checks.

Turn ($33.00): 5d-2h-3c-4d. I check. V bets $22. Hero?


HH3: 60NL TPGK multi-way facing aggression

According to the app, SB currently has a <50 VPIP and is up 1-3 buyins. No notes on V.

According to the app, UTG currently has a 20-32 VPIP, a PFR <15, and is down 1-3 buyins. No notes on V.

Poke_Her_Pro(SB): $65
1mashimaro (BB): $120
drippiechip (UTG): $85
tete_ct (MP): $175
Hero (CO): $120
Mikey bones (BTN): $95

UTG limps. Hero isos CO $3 w/ QhJs. SB cold calls $3. BB folds. UTG calls.

Flop ($9.60): Jh-6h-2s. SB donks $6.40. UTG calls. I call.

Turn ($28.80): Jh-6h-2s-9h. SB bets $21.60. UTG calls. Hero?


HH4: 100NL Top Set in a 3-bet pot

According to the app, V currently has a 20-32 VPIP, a PFR>15, and is down 1-3 buyins. No notes on V.

PokerWorm1 (SB): $220
DaChewbacca (BB): $100
Yvoloco (UTG): $110
IhaveNoIdea (MP): $195
LiveisLife (CO): $110
Hero (BTN): $100

UTG opens $2.50. Folds to hero. I 3-bet $9.00 BTN w/ KhKd. Folds to UTG, who calls.

Flop ($19.50): 7s-4d-3s. V checks. I bet $13. V calls.

Turn ($45.50): 7s-4d-3s-Kc. UTG checks. Hero?

Wondering how everyone approaches their sizing scheme in spots like this, exploitatively, where they turn (or flop gin) in 3-bet pots w/ a low SPR.

Hey RTP, nice thread man

A few things to unpack after reading through your thread over the past week, the first being that I do believe I owe you an apology : you have proven to show quite the maturity (lifewise) and sincerity itt, something that I failed to see/came across differently in 6bet's thread. I don't think I was overtly negative in your regards in the latter, but certainly dismissive, and for that, I apologize friend

On the choosing to play professionally over a lucrative and more secure career, I am one of the outliers that certainly owes A LOT to poker and this after a decade+ of playing professionally Of course, there is the soul sucking stuff that will eventually grind you hard, but while I would certainly discourage most aspirational pros from doing so, I do at times on the other side of the DGAF spectrum - sort of speak - and would encourage a few specific characters to take the leap

In this vein, I would suggest a couple of threads where the OP's leave aside a 6 digit career and both have been pros for roughly a decade now (seemingly without any regrets) : https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...81/?highlight=

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...ighlight=aesah

And lastly : I do not read any of the HHs that you post (nor other posters analysis) as I am mainly interested in your emotional journey in the game and the general progress of your success - which I am sure you will achieve Nevertheless, even if are gone the days of offering publicly (very good) strategic advice, feel free to send a PM and I would be happy to help you out with tough spots bro. You can do this, gl

I love and respect this a lot.

People really underestimate the power of saying stuff like this.

I just want to point out that while it's true that Aesah quit a high paying job to play poker for a living, it should be noted that he then quit poker after 4 or 5 years in order to pursue a lower paying job than poker. He has since returned to playing poker but the assertion that he has been a poker pro for the last decade is not true.

Respect 👍

Hey DubnJoy, thank you for the kind words! And no need to apologize man.

I'll be sure to check those threads out.

Congrats on the success my friend and please feel free to share your insights in here wrt emotional intelligence, handling the grind etc. anytime. Don't hesitate to call me out if you feel the need to as well. I can use all the help I can get, I have a long way to go. Lying to myself isn't going to help- developing high levels of self-awareness will likely be crucial.

Best of luck to you as well.

Hey everyone!

Maintaining 60 hrs+/a week on poker, based on OP criteria. Including any time spent on 2+2 because I don't want to be too obsessive about it. Most of the time is productive and efficient though.


Random Hands from recently


HH1: 100NL 9h9d on 5-4-3dd vs. weaker player

$120 effective. According to the app, V currently has a 50%+ VPIP, and is up 1-3 buyins. Notes on V: aggressive, spazz, weaker player.


OTTH

Pre-flop: Hero RFI UTG $3.50 with 9 9. Larger sizing because of aforementioned player. Folds around to V, who 3-bets to $6.50. Hero calls.

Flop ($13.50): 5 4 3. V checks, Hero bets $9, and V x/r $27. Hero?

Do you typically check this flop IP vs. this V?


HH2: 100NL AsQh Line Check vs. shortstack

$65 effective. According to the app, V currently has a 20-32% VPIP, PFR > 15%, and is running normal.


OTTH

Pre-flop: Hero RFI BTN $3 with A Q and V 3-bets BTN $9.50. Mostly always 4-betting this CO vs. BTN vs. someone with these stats 100 bbs effective, but at this stack depth decided to call.

Flop ($20.50): Q J 3. Hero checks, V bets $7.50. Hero calls.

Turn ($35.50): Q J 3 A. Hero checks. V bets $16.50. Hero calls.

River ($32.50): Q J 3 A J. Hero checks. V checks.

Thoughts on a turn CRAI turn?


HH3: 100NL QhQc IP on 10-9-8 in a 3-bet pot

$100 effective. According to the app, V currently has a 20-32% VPIP, a PFR>15, and is running normal. Notes on him: “x/r 872r vs. 33% c-bet w/ JJs and shoved Kx turn in a 3-bet pot.”


