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01-23-2020 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveMTTDegen
This is gambling addiction at it's peak. I would focus on playing the hand correctly and whatever happens monetary wise will come.
LOL, I'm a total degen! Come play at my table and see how I will punt it all to you one buy in after another, like by raising a station with nut trips on a 67TT8 runout or l/rr AK to $175 and x/c one bet ott on 89Q5!

Or even worse, opening ATdd UTG and betting $35 once multiway OOP on A-2-5ss, getting called by a guy wearing a Patriots hat and hoodie from New England, x/c $40 turn Jc, and x/f river Qh for a mere $60 bet because he always has it since everyone from NE is a complete nutpeddler and utter sh*t for the game. Total degen!

Or even worse, calling a ss open with TT, calling a BTN squeeze to $80 after ss folded because I'm deeper against BTN and against her range of AK-AQs/JJ+ I have 40% equity and am getting the right price to call, and then x/f on A-4-7r to one $50 bet since my equity against her value range is 9%. Complete degen!

Or even worse, raising A8ss EP to iso BB station, bet K-8-4r, station calls, turn K, bet, call, river 3, bet, he folds what I can only assume was A-high or deuces. Degen!

After you stack me once I make all these terrible degen plays, you can befriend me and we can go to the pits where I will blow another couple thousand chasing my losses since every degen knows if it doesn't work out in the poker room with all those sharks I should try my luck downstairs where I'll only have to worry about the house's slight edge which is much lower than the huge edge the good players have over me in poker.

But seriously, wanting to try to break even for the month - the first month I am in the red in over 15 months - playing a LOWER stake than I am rolled for seems to be the complete opposite of what a degen does. It's what someone with good BR management does.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 01-23-2020 at 05:38 PM.
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01-23-2020 , 05:38 PM
lol he downswinging lol he mad
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01-23-2020 , 06:19 PM
in before poker puts OP deep into depression

you can see it brewing in the posts
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01-23-2020 , 06:21 PM
DT, nit it up and never give up.
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01-23-2020 , 10:00 PM
Bonsai! Nice new addition to the poker room. Serenity for people downswinging...?

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01-23-2020 , 10:03 PM
Call down DT you’re not down swinging yet you’re just have some regression to the mean
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01-23-2020 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
Call down DT you’re not down swinging yet you’re just have some regression to the mean
It feels like a downswing. I haven’t had a losing month since I was a total noob fish at 1/3 in November of 2018.... :/

Oh and I just GII pre at 1/3 for $750 with AA v. KK and he flopped a K. F.ck. UTG open UTG1 3! $36, I CO AA $120, fold, he just 5! Jams for $750. Smh. I had just gotten the double with AA in 4! pot against KcQc on 356hh I x to induce he jams $250 I snap and hold. Only to lose it all.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 01-23-2020 at 10:42 PM.
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01-23-2020 , 11:20 PM
It all feels bigger and longer b/c of your personal sample size. Try to look at your chart from a bigger perspective and a bad month once every 18 won’t seem so bad. It will feel like what it is: proper variance.

Don’t let good results result in entitlement tilt, it will cost you needless BB/hr and unnecessary real downswings
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01-23-2020 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
It all feels bigger and longer b/c of your personal sample size. Try to look at your chart from a bigger perspective and a bad month once every 18 won’t seem so bad. It will feel like what it is: proper variance.

Don’t let good results result in entitlement tilt, it will cost you needless BB/hr and unnecessary real downswings
Ok good point. “One long session.” Ohm....
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01-24-2020 , 12:57 AM
Well after that AA/KK debacle, lost with KK to QQ on Q-high flop. Lord.... stuck $600 today and I got here three hours ago. I feel like I’m gonna puke. So far the 1/3 plan is not working. At least I have a home game tomorrow. Maybe I’ll beat the micros.
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01-24-2020 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Well after that AA/KK debacle, lost with KK to QQ on Q-high flop. Lord.... stuck $600 today and I got here three hours ago. I feel like I’m gonna puke. So far the 1/3 plan is not working. At least I have a home game tomorrow. Maybe I’ll beat the micros.
Lol....noob.
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01-24-2020 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Fluffy68
Lol....noob.
I guess I should be thankful that people are 5! jamming 250bb pre with KK facing a cold 4! after a UTG open and utg1 3! I mean:

$12–>$36–>$120->$750. What da f:ck worse hand that 4! to $120 is calling $750 in a 1/3 bruh? And I just 4! AA to $105 and it went to showdown three minutes ago. Love the droolers.

To my credit rather than piss and moan I just tapped the table and reloaded. Even as the spazz who doubled me up with AA the first time said “nice hand” repeatedly to the victor who told the dealer “namaste” as he hugged her.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 01-24-2020 at 02:51 AM.
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01-24-2020 , 02:40 AM
What’s up with these new accounts showing up being pricks? Some National Harbor guys showing up to their first day of cyberbullying?
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01-24-2020 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Natamus
What’s up with these new accounts showing up being pricks? Some National Harbor guys showing up to their first day of cyberbullying?
They’ve (assuming it’s more than one person) been polluting this thread for a while now.

