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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

08-24-2015 , 09:20 AM
In unrelated news, it's about to be another bloodbath on Wall Street today and I couldn't be more excited
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08-24-2015 , 11:43 AM
So, I used to think that my swingy sessions were a result of the game I was playing IN, and not MY playing style. I tried out a different location and here are the last 5 sessions. the heck is wrong with me? All 1/3:

Hours Profit
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
5.68 $1,220.00
3.93 ($1,000.00)
5.00 $0.00
7.72 $1,280.00
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08-24-2015 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
So, I used to think that my swingy sessions were a result of the game I was playing IN, and not MY playing style. I tried out a different location and here are the last 5 sessions. the heck is wrong with me? All 1/3:

Hours Profit
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
5.68 $1,220.00
3.93 ($1,000.00)
5.00 $0.00
7.72 $1,280.00
something as little as your appearance or demeanor can make people spew towards you tbh, but if you "bluff" in good spots people will react and most react badly, wherever you play
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08-24-2015 , 12:48 PM
Hahah not sure anything is wrong with you. Your probably not on the TAG/nitty end of the spectrum. My guess would be you play your draws aggressively.
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08-24-2015 , 12:51 PM
I'm thinking he doesn't wait for draws to go full aggro.
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08-24-2015 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by xxcardshark5
For 1/3, my stats for the past year (8/1/2014-7/31/2015) are $5,523 over 320 hours for an approximate rate of $17.30/hr. W-L is 40-23.

However, my roll was at $7,000 in June. So over the past 90 hours I played in June and July I lost almost $1500. One of my biggest leaks was overplaying TPTK and overpairs, paying off two pair and sets when the villains were showing obvious strength. But these leaks certainly didn't define the entirety of this stretch. I adjusted my play accordingly, but continued to run poor.

My confidence is pretty low at this point so an objective opinion would be appreciated. $1500 over 90 hours is a lot in my opinion. Or should I get over it and continue playing as these numbers aren't meaningful til I get to 1000 hours....
Congrats on your winning ways.

FWIW, both of my biggest downswings at 1/3 NL I lost a lot more than $1500 in a lot shorter period than 90 hours. It just takes losing a few really big pots to get slaughtered pretty quickly.

GcluelessslaughterednoobG
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08-24-2015 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
So, I used to think that my swingy sessions were a result of the game I was playing IN, and not MY playing style. I tried out a different location and here are the last 5 sessions. the heck is wrong with me? All 1/3:

Hours Profit
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
5.68 $1,220.00
3.93 ($1,000.00)
5.00 $0.00
7.72 $1,280.00
Ha, you and me, we play different styles! I have to go back 26 sessions to find any win/loss as big+ as $865, and my sessions are way longer than yours. Lolz.

Glol,yourwaylookstowinalotmoremoney,atleastbasedon thoseresultsG
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08-24-2015 , 07:29 PM
What is the maximum amount of cash I can put into my bank account every month that won't get looked at by the IRS that I don't have to report as income? My accountant once said something about there was a $14,000 (this number could be wrong) gift exception of money you can get from family members per year tax-free.

Therefore does this mean the maximum amount I can deposit is $14k of my poker earnings each year without having to report it?

Background on me if it matters: I own a small business is my only official source of income. I currently keep all my poker earnings in cash in a safe and spend it via cash without ever letting it touch my bank. What is the most I can put in my bank safely each month/year?
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08-24-2015 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Havax
What is the maximum amount of cash I can put into my bank account every month that won't get looked at by the IRS that I don't have to report as income? My accountant once said something about there was a $14,000 (this number could be wrong) gift exception of money you can get from family members per year tax-free.

Therefore does this mean the maximum amount I can deposit is $14k of my poker earnings each year without having to report it?

Background on me if it matters: I own a small business is my only official source of income. I currently keep all my poker earnings in cash in a safe and spend it via cash without ever letting it touch my bank. What is the most I can put in my bank safely each month/year?
The first person I would ask is your accountant.
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08-24-2015 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Havax
What is the maximum amount of cash I can put into my bank account every month that won't get looked at by the IRS that I don't have to report as income? My accountant once said something about there was a $14,000 (this number could be wrong) gift exception of money you can get from family members per year tax-free.

Therefore does this mean the maximum amount I can deposit is $14k of my poker earnings each year without having to report it?

Background on me if it matters: I own a small business is my only official source of income. I currently keep all my poker earnings in cash in a safe and spend it via cash without ever letting it touch my bank. What is the most I can put in my bank safely each month/year?

The 14k is an estate tax issue that has nothing to do with the deposit regs.

I don't follow this very closely but my understanding is 10k within any 30 day period warrants a reporting by the bank. It has nothing to do with a calendar month. It's a rolling 30 day period. But I could be wrong on that.

And you have to report all income whether you deposit it or not. The deposit obv creates a cash trail though
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08-24-2015 , 08:05 PM
Look up "structuring".

