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Originally Posted by Rainbeauman
Hi Dumbo, been following your blog for a while. I remember you said you used to always do this? Hit and run then come back for the minimum? You said it’s an acceptable strategy to protect and build your bankroll and you still do it to this day when you play higher steaks but maybe you do it more discretely like pretend to go eat or play a diffent game then come back so it doesn’t look like bad etiquette. Why the hypocrisy in calling the brotha out? I aspire to be a successful pro like you and want to hear your thoughts on that
When you’re building your roll and are relatively poor I think it’s fine to rathole. When I hit and run years ago, the money was a sizable portion of my
very limited bankroll. We’re talking one buy in was 1/20 of my roll in the beginning. A double up was 10% of my roll. You should not play with more than 5% of your roll on the table.
The thing is, this guy is not building a roll. He’s got money. He’s well into his 50s. He’s terrible at plo and is probably well aware that he’s more likely to lose it if he keeps playing with that much in front of him. He’s not using it as a bankroll building tool. He’s not even a winning player. So that’s not a valid reason in his case. I think it’s bad etiquette no matter who does it, but it’s worse in my view when there are no financial reasons for it. It’s detrimental to the people who lose without any real gain for the ratholer who is just going to blow it all eventually anyway. (Now that I say this I realize it probably does not matter that this player basically goes south in this systematic fashion.)
Now that I have built my roll I don’t need to do this anymore. Also, when I did leave, especially in my early years playing 1/3, it was after an appropriate amount of time. I didn’t do it literally as soon as I stacked my chips. I used appropriate etiquette and gave it an orbit or so. This guy leaves that same hand. He also apparently flouts the rules and comes back less than two hours later, according to another reg who he says “hates” him.
When I leave a game now for a different game - ie switch from plo to hold ‘em or vice versa - I normally don’t come back to play the earlier game, and if I do I don’t come in for the minimum. Cases where I come back normally involve the other game breaking, or I start to lose. I don’t really rathole anymore to be frank. I do enjoy a variety of games and sometimes, especially when losing, I will switch games. It’s usually not when winning that I change tables these days, it’s when running bad.