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Old 08-04-2016, 11:35 AM   #15901
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I defiantly agree. Due diligence should be an important aspect of most major descisions in life








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Im glad someone else cant spell "definitely". I have to use spell check every damned time. Assuming you weren't actually being defiant when you agreed with me.
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:38 AM   #15902
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Definitely/defiantly is a common word I get F'ed on by her
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:50 PM   #15903
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anyone keep track of hourly per day? i have a very small sample size but it shows weekends are way better - https://gyazo.com/4d1cc4728fd987a943c227519a8d46a8
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:09 PM   #15904
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Yes. (Well, sort of, based on the day of the week that the session *ends* on, so a session on Friday night that runs until 2am gets counted as "Saturday".)

I'm negative on Wednesdays with only about 200 hours, break even on Mondays with 1000 hours (probably Sunday PLO skewing that).

Best days are Tues/Thurs/Friday at $10/$15/$10/hr respectively, 3-500 hours each. I think this is dominated by some insane home games.

Sat/Sun are about $9/hr over roughly 2000 combined hours (about half and half). This has a LOT of casino time from years ago.

I'm not even sure it's fair to compare these as the home games during the week are so different. I wouldn't draw any conclusions from your 180 hour total sample. One big hand either way will swing one of your days by $10/hr.
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:26 PM   #15905
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anyone keep track of hourly per day? i have a very small sample size but it shows weekends are way better - https://gyazo.com/4d1cc4728fd987a943c227519a8d46a8


Some tracking software has this built in. RunGood and Poker Income both do
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:52 PM   #15906
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You can literally have 1 hand in a 180 stretch that will change your win rate by $5 an hour in a 1/2 game.

It's insane to think that anything you derive from 180 is really useful in the long term.
Unless you're down like 20bi. Then you're prolly a fish..

But other than that. Nothing really.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:20 AM   #15907
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Unless you're down like 20bi. Then you're prolly a fish..
Think he needs another 4-500 hours to know for sure.

I've got a seat open.
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Old 08-05-2016, 03:39 AM   #15908
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my info is mostly meaningless, i was just curious about others
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Old 08-05-2016, 04:56 AM   #15909
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Better upgrade your hardware to enjoy the new features. My win rates at poker is not that much. I just have decent bankroll and I just join penny games so loosing wont hurt so much.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:19 AM   #15910
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I now have 9.5BI.

Realized last night that the correct play for me for a while now should be to stand up everytime I double up.

But who does that.
Or use a hard and fast stop loss when you're 2x+.

GJ getting to 10... It ain't easy building from scratch.
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Old 08-05-2016, 03:32 PM   #15911
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Good idea to keep track per day !

i'm gonna add this to my excel sheet !

I only have 120 hours tho...im working 18 hours a week and go to my cottage almost every weekends so i cant put a lot of hours...

Since i'm a recreationnal player (40 hours/month) i might as well just try 2/5 next time i go.

Fwiw (nothing_lol) : looks like I ran good on monday and saturday and that i suck the other days :P


Ps: its in french but Jour=Day, Dimanche=Sunday, Lundi=Monday and so on...Samedi=Saturday !
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Old 08-05-2016, 04:24 PM   #15912
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Or use a hard and fast stop loss when you're 2x+.

GJ getting to 10... It ain't easy building from scratch.
Thanks!

I've done it multiple times. You're right it isn't easy. It helps to be a big winner in the game. Aside from that you have to run good early and avoid high variance spots if it means your roll is gone forever. This latest incarnation has involved much more luck than I'd like.

When you've only got a couple of BI to your name you really are at the mercy of variance no matter how good you are as evidenced by my recent 10BI downswing. If that had happened a month earlier I'd be out of the game for another 6 months.


On a bright note my wife and I have come to terms with my involvement in the game. I understand I won't be able to play as much and she doesn't get freaked out when I do. I play less than I'd like but more than I might otherwise. It helps that I've told her I'll donate my profits after my roll reaches 30BI to buying our house. Now all she cares about is how close I am to the magic line.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:30 PM   #15913
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On a bright note my wife and I have come to terms with my involvement in the game. I understand I won't be able to play as much and she doesn't get freaked out when I do. I play less than I'd like but more than I might otherwise. It helps that I've told her I'll donate my profits after my roll reaches 30BI to buying our house. Now all she cares about is how close I am to the magic line.


