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[OFFICIAL] Winrates, bankrolls, and finances

View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr

Less than 0 (losing)

6 6.32%

0-2.5

0 0%

2.5-5

7 7.37%

5-7.5

8 8.42%

7.5-10

16 16.84%

10+

35 36.84%

Not enough sample size/I don't know

23 24.21%

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08-21-2012 , 06:01 AM

#2201

Midnight Cowboy

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 549

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Originally Posted by kards

Real Quick Question:

If playing poker as your sole means of income, what do you do about taxes so the IRS doesn't take your ****!????

when the IRS takes your ****, that IS taxes.

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08-21-2012 , 06:14 AM

#2202

Sol Reader

The Situation

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9,380

I've had a -1050bb session but recovered in a few sessions do not exactly a downswing.

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08-21-2012 , 09:15 AM

#2203

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Reader

I've had a -1050bb session but recovered in a few sessions do not exactly a downswing.

Sounds like a pretty bad session

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08-21-2012 , 09:33 AM

#2204

Sol Reader

The Situation

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9,380

Yeah it was. Game was uncapped so pretty deep.

Funnily enough I almost broke even that day because I got action on my friend who won more than I'd lost. At same stakes. Wat.

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08-21-2012 , 09:40 AM

#2205

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

if it makes you feel any better I'm 2/12 in my last 12 coinflips in over 1k pots where we were AI pf or AI otf. I am excited for when I'm on the other side of it.

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08-21-2012 , 10:11 AM

#2206

Sol Reader

The Situation

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9,380

Well it's nothing really bad sessions happen, as does run bad.

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08-21-2012 , 11:35 AM

#2207

PolProf

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 689

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Originally Posted by 11t

yeah i really want to find an easy way to take notes about hands while at the table, trying to write the **** out is so time consuming i miss out on the next hand

If you are folding the next hand walk away from the table and use your smartphone voice recorder to take notes. Much quicker than writing and you can put a lot of info into the recording that would be difficult to do quickly with a written note.

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08-21-2012 , 11:51 AM

#2208

chaser3

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,200

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11t

yeah i really want to find an easy way to take notes about hands while at the table, trying to write the **** out is so time consuming i miss out on the next hand

Download a poker odds app. Put the hands in the poker odds, and then take a screenshot.

From this, I am generally able to remember most details about the hand. The only problem is if you get a lot of Ako hands that did not go to showdown.... Otherwise it works pretty quick for me.

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08-21-2012 , 12:19 PM

#2209

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

ive thought about bringing a pen/paper but figured that would look ridiculous

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08-21-2012 , 03:54 PM

#2210

mpethybridge

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 16,997

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuffle

For any of you lifetime winners at 1/2, what's your longest break-even stretch?

I am currently break-even over my last 200 hours, but still $22 / hour winner liftetime.

I am 100% definitely running very bad this year, basically drawing dead anytime I sit at a table, but after awhile one has to start questioning if they are playing poorly and contributing to the problem.

In the last 14 months, I had:

1 downswing of -11 buy ins (120 hours)

2 downswings of -5 buy ins (short, less than 80 hours)

1 break even stretch of 160 hours.

If your current break even stretch is the worst variance you've seen so far, then you have been running ridiculously hot up to now, most likely. Your win rate being on the high side despite the last 200 hours also suggests you've been running good.

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08-21-2012 , 04:01 PM

#2211

mpethybridge

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 16,997

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11t

ive thought about bringing a pen/paper but figured that would look ridiculous

The vast majority of hands you play should be completely standard, IMO. I play maybe two hands a week where I feel like my decision is genuinely difficult. The point being that there shouldn't be too many hands you feel the need to write down, and those you can just take down in your phone right there at the table. Maybe wait a hand or two so it's not obvious you're taking a note (as opposed to testing your s.o. or w/e).

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08-21-2012 , 05:29 PM

#2212

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,542

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpethybridge

This is subjective though, there are plenty of spots that non standard lines could be used where we miss out on value playing exactly standard.

For instance last week a nit limps in EP, passive player limps behind I check in bb

Flop comes 336

I ch, nit bets, passive player calls and I fold

I easily could have ch/rd there and folded both the players out with my image but I didn't

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08-21-2012 , 05:49 PM

#2213

mpethybridge

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 16,997

By standard, I don't mean necessarily that we're just playing ABC. the spot you describe is an easy bluff raise/fold spot.

I'll also note that a week later, you remember it well enough to summarize it as you did. So I'm not sure you need to be taking contemporaneous notes.

When I was being diligent, I was in the habit of waking up the morning after avsession and typing up my important hands. Maybe you could do something like that? You might forget one or two, but it'd be better than not doing anything, and better than missing action at the table by taking notes during your sesh. IMO, anyway.

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08-24-2012 , 03:51 AM

#2214

pengoreagle

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 8

I have come to the experts to find an answer to my question. What rate of return in BB's should I be looking for if I was playing $1-2 NLH live for a living?

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08-24-2012 , 03:56 AM

#2215

Jah Onion

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 10,955

bout tree fiddy.

but srsly, prob much less than that given the question you just asked

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08-24-2012 , 06:09 AM

#2216

BWillie

veteran

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,645

Do they comp drinks or not? That is very important queshion to ax urself

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08-24-2012 , 06:31 AM

#2217

negtv capability

adept

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,186

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$1-2 NLH live for a living?

1) marry a moderately wealthy fish.
2) Tell him/her u want to play "1-2 NLH live for a living?"
3) Go to Africa.
4) Tie him/her to a raft on the Niger River and force him/her to play hu4rollz.
5) Live out ur dream until it's cut short by a pirate's machete.
6) EZ GAME

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08-24-2012 , 10:47 AM

#2218

squid face

ChatThreadPrez

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,695

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Originally Posted by negtv capability

outstanding poast sir ty!!!!

both totally random and wonderful

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08-24-2012 , 10:52 AM

#2219

AintNoLimit

Coach live/online NLHE

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,399

Bout the same as the rate of descent you will be travelling at when you jump off the top of the Bellagio (after realizing what career path you have chosen).

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08-24-2012 , 11:00 AM

#2220

YoungPokerStar

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 514

You should try using a taser on yourself. That will give you the answer.

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08-24-2012 , 11:00 AM

#2221

Qstick333

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 548

If you don't have a substantial history giving you the answer to this, you are probably in trouble already.

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08-24-2012 , 11:15 AM

#2222

River G

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 453

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Do they comp drinks or not? That is very important queshion to ax urself

LOL!

Seriously though, I doubt anyone can make a real living at $1-$2. I think once you're consistently beating the game for 4+ BB/hour, you move up in stakes. Consistently meaning over a decent sample size. Not sure exactly what that might be, but a rough guess would be about 300 hours if you're averaging 25 hands / hour. Probably still a small sample size, but decent at least.

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08-24-2012 , 11:38 AM

#2223

Little_blue

adept

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 971

Since last may..Ive played just short of 1000 hours....I'm just short of $16 for the entire time. Over the last 500 hours I'm averaging $21....did a lot of really stupid things my first few month playing....In case you have not worked it out that is $15229 for the past 15 month...playing about 20 hours a week...

I only count the money I cash out for less the money I buy in for...I do not count bus fares hotel rooms food (often comped but taxes still payed). On the other hand my $30 slot card I get for the $30 bus ride is showing a small net profit ...Yeh....