(and no that is not a solution, but it answers your question)
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08-24-2015 , 08:27 PM
what cronchop sed

it appears u are asking how to avoid giving our great nation your fair share of taxes which is an ill advised act. I would start by asking a moderator to delete your post
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08-24-2015 , 11:44 PM
I don't believe in theft (income taxation). I am not the immoral one, the state is. We could argue that in a different thread. Thanks for the advice everyone else.
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08-24-2015 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Havax
I don't believe in theft (income taxation). I am not the immoral one, the state is. We could argue that in a different thread. Thanks for the advice everyone else.

lol welp...good luck with that
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08-25-2015 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Havax
I don't believe in theft (income taxation). I am not the immoral one, the state is. We could argue that in a different thread. Thanks for the advice everyone else.
Like they give a **** about morality
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08-25-2015 , 12:12 AM
And it's 10k cash at any given time causes a cash transaction report to be filed, whether or not your bank would do anything about 10k in a month is more of less a question of whether or not they think you are trying to dodge the IRS.

But a most basic audit will **** you regardless.

Here's the truth: any income that leaves a paper trail needs to be reported if you don't want to risk a serious fist ****ing.
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08-25-2015 , 01:13 AM
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08-25-2015 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Havax
I don't believe in theft (income taxation). I am not the immoral one, the state is. We could argue that in a different thread. Thanks for the advice everyone else.
they cant tax what is in a safety deposit box. you get basically the same interest rate and less hassle.
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08-25-2015 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kekeeke
something as little as your appearance or demeanor can make people spew towards you tbh, but if you "bluff" in good spots people will react and most react badly, wherever you play
Yeah, actually for the past couple months I've been wearing sunglasses while playing (its actually pretty bright in the room) which I think is getting me more action on average. I'm also a young looking dude which helps.

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Originally Posted by progress
Hahah not sure anything is wrong with you. Your probably not on the TAG/nitty end of the spectrum. My guess would be you play your draws aggressively.
95% of the time yes.

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Originally Posted by suited fours
I'm thinking he doesn't wait for draws to go full aggro.
95% of the time also this.

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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Ha, you and me, we play different styles! I have to go back 26 sessions to find any win/loss as big+ as $865, and my sessions are way longer than yours. Lolz.

Glol,yourwaylookstowinalotmoremoney,atleastbasedon thoseresultsG
550 hours of 1/2 and 1/3 and I'm at over $56/hour. I just looked at all of my sessions in 2015 and about 1 out of 3 (30%) of them are plus or minus $900 or more, average session length 5.24 hours.
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08-25-2015 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Havax
What is the maximum amount of cash I can put into my bank account every month that won't get looked at by the IRS that I don't have to report as income? My accountant once said something about there was a $14,000 (this number could be wrong) gift exception of money you can get from family members per year tax-free.

Therefore does this mean the maximum amount I can deposit is $14k of my poker earnings each year without having to report it?

Background on me if it matters: I own a small business is my only official source of income. I currently keep all my poker earnings in cash in a safe and spend it via cash without ever letting it touch my bank. What is the most I can put in my bank safely each month/year?
I'm guessing it's a car wash?
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08-25-2015 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
550 hours of 1/2 and 1/3 and I'm at over $56/hour. I just looked at all of my sessions in 2015 and about 1 out of 3 (30%) of them are plus or minus $900 or more, average session length 5.24 hours.
My best advice is to play more.
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08-25-2015 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by suited fours
I'm guessing it's a car wash?
i'm gonna go with Laundromat (less time needed to be there)
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08-25-2015 , 10:17 AM
Got a glimpse of something that you won't see posted as a brag in the usual BR post....

Profile of an 8bb/hr loser.

I saw something rather fascinating this weekend. Fascinating because rarely can you confirm via data such things and are left to only speculation in live poker.

A loosing 1/3 player was showing his results to another player at the table. I actually took a pic of his screen (Johnny buzz can confirm as I texted it to him). It was a sea of red.

Over 1k hrs at 1/3 this player is more than -23k or -$23.50/hr. He loses 2/3 of his sessions (he claims that's improved from winning 20%) and has a std dev $186/hr.

Some bullet points:

-He usually buys in short often $100-$200 in a $500 cap game.
-on the rare occasion he builds a stack he goes south when he table changes. Or quits.
-His pf hand range is better than the avg LLSNL player but he does call raises for too much of his stack then fold missed flops.
-he blows People out of pots when he flops an overpair regardless of stack size. He protects his hand at all costs including over committing when deeper when he's out flopped.
-he bombs way ahead / way behind spots when he thinks he's ahead (senses weakness) and chk/ folds when he thinks he's behind (scared of board or senses strength). So he constantly misses value by folding the best med strength hands or over betting and folding all worse hands while paying off better with premiums or flopped big hands with a small equity edge that turned bad.
-he set mines with hopelessly bad implied odds.
-he mostly seems terrified of turns and rivers.
-he mostly never bluffs.
-he is attempting to avoid variance.
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08-25-2015 , 10:31 AM
^ confirmed sighting at 3am as I was wallowing in my own 2/5 misery thinking things couldn't get much worse. it provided a modicum of relief
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08-25-2015 , 10:40 AM
surprising that the guy was honest enough to track these losing results over 1K hands. I feel like most losing players would either quit or delude themselves into thinking they aren't losing as much as they are.
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