How do you settle up with her? Is it after each session, at the end of the month, something else?

I'm in very close to the same situation
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:37 PM   #15914
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There's no settling. Once I hit my BR goal, whatever I make after that will go toward the down payment when it happens.

If you're not in that situation, I would just suggest spend some of it on things you both can enjoy, so she sees then benefit of you playing. Never spend below your min BR requirements though. She has to understand that anything under that number is untouchable.
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:23 AM   #15915
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Agreed. but there are different levels of terribleness. I have over 400 hours during the week and over 400 hours on weekends. My weekend win rate is just about exactly double my weekday win rate.
My 2/5 winrate was much higher for weekdays than weekends. On avg weekends should be softer but weekdays tend to be soft as hell too especially late at night. Where I played all the semi-pros just played Thursday-Saturday..although, it was evened out a bit just based on the sheer number of weekend players.

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Play Vegas on Tuesday. Then play on Saturday.
I prefer Tuesday because cheaper flights to/from Vegas and much cheaper hotel rooms.
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Old 08-06-2016, 11:16 AM   #15916
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I am actually barely winning on Saturday while crushing on Thursdays. There's a ton of variance on day results, so I would be reticent to take anything at face value, but weekends should be expected to be more profitable.
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Old 08-06-2016, 12:39 PM   #15917
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I'm so jealous of everyone saying how soft and beatable their 1/2 games are... the talk at my 1/2 table (only Poker room within an hour) is how XXX casino in Alberta is super soft, or stuff like that... The people for the most part during the week are complete regs that often know each other or at least play against each other often, and I see a lot of the young ones talking strat away from the table.

I like to think of myself as a decent player, but a decent player is not going to walk in and start beating this 1/2 game...

Soooo.... I'm off to become better than decent and put together a big enough BR to handle the variance


LOL Alberta games are tough. What a laugh.

Was in Edmonton last week. +4BI in 3 hours and didn't get a concussion from the deck. The games are soft... You just have to be more observant about how they play and how they play each other.
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Old 08-06-2016, 05:57 PM   #15918
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I wasn't being sarcastic I am in Kelowna BC and all the 'regs' as in people with a proper bankroll that like to hit up the casinos when they travel say that Alberta is silly easy compared to our tables... I am really good at picking up others conversations to help figure out what kind of players they are..

From what I've seen the poker room in Kelowna is far tougher than most at least the nights I've been...

Hard to get a real opinion with around 10 hours max experience at live 1/2


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Old 08-06-2016, 06:21 PM   #15919
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If you are a nit, any non-aggressive game is tough.
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Old 08-06-2016, 06:34 PM   #15920
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:16 PM   #15921
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Old 08-07-2016, 12:59 AM   #15922
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I have played Saturdays for 138 hours out of 585 hours this year for a total of six dollars in profit
So....you're a winning player. Whaddaya want...a medal?

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Old 08-07-2016, 01:49 AM   #15923
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How do you settle up with her? Is it after each session, at the end of the month, something else?

I'm in very close to the same situation
So I play full time. I have a segregated bank account for poker and my wife understands the fundamentals of bankroll management. It's simple. I give her half of all my winnings after each session and I absorb the losses from my bankroll.

She never asks a thing about money. She never questions me after a loss. And she never complains about me staying out til 4am.

I'm actually thinking about retooling this system (maybe only paying her half of my weekly winnings), because it does cause my bankroll to grow pretty slowly. For example, the past month I am +4700 in our joint account for paying bills, but -500 from my bankroll.

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Old 08-07-2016, 02:10 AM   #15924
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Not gonna lie all you married guys sound whipped. Wife gets half the winnings but you absorb losses? Wtf is that. I guess I'm destined for lifelong bachelorhood.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:17 AM   #15925
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Not gonna lie all you married guys sound whipped. Wife gets half the winnings but you absorb losses? Wtf is that. I guess I'm destined for lifelong bachelorhood.
It's not about being whipped. If I had a normal job, my paycheck and her paycheck would all go to the same account. As it is, I would not be a good partner if I were to gamble for a living and keep all my money to myself while we have a household to maintain.

But I wouldn't expect someone who views themselves destined for lifelong bachelorhood to understand the teamwork required to make a marriage work.

I do not envy the guys in the poker room with nobody that loves them to go home to.

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