Can you prove that you have gave away $50million or is that just a number of the top of your head :/

Unless you have deposited with a credit/debit card the only way to withdraw is via check and you need to to verify your account, in order to that you need to send photo ID and also prove of your address.

I haven't had any problems with pokerstrategy.

they infact gave me two starting capitals so that was nice of em

you actually pay it back and more because an affiliate gets a % of a pokerroom's rake for each member they brought to that room.

The image on my ID was almost unviewable and I recieved my start-capital in about 12 hours...

I also wasn't approved. Is highly frustrating to send your own ID and personal documents and get a reply saying that "sorry, we cannot pass you out but we can't tell you why, you can't complain or try again, bbye".

I wouldn't mind not getting the bonus, but at least I'd like to know why, fake Identity it wasn't, so I'm assuming that they blocked me because I sent a regular bill and not a phone/bank/electricity bill. Making people not receive the bonus because of that, not saying why, and not letting anyone explain again... I won't even comment.

I understand that they would receive a lot of fake re-appreciation appeals but really, they are blocking lots of people with REAL intentions and real ID's, that shouldn't happen and the minimum they could do would give a proper reason to it.

Sorry but I have to agree with OP, at least to me, pokerstrategy $50 stake is just a fake marketing scheme, and I'm not saying It doesn't exists, but It surely doesn't work as it's meant to be.

they have a strict policy regarding checking the required documents

problem?

I have account in ftp, but my brother wants to get the 50$
Is he able to get the money ?

I guarantee you that you have not shipped $50,000,000 (50 million US Dollars) to poker players as starting bank rolls.

The unfeasibility of this number almost gives me an aneurism.

As someone who has worked for many companies in online marketing and as someone who has been an entrepreneur of many of their own businesses a claim like this is just absurd.

Hey war,

why would this be absurd?

The total yearly rake for online poker is $4-5 billion - and we've been around since 2007.

Say we give out 15m in free bankrolls per year, then this is just 0.4% of the whole online poker rake.

Considering that free $50 can be seen as a bonus cost, I don't think 0.4% is a unrealistic number for the main bonus programm of the world's largest poker affiliate.

Number games aside, I know for fact that we given more than 1m of $50 bankrolls - and you can ask poker rooms whether they deem this realisitc or not. I bet most will - especially if they have a track record of working with us.


@Rikitas:
If is it really your brother who wants the $50 and he did not yet get a Full Tilt account, this is possible.
But it sounds a little that you just want to trick Full Tilt, which you should not

Hey war,

why would this be absurd?

The total yearly rake for online poker is $4-5 billion - and we've been around since 2007.

Say we give out 15m in free bankrolls per year, then this is just 0.4% of the whole online poker rake.

Considering that free $50 can be seen as a bonus cost, I don't think 0.4% is a unrealistic number for the main bonus programm of the world's largest poker affiliate.

Number games aside, I know for fact that we given more than 1m of $50 bankrolls - and you can ask poker rooms whether they deem this realisitc or not. I bet most will - especially if they have a track record of working with us.


@Rikitas:
If is it really your brother who wants the $50 and he did not yet get a Full Tilt account, this is possible.
But it sounds a little that you just want to trick Full Tilt, which you should not

Honestly this shouldn't even require responding, however you are comparing two statistics that dont correlate with each other at all.

1. How much money you have given out...(please show me any documentation to prove this)

2. How much rake online poker rooms make per year.

Edit: Also i have never once tried to get your $50 and i dont deny that you give out the $50 to some people however I know you havent given out anywhere close to 50 million.

Just stay honest or be able to prove the absurd claims that you make.

It is for fact that even more than a million players got their $50 bankroll every single day.

We have more than 6,000 sign-ups per day & you just need to ask typical affiliates of ours about the conversion rate.

It would be okay if you would say: "I think that's incredibly high and thus doubt it."

But saying "I know for a fact you haven't given out anywhere close to that." is just a blatant lie, as you have no statistics of our system.


Why did I draw the comparison to rake?
Because Free$50 is a bonus cost, and in the whole industry, around 30% of all rake is ultimately bonus cost.

This means we know that there are roughly $1.500 million bonus costs / year.
Why would then $15 million for the world's largest affiliate be unrealistic?

I think you heavily underestimate the share of new poker players that PokerStrategy.com generates.

It is def. not a fake. I got the money in 2006, used it to build my BR and never deposited any money on my own Until today i made thousands of dollars playing online poker ;-)
I know it sounds like propaganda but it's simply true...

Thx, Pokerstrategy!

i recived 3 free 50$, and im from croatia...lol
@party, @fulltilt and @william hill..)

I just got my BR and i don't need to go thro any ID checks! The free $$ expires (meaning retracted back, all of them) if you don't earn 50$ rake for them within a period of them though, so i think it's more like them lending you the 50$ rather than giving you the 50$.

@tehbloke: true - as we could not uphold the offer if we would lose money to fraudsters or people who don't play with it.

From your website: "There are no strings attached to this free poker money offer. The no deposit bonus and the money you win belong to you, it's your money. You can play with it or even cash it out to your bank account."

Not entirely true then is it?

Hey besmod,

could you link me to that?
Maybe it's an outdated site.

Normally, we explain that in detail, see e.g.:

Source: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/full-tilt-poker/free50/


In general, our conditions are supposed to...
- prevent / disincentivise fraud
- help players stick to the bankroll management initially

Here is the link: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/no-deposit-bonus/ - about 3rd paragraph on the page.

I don't hold it against you, it is misleading yes, but that is what advertising is all about. It would be -EV to tell every visitor to the site the full details of your offer.

Thanks a lot for the hint!

Of course you need to gear the communication so that it sounds simple & appealing, but still the information should be true/correct/not wrong.

When making a claim such as "You receive a $50 bonus with no strings attached that you can withdraw into your bank account", I believe the convention is to have a little asterisk* and a disclaimer at the bottom of the page explaining the conditions of cashing out the bonus.

"No strings attached?" oh wait we mean 1,000 Full Tilt points.

@Pascal-lF:
The strings beginners are worried about are things like:
- I have to deposit
- it's just play money
- etc.

No beginner expects that someone gives money gifts that you can instantly cash out with no limitations. And it would also not be possible as it would make fraud way more prevalent than today.

"There are no strings attached to this free poker money offer. The no deposit bonus and the money you win belong to you, it's your money. You can play with it or even cash it out to your bank account."

Then take out the end bit IMO. The way it reads at the moment is that there are no strings attached, and that you can cash it out without any strings. Agree with besmod that a * at the end of cash it out would be a good solution.