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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

08-05-2016 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Unless you're down like 20bi. Then you're prolly a fish..
Think he needs another 4-500 hours to know for sure.

I've got a seat open.
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08-05-2016 , 03:39 AM
my info is mostly meaningless, i was just curious about others
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08-05-2016 , 04:56 AM
Better upgrade your hardware to enjoy the new features. My win rates at poker is not that much. I just have decent bankroll and I just join penny games so loosing wont hurt so much.
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08-05-2016 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
I now have 9.5BI.

Realized last night that the correct play for me for a while now should be to stand up everytime I double up.

But who does that.
Or use a hard and fast stop loss when you're 2x+.

GJ getting to 10... It ain't easy building from scratch.
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08-05-2016 , 03:32 PM
Good idea to keep track per day !

i'm gonna add this to my excel sheet !

I only have 120 hours tho...im working 18 hours a week and go to my cottage almost every weekends so i cant put a lot of hours...

Since i'm a recreationnal player (40 hours/month) i might as well just try 2/5 next time i go.

Fwiw (nothing_lol) : looks like I ran good on monday and saturday and that i suck the other days :P


Ps: its in french but Jour=Day, Dimanche=Sunday, Lundi=Monday and so on...Samedi=Saturday !
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08-05-2016 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flowrider
Or use a hard and fast stop loss when you're 2x+.

GJ getting to 10... It ain't easy building from scratch.
Thanks!

I've done it multiple times. You're right it isn't easy. It helps to be a big winner in the game. Aside from that you have to run good early and avoid high variance spots if it means your roll is gone forever. This latest incarnation has involved much more luck than I'd like.

When you've only got a couple of BI to your name you really are at the mercy of variance no matter how good you are as evidenced by my recent 10BI downswing. If that had happened a month earlier I'd be out of the game for another 6 months.


On a bright note my wife and I have come to terms with my involvement in the game. I understand I won't be able to play as much and she doesn't get freaked out when I do. I play less than I'd like but more than I might otherwise. It helps that I've told her I'll donate my profits after my roll reaches 30BI to buying our house. Now all she cares about is how close I am to the magic line.
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08-05-2016 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
On a bright note my wife and I have come to terms with my involvement in the game. I understand I won't be able to play as much and she doesn't get freaked out when I do. I play less than I'd like but more than I might otherwise. It helps that I've told her I'll donate my profits after my roll reaches 30BI to buying our house. Now all she cares about is how close I am to the magic line.


How do you settle up with her? Is it after each session, at the end of the month, something else?

I'm in very close to the same situation
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08-05-2016 , 07:37 PM
There's no settling. Once I hit my BR goal, whatever I make after that will go toward the down payment when it happens.

If you're not in that situation, I would just suggest spend some of it on things you both can enjoy, so she sees then benefit of you playing. Never spend below your min BR requirements though. She has to understand that anything under that number is untouchable.
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08-06-2016 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Agreed. but there are different levels of terribleness. I have over 400 hours during the week and over 400 hours on weekends. My weekend win rate is just about exactly double my weekday win rate.
My 2/5 winrate was much higher for weekdays than weekends. On avg weekends should be softer but weekdays tend to be soft as hell too especially late at night. Where I played all the semi-pros just played Thursday-Saturday..although, it was evened out a bit just based on the sheer number of weekend players.

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Originally Posted by VolumeKing
Play Vegas on Tuesday. Then play on Saturday.
I prefer Tuesday because cheaper flights to/from Vegas and much cheaper hotel rooms.
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08-06-2016 , 11:16 AM
I am actually barely winning on Saturday while crushing on Thursdays. There's a ton of variance on day results, so I would be reticent to take anything at face value, but weekends should be expected to be more profitable.
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08-06-2016 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DasCoupe
I'm so jealous of everyone saying how soft and beatable their 1/2 games are... the talk at my 1/2 table (only Poker room within an hour) is how XXX casino in Alberta is super soft, or stuff like that... The people for the most part during the week are complete regs that often know each other or at least play against each other often, and I see a lot of the young ones talking strat away from the table.

I like to think of myself as a decent player, but a decent player is not going to walk in and start beating this 1/2 game...

Soooo.... I'm off to become better than decent and put together a big enough BR to handle the variance


LOL Alberta games are tough. What a laugh.

Was in Edmonton last week. +4BI in 3 hours and didn't get a concussion from the deck. The games are soft... You just have to be more observant about how they play and how they play each other.
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08-06-2016 , 05:57 PM
I wasn't being sarcastic I am in Kelowna BC and all the 'regs' as in people with a proper bankroll that like to hit up the casinos when they travel say that Alberta is silly easy compared to our tables... I am really good at picking up others conversations to help figure out what kind of players they are..

From what I've seen the poker room in Kelowna is far tougher than most at least the nights I've been...