OTTH

Pre-flop: Hero RFI UTG $3 with Q Q and V 3-bets BB $11.00. I rolled a really low number, so decided to call this time.

Flop ($22.50): 10 9 8. V checks. Hero checks.

Turn ($22.50): 10 9 8 6. V checks again. Hero bets $9. V calls.

River ($40.50): 10 9 8 6 9. V checks. Hero bets $20.

Mostly wondering if I should start betting on the flop.


HH4: AhAs facing flop x/r multi-way

Hero has $100. CO has $95. SB has $50.

According to the app, CO currently has a <50% VPIP and is up 1-3 buyins. SB has a 20-32% VPIP and is running normal. No notes on either.


OTTH

Pre-flop: Hero RFI UTG $3 with A A and both V’s call.

Flop ($10): 9 8 8. V checks. SB checks. Hero bets $7. CO calls. SB x/r to $28 (with $18 left). Hero?

Normally, I'd just let this one go but SB’s shallow stack size and CO potentially being capped had me confused here.

Also, this seems like a good combo to x/flop multi-way. If you're checking here, what other overpairs are you checking?

Nice thread

If you want some unsolicited advice I can give you some non strategy advice that's heavily biased (advice for anybody looking to eventually become pro)

First above all else, don't do it. Reconsider taking some other type of career lol(not joking)

This is unsustainable. Maybe while you are learning the game/are excited about it you can pull these hours but for your own mental health's sake make sure you keep balance in your life! Also make sure you're doing at least 50% off table study/50%play (for now, until you reach a good winrate, then shift it to 25% study, 75% play)

There was some advice from Fried Meulders (mynameiskarl) talking about how humans crave linear progression and while poker has a learning progression, the results progression is extremely non-linear in the short term, only becoming linear in the LONG LONG term. Therefore, you need to find some other type of linear progression in your life (studying or improving a musical instrument, working out, some type of sport, learning a language etc) in order to feel more fulfilled. I think Fried is completely right; poker is very often unsatisfying and you need some external sources of satisfaction.

You mentioned in your OP that you plan on moving to live games like 5/5 LATB and I think that is a great idea if it's available (coronavirus notwithstanding). My own personal opinion is that it's much easier sanity/human/satisfaction wise to be a live poker pro than it is to be an online poker pro. I'll be honest, both types are not the optimal way to live without a good balance of other things in your life, but I personally found live much easier to not want to kill myself every day.

Also, making a good winrate live is infinitely easier than making a good winrate online. Winrates for a good reg at 2/5, 5/5 can be comparable to 4 tabling 200z as a good reg, and winrates at 5/10 as a good reg (especially if straddling) can be comparable to 4 tabling 500z as a good reg. The level of play between these game types is like comparing tic tac toe to chess. The only upside online play offers is slightly more freedom/ease of access (but not much) and a lower BR requirement. If BR is not an issue I see no reason to play online except to practice your game/study.

Anyways GL man

Hey Jarretman!

Thanks for posting this, what an honor man.

That’s a really interesting point about how humans crave linear progression. I’ll try to maintain balance throughout this journey.

I’d spend all my time on poker if I had it my way, but I agree that would be unsustainable. With everyone saying how hard it is to crush, and how a six figure career would be infinitely better in the long run- that motivates me a lot. I want to set a new standard.

Money doesn’t drive me, hence the career choice, but I would love to be happy and fulfilled. I see this as a challenge, with a clear end goal (Beating high stakes). I was lucky to develop appreciation of the value of money from a young age, and realize that you don’t really need very much of it to live a comfortable lifestyle.

Yeah, I’m using online regular speed tables to practice my game/study & get in multiples of the volume I’ll be getting live. I think it’s working out because I’m improving much faster this way than I was when I played in college. Starting 2021, I plan to primarily play live poker 40+ hours a week out here in the LA area.

BR could be an issue at the stakes I’ll be starting out at (5/5: 500-1000 cap, depending on where I’m playing) but not if I buy in for 100 BBs. Also, I earned my bankroll so I’m overprotective of it. Decided to live with my mom because COL is extra high here and I want to do this the right way by being fiscally conservative and keeping my monthly nut low.

Thanks again, Jarretman. Good luck with your channel!

Maybe you're a guy who simply loves the game of poker and you always will love the game of poker; it's about the game for you. That'd be great. In my 10 years around the poker I've yet to meet a single person like that.

I think it is profoundly important that you nail this plan to your "wall" (hypothetically of literally ) and stick to it come what may.

In this simple sentence Jarretman nails it IMHO.

Why?

Because it should be pretty clear by now that the quickest way to win (for a while) at online NLH is to embrace real time solvers, played on a separate device, and strum away at multiple keyboads, like some modern-day Rick Wakeman (OK, I'm old the clue is in the username.)

For the masses online NLH poker has become like enhancement abuse was in professional cycling a decade or so back...you can cheat or you can lose. Except no governing body is going to come along and clean up online poker...it will go the other way, with Governments/regulators progressively shutting it all down (and don't even get me started on unregulated apps ).

Online for training; live for the moniez. Plan A, B & C. If you can't make that work...take your talents elsewhere.

Good Luck

PS Just for the record, I've never use RTA or anything like, in fact I've never infringed any rules or ethics of the game, live or online. Not because I've a snowy white moral compass (far from it) but simply because I could never be assed. I don't need the money and I've got better things to do with my time.

Wait till the novelty of poker wears off and you will think differently. You're in the novelty phase right now. Everything seems new and exciting and you can't wait to discover more. Give it a couple of years and you won't be thinking the same.

Such a bitter post that doesn't add up any value to OP.