Motivation is fleeting, it comes and goes, it is often dependent on getting caught up in something bigger than yourself. What you need is determination. Determination is what you rely on when motivation rears its ugly head and walks out on you.

Sick results

Nice stuff Rob

Vegas games confirmed ez

With a heater like this, you're easily tipping $3 pr hour, so your net win rate is ~$32.00

Fish on an extended 2015 heater...need more volume though, been busy with work. 1/2 is easy.

2015 total, 1/2, 1/3, 2/5




1/2




1/3




2/5

Wj,

Plz to haz yer coachin sir

outstanding results wj

Thanks. There's some OFC results in the total for the year so overall hourly is kind of off.

Good lord.. I have never seen results like this. Where in the world are you finding games that juicy? I don't think there is enough money on the table at my local games to even have a chance at that kind of hourly!

No need to include, from what I hear, nobody pays in OFC, nobody collects either haha

Sick results by RF and WJ. Nice!

G$11.00/hrover402hoursof1/3NLin2015,ugG

Greatest 1/2 player in the world

Almost all of the 1/2 is at Red Rock, 1/3 mostly at Wynn, 2/5 mostly at Aria and Red Rock...RobFarha also shat all over my winrate, dude's in boss mode

Hey guys,

Long time lurker, so forgive me if this is the wrong place to post this. I just "Four years and still having losing session" thread and thought I'd post my situation here as oppose to making a thread.

A very brief over view about me. I'm in my mid 20s, been playing live poker on and off for 3-4 yeas now, but never played consistently for more than (I'm guessing really) 2 months straight or roughly 60+ hours straight. During this time I've had winning and losing sessions; however, I've never put in long enough volume to really judge whether I can beat 1-2 1-3 game.

lack of bank roll has been a major issue for me due to being in college, working part time, etc. Now, I landed a full time job, saving up to move out, and also trying to save up for a poker roll.

I've been playing turbo tournies here and there (cashed in 2 out of my last 3 but that was likely do to good variance since these are turbos) and cash games here and there, and I'm noticing the rust, lack of stamina to put in a sessions over 4 hours, winners tilt, and getting foggy brained in some tough spots.

So questions for you guys in my situation.

What kind of BR should I save up for before playing part time (20-25 hours a week) playing 1-2 and 1-3?

How should I approach the game let's say the first 100 hours or so?

What are some effective mini session, weekly and monthly goals are helpful to building a BR and staying in the game long terms?

Thanks for any advice guys, sorry for the TL;DR

Edit:

My reading list
-The Mental Game of Poker
- Playing The Player
- And just picked up The Psychology of poker after reading Off the table analysis COTM

Not exactly sure what you mean by this. You can start playing as long as you have enough poker money to buy in for your desired depth and enough money behind to not play poorly because your worried about busting out for the night.

Standard financial guidance applies though. Make sure you have some emergency money saved up and aren't paying off any high interest debt before playing poker imo.

Play tight pre. Bet your own hands. Bet for thin value. Don't trick yourself into thinking that someone might be bluffing. If you get that down, you will probably have at least 80% of winrate of the best 1/2 player in the room.

The best goals are to find spots where you are commonly making mistakes and set goals based on not making those mistakes. The Mental Game of Poker has some great stuff on goal setting.

Honestly? Take $1000 and just start playing. If you bust, no big deal. Wait a while and re-buy. Trying to squirrel away $4k in a bank before even hitting the tables is overkill.

First 100 hours, focus on playing with a plan. Decide what you want to do with a hand before you do it. Why are you limping with T8o? What are you going to do if you you get re-raised in a given spot. Etc. Planning is a good habit.

I generally think playing a little more snug than you might otherwise early on is good too. Get back into rhythm of playing the game, reading hands and boards, paying attention to opponents, calculating odds, all that stuff. Don't try anything "fancy".

I mean how much money would you recommend I set aside from my life roll to begin to play 20-25 hours weekly. The game I'm intending on play is 2/2/3, it's pretty high rakes but, it's a good game to build a BR from.


I am, and that is why saving up a little extra money is taking longer. However, paying off student loan is first priority, but I'm also trying to squeeze in poker, build a BR.



The most common issue of mine has been winner's tilt tbqh. I'm a calm demeanor and generally live in the moment type of guy in general so I don't have tilt issues that makes me play bad. If I'm up, say a buy-in or two, my brain start to suggest that I should get up and leave. Which is why i picked up the mental game of poker... So I think it's a good idea to set mini goals around this issue first and foremost.

This is can do! I have saved up a little over what you suggested, and taking that out and even busting that will not effect my well being.

If it's solely poker money, then yea go for it as long as you have enough to not play scared.

In order to answer your question, you would have to answer few assumptions.

First assumption is that you are actually a winning poker player. A losing player would need to consider how much he's losing per hour, and then multiply that by 20-25. Most players are probably losing at the rate of $30 - $40/hr, so if you are a losing player, your weekly roll would probably need to be around $1000 to sustain your new gambling habit.

Second assumption is your win rate. If you are winning marginally, then your roll should be able to sustain the variance of being a marginal player. I would probably put it at somewhere around 10 to 15 BI as a marginal player.

Third assumption is that you're a crusher. If you are one of the better players that could be crushing the game at 7 - 10bb/hr, and we can probably guess that you are not by the fact that you posted the question in the first place, then you should refer back to the first two assumptions.

So for you, I would probably consider $1000/week or $4000/month as starter, and if you lose that, you shouldn't consider playing poker as anything but hobby.

You are trying to run when you haven't even figured out how to crawl.

Very few people are self-aware, and that is why it's called tilt. Everyone tilts and people who say that they do not tilt are usually oblivious of their own emotion or in denial.

For someone who hasn't even played enough poker to know whether you can even win money, you don't know what tilt is.

It's actually not called winner's tilt.

Winner's tilt is someone who starts to spew and play wildly aggressive because he's up a lot of money and feels that he can do whatever he wants.

Someone who's afraid of losing back the "profit" is simply scared money. Part of that fear is that you are unconsciously aware that you are not able to "protect" profit.

Anyhow, some harsh words, but I think anyone who's setting up positive outlooks for someone asking your kind of questions is doing you a big disservice.

That 1/2 winrate is literally unbelievable. WTF.

I'd never discourage a -$4000/mo player from sitting as often as possible.

I'd agree that it's scared money (my bad for using the wrong term), I've always been under rolled so that was always in the back of my mind while being at the table. Which obviously is not the best mind set. But having a full time job will help in this area.

I'm not new to the game. I'd say in the last 4 years i've played less than 1,000 hours with big gaps, it's been inconsistent play, but I've had my ups and downs. With enough volume I'd say I can be a marginal winner at the game for now. With additional work off the table I'm sure soon I can a decent winner.

Anyways, I'll try my shots with $1,000, nit it up the first 100 or so hours, find some leaks, post on here, and set a new mini goals.

Thanks for the input

I'm not I the coaching forum but am currently coaching/staking one person putting in light volume. If actually interested feel free to pm if its not against the rules.