Hard to get a real opinion with around 10 hours max experience at live 1/2


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08-06-2016 , 06:21 PM
If you are a nit, any non-aggressive game is tough.
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08-06-2016 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
If you are a nit, any non-aggressive game is tough.
Lol trolling
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08-06-2016 , 07:16 PM
I have played Saturdays for 138 hours out of 585 hours this year for a total of six dollars in profit
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08-07-2016 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by homerdash
I have played Saturdays for 138 hours out of 585 hours this year for a total of six dollars in profit
So....you're a winning player. Whaddaya want...a medal?

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08-07-2016 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
How do you settle up with her? Is it after each session, at the end of the month, something else?

I'm in very close to the same situation
So I play full time. I have a segregated bank account for poker and my wife understands the fundamentals of bankroll management. It's simple. I give her half of all my winnings after each session and I absorb the losses from my bankroll.

She never asks a thing about money. She never questions me after a loss. And she never complains about me staying out til 4am.

I'm actually thinking about retooling this system (maybe only paying her half of my weekly winnings), because it does cause my bankroll to grow pretty slowly. For example, the past month I am +4700 in our joint account for paying bills, but -500 from my bankroll.

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08-07-2016 , 02:10 AM
Not gonna lie all you married guys sound whipped. Wife gets half the winnings but you absorb losses? Wtf is that. I guess I'm destined for lifelong bachelorhood.
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08-07-2016 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Not gonna lie all you married guys sound whipped. Wife gets half the winnings but you absorb losses? Wtf is that. I guess I'm destined for lifelong bachelorhood.
It's not about being whipped. If I had a normal job, my paycheck and her paycheck would all go to the same account. As it is, I would not be a good partner if I were to gamble for a living and keep all my money to myself while we have a household to maintain.

But I wouldn't expect someone who views themselves destined for lifelong bachelorhood to understand the teamwork required to make a marriage work.

I do not envy the guys in the poker room with nobody that loves them to go home to.

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08-07-2016 , 03:42 AM
Literally all of western Canada is just printing money, although this year has had less stupid 10/25 and 25/50 games.
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08-07-2016 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by homerdash
I have played Saturdays for 138 hours out of 585 hours this year for a total of six dollars in profit
It's getting to the point where I'm thinking of taking Saturday's completely off. Saturday's f*cking bloooooooooow compared to weeknights if you have a skill edge over the room.

All the fishies buying in short hamstrings the sh*t out of your play. Can't see as many flops with speculative hands. Can't 3bet without KK+. Cant make any moves post-flop. Don't win as big of pots when you hit a set since stacks are so shallow, and also don't get the right odds to set mine since stacks are so shallow. The presence of these shorties also make action players tighten up a bit since even they intuitively know that they cant bluff optimally post flop or that they wont get implied odds to chase with their J8 offsuit.

Sure, sometimes you stack the shorties when you have a premium and they have to make desperate shoves pre or on the flop. But, this is based on you being dealt cards. If you go card dead, you are f*cked.

Also, you are much more likely to have multiple shorthanded tables on a Saturday night. This means getting a table change is more difficult if your particular table sucks since the floor has to fill in seats.

On weeknights, there's always atleast one full table where everyone is 200bb deep. Sure, they are mostly regs. But once you have reads on the regs you can crush them with less variance than you would a fish. Lose a decent sized pot? No sweat. You can reload without being hit and run from a weekend recreational player who is going to cash out as soon as they get up over 50BB's for their session.

I play professionally and managing tilt is a big part of being a pro. It seems that Saturday's consistently get me feeling frustrated way more than any other day.

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08-07-2016 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
If you are a nit, any non-aggressive game is tough to make a profit.
Ftfy
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08-07-2016 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincePuffin
It's not about being whipped. If I had a normal job, my paycheck and her paycheck would all go to the same account. As it is, I would not be a good partner if I were to gamble for a living and keep all my money to myself while we have a household to maintain.

But I wouldn't expect someone who views themselves destined for lifelong bachelorhood to understand the teamwork required to make a marriage work.

I do not envy the guys in the poker room with nobody that loves them to go home to.

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No one here I think questions the need for sharing the burdens of a household or the benefits of a relationship.

There are two things that sound dissonant however. The one is that you give your wife the winnings so that she will manage it. I don't know how people manage their common money together and a woman should be respected, but I think that overcompensates.

The second is that the system you described is -as you probably see for yourself- in substance far less fair than it appears. You re not even giving her half of your net winnings. You re giving her half of your gross winnings. In effect, you re giving her the majority of your net winnings. Under certain circumstances, it's conceivable you could find yourself giving her money even while you re losing. That ain't right.
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08-07-2016 , 01:52 PM
Maybe I didn't do a good job of explaining my situation. Let me clarify. The money I "give" to my wife goes to our common account. Liferoll money, if you will. She does not have sole control of that money. It is ours. We both benefit from that money. It pays bills we share. Her paycheck goes to that account as well. We are on a strict budget that is equitable to us both.

The money I keep is strictly off-budget poker bankroll money. It is not "my" money any more than the liferoll is "my" money. It is simply operating capital for my poker venture.

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08-07-2016 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincePuffin
I do not envy the guys in the poker room with nobody that loves them to go home to.

Damn. That was deep. Can't argue with you there.

brb ganna go try to buy a wife online, I got a 50k budget.
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