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Old 10-08-2015, 05:34 PM   #11226
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Streakin, all 1/3.

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8/21/20157.72$1,280.00
8/26/20155.68$1,617.00
9/1/20154.43$203.00
9/9/20155.88$77.00
9/16/20155.30$390.00
9/23/20155.00$816.00
9/30/20156.17$550.00
10/3/20154.47$170.00
10/7/20155.53$2,022.00
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:19 PM   #11227
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Bip posts really good info.

If anyone is focused on balance at 2/5 and below they are doing it wrong. Especially with stacks <200bbs.

Every fiber of energy should be used to study the weird unbalanced lines live players like to take and exploit them.

Many here think they value bet pretty thin but they probably don't. And they sure as hell do not bluff enough in the right spots or bluff catch really light like they should.

The guys who you should be worried about balance against are like unicorns in live poker 2/5 and below.
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:16 PM   #11228
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I have just moved up to play $2/$4 400 NL on the 12th of Sept and would like to share my results! I totally understand I am most likely on a mad heater because my 1/3 results was significantly under this. (6bb/hr over ~300 hours)





I actually have played everyday hence the mad volume, but I am starting to feel a very strong lack of motivation, I went into mad tilt yesterday and spewed a buy in because I just wanted to leave (i promptly did leave! but I was not very bright for wasting a buy in)
Motivation tips?
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:22 PM   #11229
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Filtered out date range since I don't want a bunch of people telling me to play more poker. I play primarily online. Discussed this to death in my thread and not playing a ton is a big contributing factor to my winrate. Filtered out the bankroll number since it's a completely irrelevant number that doesn't reflect my actual bankroll or life roll. My "bankroll" is about 20k for day to day poker stuff. Sample size is from when I lost my iphone sometime last year.

Just went through my Iphone today and realized how much better I have gotten at poker since sometime last year when I decided to start studying and playing primarily online.

I'm in Las Vegas, the worst place to be a professional poker player, but the best place to live.

in be4 fish on a heater

Last 500hrs of poker, mostly 2/5


Last 850hrs, all I have on my phone from sometime last year when I lost my old phone.


Last 600hrs of 2/5 only.


5/10 only
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:25 PM   #11230
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w0w, sooo envious! >.< you crusher, you!
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:26 PM   #11231
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nice results Rob. congrats!
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:27 PM   #11232
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I actually have played everyday hence the mad volume, but I am starting to feel a very strong lack of motivation, I went into mad tilt yesterday and spewed a buy in because I just wanted to leave (i promptly did leave! but I was not very bright for wasting a buy in)
Motivation tips?
Motivation is fleeting, it comes and goes, it is often dependent on getting caught up in something bigger than yourself. What you need is determination. Determination is what you rely on when motivation rears its ugly head and walks out on you.
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:34 PM   #11233
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:11 PM   #11234
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Old 10-08-2015, 10:06 PM   #11235
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Old 10-09-2015, 01:16 AM   #11236
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I have just moved up to play $2/$4 400 NL on the 12th of Sept and would like to share my results! I totally understand I am most likely on a mad heater because my 1/3 results was significantly under this. (6bb/hr over ~300 hours)





I actually have played everyday hence the mad volume, but I am starting to feel a very strong lack of motivation, I went into mad tilt yesterday and spewed a buy in because I just wanted to leave (i promptly did leave! but I was not very bright for wasting a buy in)
Motivation tips?
With a heater like this, you're easily tipping $3 pr hour, so your net win rate is ~$32.00
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Old 10-09-2015, 02:41 AM   #11237
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Fish on an extended 2015 heater...need more volume though, been busy with work. 1/2 is easy.

2015 total, 1/2, 1/3, 2/5




1/2




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Old 10-09-2015, 03:12 AM   #11238
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Wj,

Plz to haz yer coachin sir
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Old 10-09-2015, 03:58 AM   #11239
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outstanding results wj
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:03 AM   #11240
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Thanks. There's some OFC results in the total for the year so overall hourly is kind of off.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:48 AM   #11241
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Thanks. There's some OFC results in the total for the year so overall hourly is kind of off.
Good lord.. I have never seen results like this. Where in the world are you finding games that juicy? I don't think there is enough money on the table at my local games to even have a chance at that kind of hourly!
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Old 10-09-2015, 09:40 AM   #11242
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Thanks. There's some OFC results in the total for the year so overall hourly is kind of off.
No need to include, from what I hear, nobody pays in OFC, nobody collects either haha
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:15 PM   #11243
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Sick results by RF and WJ. Nice!

G$11.00/hrover402hoursof1/3NLin2015,ugG
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:38 PM   #11244
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Fish on an extended 2015 heater...need more volume though, been busy with work. 1/2 is easy.

2015 total, 1/2, 1/3, 2/5




1/2




1/3




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Greatest 1/2 player in the world
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Old 10-09-2015, 01:49 PM   #11245
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Good lord.. I have never seen results like this. Where in the world are you finding games that juicy? I don't think there is enough money on the table at my local games to even have a chance at that kind of hourly!

Almost all of the 1/2 is at Red Rock, 1/3 mostly at Wynn, 2/5 mostly at Aria and Red Rock...RobFarha also shat all over my winrate, dude's in boss mode
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Old 10-09-2015, 02:37 PM   #11246
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Hey guys,

Long time lurker, so forgive me if this is the wrong place to post this. I just "Four years and still having losing session" thread and thought I'd post my situation here as oppose to making a thread.