Three non-mutually exclusive theories:

2/5 bad regs who just can’t stand to see someone else succeed; but their love of seeing someone successful struggle is far greater than their underlying hatred. Schadenfreude. It’s deep and it’s real.

Alternative theory: 5/10 angry/jaded regs who don’t like that I play short and that I called one of them out once itt for being nasty to a rec player.

Final theory (hopefully unlikely): dealers who I’ve called out for various shenanigans or haven’t tipped well enough.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 01-24-2020 at 03:17 AM.
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01-24-2020 , 05:15 AM
Do those 2/5 bad regs hate all winning players or just you?

Do those 5/10 games have other hated short stackers or just you? Do you hit and run after you double up?

Are you verbally abusive to the dealers when they give you bad beats? How bad do you tip? Do you not tip for small pots?

I’ve played in over 20 rooms regularly and there is always that one guy (sometimes 2 or 3) who is widely hated and picked on. Most of the time, they bring it upon themselves with their bad attitudes and parasitic behavior. It has nothing to do with them being successful. They are usually only marginal winners, never crushers.
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01-24-2020 , 05:55 AM
Last buy in went bye-bye with AJo 3! pre against weak $10 open from guy who said he normally plays home games. We GII ott on KT5Q runout (he had KT and jammed over my raise) and he binks a T otr. It was time to go.
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01-24-2020 , 05:58 AM
Def. not verbally abusive to dealers when they deal me bad beats. I might curse my luck but never blame them. I don't tip pots where I take down the blinds. I tip $1 for most pots, and more for bigger ones, but never more than $5 (rarely $10). Good players - winning players - don't tip generously. That's what fish do. I take shots in bigger games. That often means leaving when I am up. (Duh.) Not necessarily immediately after, but not long after yes since that's what someone who shot-takes in a game above their roll should do.

And these are all theories, my friend. I am not "one of those 2 or 3 people" you are referring to by any means. I have plenty of poker friends in the room whom I get along very well with. It is very select few who dislike me, usually because I have called them out on their own behavioral problems at the table in front of other players or itt or are friends with such people.

But thanks for your support as I go through one of the worst downswings of my poker career, JohnnyDough. I am sure you are a really successful and happy person - certainly not bitter - who only comes across like someone who has nothing better to do with their time than to troll someone's pg&c thread.

The nice thing for me is that, even though I have been losing at poker lately, I actually am a successful and happy person living a wonderful life full of people I love and care about, including myself. I have overcome a lot to be where I am today, and the likes of you and other haters itt will not change that.

What is unfortunate, though, is that every time I seem to share anything about my poker journey at this point, I end up getting a large dose of negativity from random people like you. It pains me to consider this, but I am starting to think that the emotional cost to me of dealing with negative posters itt is starting to outweigh the positives of sharing my life with people who care about me and root for me. So it may be time to lower the public curtain on Dumbo's journey, at least for a little while. Thanks to all who have been following with good intentions. I will keep playing obviously, but my updates will be much less frequent going forward.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 01-24-2020 at 06:23 AM.
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01-24-2020 , 06:46 AM
I apologize my post was negative and I failed to consider that you’re running bad and need more supportive comments. I was simply being honest with my observations. I have no dog in your fight. Sometimes a brutal dose of honesty is the reality check one needs to become a better man, but it sounds like you’ve already identified that the problem isn’t you and just a select few negative people, which is believable as there are highly toxic individuals in every poker room. You’re not one of them and it’s sad that they’re all ganging up on you. Carry on and good luck
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01-24-2020 , 10:52 AM
OP..drive to Maryland Live..switch it up a little..it might help
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01-24-2020 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
“One long session.”
Yeah, it's trite, but you just have to do the best you can to treat it as such. You'll probably look back at your graph years from now and this will just be one little inconsequential blip, although obviously when you're in the middle of the blip it can be difficult.

I'm also stuck for the year so far. -82bbs over 4 sessions / 34 hours.

GeveryonelosesfromtimetotimeG
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01-24-2020 , 02:08 PM
DT, I'm getting on the hate bandwagon too!
Resisted it for so long, but now feel empowered through all the new account haters, to tell you how I really feel!

I wish your hand histories were a little better structured!

Otherwise, Been fascinating to follow your journey and how you put it out there day in day out.

There, I let you have it!

Have a nice day.
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01-24-2020 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
To my credit rather than piss and moan I just tapped the table and reloaded. Even as the spazz who doubled me up with AA the first time said “nice hand” repeatedly to the victor who told the dealer “namaste” as he hugged her.
Good job dude.
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01-24-2020 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Well after that AA/KK debacle
AA vs KK all in pre flop for $750 at 1/3 and getting stacked..... Yeah, that is a bit of a debacle.

Last edited by bruce@lfb; 01-24-2020 at 04:05 PM.
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01-24-2020 , 05:33 PM
The reason the regs don't like DT IMO:
Is, he is unbelievable nitty.. The guy can fold for several hours... If all the players played like DT. It would kill live poker... I have played with DT a few times... He doesn't bother me at all.. I just watching him fold and try not to give him action when he has a hand... He is actually pretty chill at the table from what I have seen..
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