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Old 05-09-2016, 05:20 PM   #14526
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i havent put in a bunch of hours in limit games but generally they is WAY more table talk, joking, drinking compared to a dead silent 1/2nl pro grinder wannabe game.

lol im not saying i would have a beer or dinner with anyone playing idk 6-12 with a full kill off the felt, just pointing out that they are more enjoyable than a typical low stakes nl game filled with aspiring pros or we
Where do you play that the low limit players are, well, human?

Tbh, I've seen some exceptions where there is a low limit table with a good vibe, but not the norm.

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Old 05-09-2016, 08:03 PM   #14527
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I actually think the lower the limit you go the more enjoyable the company is.

Disclaimer: Have never sat +10/25
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:07 PM   #14528
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I actually think the lower the limit you go the more enjoyable the company is.

Disclaimer: Have never sat +10/25

Haha think it's the exact opposite






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Old 05-09-2016, 08:11 PM   #14529
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Haha think it's the exact opposite






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Would you agree with me if I said that the alcohol to cupholder ratio and rec to pro ratio is much higher in lower limit games?
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Old 05-09-2016, 08:44 PM   #14530
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Would you agree with me if I said that the alcohol to cupholder ratio and rec to pro ratio is much higher in lower limit games?

In general yes probably. But the bitching about losing 52/48 "flips" and general whining is worse at 1/2, 2/5






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Old 05-09-2016, 09:34 PM   #14531
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I actually think the lower the limit you go the more enjoyable the company is.

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Way way better company at higher stake non Vegas games
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:58 PM   #14532
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Tables at my room I see having the most fun are the big Omaha games with old rich Chinese guys and the young pros who they are happy to play with who joke and gamble with them. Regularly hear a table roar with laughter and look to see somebody get sucked out on in a 20k pot
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:11 PM   #14533
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Hey guys, saw a lot of bickering about the 10bb/hr rule and to throw my two cents in, I think it's the golden standard to say your crushing that stake and can easily move up. It's achievable for some for sure, but not many....and even 6bb+/hr is being no slouch with a rake and some bad downswings. Anyway....here's my sample for 1/3....keep in mind that $6 rake in a 1:3 is savage.

18k,22.7hr,107 per session,797hrs, 168 sessions in total, 7.94bbs/hr, 50bbs/hr std dev

This is all considering I pay meals out of stack, buy at least 3 beers at $8 a pop also out of my stack, and generally get too hammered and give some back at the end of the night if I don't watch myself....so yeah I think long term it's not that unrealistic. But my game plays pretty big and most people buy-in for $300 and it's not uncommon to see terrible players with $500+ Stacks, albeit the general pool is actually pretty decent.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:19 PM   #14534
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i play 3/6 ohl with a full kill and T/20 mixed whenever im the area visiting family.. for the simple reason that its fun thanks to the games themselves and also the company. but its small no rake poker club filled mainly with old men who have known eachother for decades.

lol sample size but i dont think theres a single player trying to make a living at that game. they are there to mess around and shoot the ****.. compared to a low stakes no limit game that has at least 3 wannabe or actual pros who take themselves way too seriously
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Old 05-09-2016, 11:11 PM   #14535
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In general yes probably. But the bitching about losing 52/48 "flips" and general whining is worse at 1/2, 2/5






Lol this guy....STFU Zoltan
So true...

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Old 05-10-2016, 07:03 AM   #14536
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I actually think the lower the limit you go the more enjoyable the company is.

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as someone who's played plenty of hours in both "low" stakes and what I think a lot of people would consider "high" stakes, this is completely not true.

More regs per recs at higher stakes (obviously). But there isn't as much complaining and outright ridiculous rudeness when you play bigger.

most of the 2/5nl pros in Vegas have absolutely no idea why constantly talking strategy and yelling at recs when they do dumb **** is an absurd way to conduct yourself.

I see way less of this in bigger games.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:07 AM   #14537
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10bb/hr is easy. Not sure what it should be, never been that smart to play in such paradise.


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Old 05-10-2016, 08:09 AM   #14538
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:11 AM   #14539
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as someone who's played plenty of hours in both "low" stakes and what I think a lot of people would consider "high" stakes, this is completely not true.



More regs per recs at higher stakes (obviously). But there isn't as much complaining and outright ridiculous rudeness when you play bigger.



most of the 2/5nl pros in Vegas have absolutely no idea why constantly talking strategy and yelling at recs when they do dumb **** is an absurd way to conduct yourself.



I see way less of this in bigger games.


I actually think the vast majority of 5/10+ regs are way more enjoyable to be around

Most have had huge winning and losing sessions and therefore are more used to it.

Way fewer blow ups/crying etc

Typically the conversation (ime/imo) has been more enjoyable
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:23 AM   #14540
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5/T+ is way more enjoyable. It's not even close.
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Old 05-10-2016, 08:26 AM   #14541
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The more I think about it though the 5/T+ crowd in MD is the exception to the other places I've played it. Vegas and AC 5/T games have been pretty awful
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:22 AM   #14542
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The more I think about it though the 5/T+ crowd in MD is the exception to the other places I've played it. Vegas and AC 5/T games have been pretty awful


Probably bc I'm there bruh
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:11 PM   #14543
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The more I think about it though the 5/T+ crowd in MD is the exception to the other places I've played it. Vegas and AC 5/T games have been pretty awful
Fwiw, I've talked to multiple recs at MDL that play 2/5 over 5/10 because they don't like playing with all of the silent pro types at 5/10.


Higher stakes PLO is by far the most fun environment imo.
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:14 PM   #14544
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5/T+ is way more enjoyable. It's not even close.
I've told people and I'll stand by it that 2/5 is the WOAT player pool ever. At least at most 1/2 tables there are plenty of people donating and out for a good time. At 2/5 a lot of the dip****s actually think they are good in spite of the fact that most of them are turrible.
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Old 05-10-2016, 03:54 PM   #14545
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In my area the higher stakes games are actually more fun because that's where all the whales are at. At 1/2 all the broke wannabe pros grind win the OMCs 12 hrs with their hoodies up. It's actually quite funny except
That they suck the fun and also the winrate right out of the room.
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Old 05-10-2016, 09:14 PM   #14546
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I only see like 6 errors in this poast and 1 rec to break the law. Poast should be stickied IMO
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:55 PM   #14547
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:52 PM   #14548
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whoever thinks lower stakes is a more enjoyable crowd has no idea about anything. absurd thing to say.
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Old 05-11-2016, 12:54 PM   #14549
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It depends.

Vegas 2/5 is all filled with wannabe pros and, in turn, create a serious atmosphere that casual recs would rather skip by moving down to 1/3 and 1/2.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:31 PM   #14550
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Most of the casinos in the country 5/10 games are much more enjoyable to play. Vegas you get a lot of drunk tourists who are looking to have fun so that could be an exception
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