A very brief over view about me. I'm in my mid 20s, been playing live poker on and off for 3-4 yeas now, but never played consistently for more than (I'm guessing really) 2 months straight or roughly 60+ hours straight. During this time I've had winning and losing sessions; however, I've never put in long enough volume to really judge whether I can beat 1-2 1-3 game.

lack of bank roll has been a major issue for me due to being in college, working part time, etc. Now, I landed a full time job, saving up to move out, and also trying to save up for a poker roll.

I've been playing turbo tournies here and there (cashed in 2 out of my last 3 but that was likely do to good variance since these are turbos) and cash games here and there, and I'm noticing the rust, lack of stamina to put in a sessions over 4 hours, winners tilt, and getting foggy brained in some tough spots.

So questions for you guys in my situation.

What kind of BR should I save up for before playing part time (20-25 hours a week) playing 1-2 and 1-3?

How should I approach the game let's say the first 100 hours or so?

What are some effective mini session, weekly and monthly goals are helpful to building a BR and staying in the game long terms?

Thanks for any advice guys, sorry for the TL;DR

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- And just picked up The Psychology of poker after reading Off the table analysis COTM

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Old 10-09-2015, 03:21 PM   #11247
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What kind of BR should I save up for before playing part time (20-25 hours a week) playing 1-2 and 1-3?
Not exactly sure what you mean by this. You can start playing as long as you have enough poker money to buy in for your desired depth and enough money behind to not play poorly because your worried about busting out for the night.

Standard financial guidance applies though. Make sure you have some emergency money saved up and aren't paying off any high interest debt before playing poker imo.

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How should I approach the game let's say the first 100 hours or so?
Play tight pre. Bet your own hands. Bet for thin value. Don't trick yourself into thinking that someone might be bluffing. If you get that down, you will probably have at least 80% of winrate of the best 1/2 player in the room.

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What are some effective mini session, weekly and monthly goals are helpful to building a BR and staying in the game long terms?

Thanks for any advice guys, sorry for the TL;DR

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The best goals are to find spots where you are commonly making mistakes and set goals based on not making those mistakes. The Mental Game of Poker has some great stuff on goal setting.
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Old 10-09-2015, 03:36 PM   #11248
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Now, I landed a full time job, saving up to move out, and also trying to save up for a poker roll.

What kind of BR should I save up for before playing part time (20-25 hours a week) playing 1-2 and 1-3?

How should I approach the game let's say the first 100 hours or so?
Honestly? Take $1000 and just start playing. If you bust, no big deal. Wait a while and re-buy. Trying to squirrel away $4k in a bank before even hitting the tables is overkill.

First 100 hours, focus on playing with a plan. Decide what you want to do with a hand before you do it. Why are you limping with T8o? What are you going to do if you you get re-raised in a given spot. Etc. Planning is a good habit.

I generally think playing a little more snug than you might otherwise early on is good too. Get back into rhythm of playing the game, reading hands and boards, paying attention to opponents, calculating odds, all that stuff. Don't try anything "fancy".
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Old 10-09-2015, 03:41 PM   #11249
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Not exactly sure what you mean by this. You can start playing as long as you have enough poker money to buy in for your desired depth and enough money behind to not play poorly because your worried about busting out for the night.


Standard financial guidance applies though. Make sure you have some emergency money saved up and aren't paying off any high interest debt before playing poker imo.



Play tight pre. Bet your own hands. Bet for thin value. Don't trick yourself into thinking that someone might be bluffing. If you get that down, you will probably have at least 80% of winrate of the best 1/2 player in the room.



The best goals are to find spots where you are commonly making mistakes and set goals based on not making those mistakes. The Mental Game of Poker has some great stuff on goal setting.


I mean how much money would you recommend I set aside from my life roll to begin to play 20-25 hours weekly. The game I'm intending on play is 2/2/3, it's pretty high rakes but, it's a good game to build a BR from.


I am, and that is why saving up a little extra money is taking longer. However, paying off student loan is first priority, but I'm also trying to squeeze in poker, build a BR.



The most common issue of mine has been winner's tilt tbqh. I'm a calm demeanor and generally live in the moment type of guy in general so I don't have tilt issues that makes me play bad. If I'm up, say a buy-in or two, my brain start to suggest that I should get up and leave. Which is why i picked up the mental game of poker... So I think it's a good idea to set mini goals around this issue first and foremost.
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Old 10-09-2015, 03:44 PM   #11250
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Honestly? Take $1000 and just start playing. If you bust, no big deal. Wait a while and re-buy. Trying to squirrel away $4k in a bank before even hitting the tables is overkill.

First 100 hours, focus on playing with a plan. Decide what you want to do with a hand before you do it. Why are you limping with T8o? What are you going to do if you you get re-raised in a given spot. Etc. Planning is a good habit.

I generally think playing a little more snug than you might otherwise early on is good too. Get back into rhythm of playing the game, reading hands and boards, paying attention to opponents, calculating odds, all that stuff. Don't try anything "fancy".
This is can do! I have saved up a little over what you suggested, and taking that out and even busting that will not effect my well being.
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