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[OFFICIAL] Winrates, bankrolls, and finances

View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr

Less than 0 (losing)

5 6.41%

0-2.5

0 0%

2.5-5

6 7.69%

5-7.5

8 10.26%

7.5-10

15 19.23%

10+

26 33.33%

Not enough sample size/I don't know

18 23.08%

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01-13-2015 , 08:17 PM

#8651

bip!

Slow Pony

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 14,205

Lol - kind of. More like take on a more valuable debate... or at least a more sensational one

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01-13-2015 , 09:28 PM

#8652

zoltan

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21,490

tl;dr
cliffs: jerryj0nes can buy in for 100bb, not much worry of running so bad he goes busto given rooms he's playing.

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01-13-2015 , 09:39 PM

#8653

Snowball2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,640

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker

Are you trying to say that opportunity cost of your time is higher than mine?

Well, EAD...

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Originally Posted by bip!

Lol - kind of. More like take on a more valuable debate... or at least a more sensational one

CoC time wasted itt

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01-13-2015 , 11:16 PM

#8654

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

SB2, you like coc?

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01-14-2015 , 12:59 AM

#8655

Phatty

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,913

FWIW shortstacking live sounds incredibly stupid to me and I've only ever seen it done by the fishiest of players. It's pretty stupid online, too but mind numbingly stupid live.

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01-14-2015 , 01:00 AM

#8656

bm303

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,980

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Originally Posted by Phatty

FWIW shortstacking live sounds incredibly stupid to me and I've only ever seen it done by the fishiest of players. It's pretty stupid online, too but mind numbingly stupid live.

To clarify, you are referring to someone who buys in short, or someone who understands pot odds, equity and is actually a pro short stacker?

Every player who buys in short is a fish because they are playing normal poker just with a small stack.

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01-14-2015 , 01:00 AM

#8657

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

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Originally Posted by Phatty

FWIW shortstacking live sounds incredibly stupid to me and I've only ever seen it done by the fishiest of players. It's pretty stupid online, too but mind numbingly stupid live.

I would never short stack ever again, just so someone as awesome as Phatty wouldn't think I am incredibly stupid.

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01-14-2015 , 01:32 AM

#8658

NeverLosesAtPoker

banned

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 4,448

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Originally Posted by Phatty

FWIW shortstacking live sounds incredibly stupid to me and I've only ever seen it done by the fishiest of players. It's pretty stupid online, too but mind numbingly stupid live.

LoL @ it's stupid to you. Why would it be stupid to short stack online? There are players that have made millions of dollars short stacking online. If the goal is to make lots of money, not sure why you would find that stupid.

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01-14-2015 , 01:38 AM

#8659

Phatty

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,913

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Originally Posted by bm303

There are no live short stackers to my knowledge and if there are, they're stupid IMO because they can earn more with a full stack.

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01-14-2015 , 11:19 AM

#8660

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

I've only ever met one short stacker who had even a little clue. That kid was a tourney player who didn't know how to play over 40bb. And even he wasn't very good.

What happened to this thread? My god.

Why can't you build a roll at $1/2? I'm proof that you can. I built mine from $0 at $1/2. Played off a stake for a bit then worked it up. Didn't take too long. Now I play $2/5 when I can. I couldn't have jumped to $2/5 right away. If I lost it all I wasn't prepared to rebuy for several months.

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01-14-2015 , 11:44 AM

#8661

NeverLosesAtPoker

banned

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 4,448

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Originally Posted by spikeraw22

I've only ever met one short stacker who had even a little clue. That kid was a tourney player who didn't know how to play over 40bb. And even he wasn't very good.

If you've played much with tournament players you'll realize most of them play like short stacks, even when they have 100+ bbs. They really have no clue lol

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01-15-2015 , 05:47 AM

#8662

degi11

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 120

Hi its worth to play 1/1 with 20 cap rake ?
Its beatable with this rake?

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01-15-2015 , 05:52 AM

#8663

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Read stickies before posting.

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01-15-2015 , 09:53 AM

#8664

GatorXP

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,887

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Originally Posted by spikeraw22

What happened to this thread? My god.

Cliffs:

Gator mentions you can buy in short at a bigger game, reduce rake impact...etc....and still be profitable and move up faster.

Mob Yells "Short Stacking Scum" Grabs Pitch Forks etc.

Richard Parker whips out his E-Peen.

Carry on....

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01-15-2015 , 05:38 PM

#8665

UCDLaCrosse

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,903

How normal are 2k downers in live 1/3?

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01-15-2015 , 05:57 PM

#8666

LolPony

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,126

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Originally Posted by UCDLaCrosse

How normal are 2k downers in live 1/3?

I mean not super normal but not unheard of. I've had 3 1500-1800 downswings at 1/2 over a couple thousand hours.

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01-15-2015 , 06:40 PM

#8667

ZippyThePinhead

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 948

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Originally Posted by UCDLaCrosse

How normal are 2k downers in live 1/3?

It can happen. I play 1/2 and always buy in for max of 300. Last 10 days started with a +1900 session, followed by -1000 across a few sessions due to primarily a few key huge key hands.

77<a,10 on a,10,7 flop for 750 pot
10,10<a,8 on j,rag,rag flop for 650 pot
77<J,8 on 6,7,10 flop for 550 pot

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01-15-2015 , 07:02 PM

#8668

gobbledygeek

Poet Laureate of LLSNL

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 36,150

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Originally Posted by UCDLaCrosse

How normal are 2k downers in live 1/3?

I'm guessing not too common for winning players, but certainly possible.

In ~2,074 hours at 1/3 NL, I've only gone on a 2K+ downswing once (bottoming out at $2,866, fun times, fun times).

GbutIalsoplayinagreatgame,andrungood,sothathelpsG

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01-15-2015 , 08:05 PM

#8669

squid face

ChatThreadPrez

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,480

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Originally Posted by UCDLaCrosse

How normal are 2k downers in live 1/3?

how much u buying in for?

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01-15-2015 , 08:56 PM

#8670

D0UGHBOY

Self Rising

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,633

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Originally Posted by squid face

how much u buying in for?

Bout tree fiddy

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01-15-2015 , 09:17 PM

#8671

lukeamac

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 272

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Originally Posted by D0UGHBOY

Bout tree fiddy

Tree fiddy? Damn it monster!

Sent from my SM-N900 using 2+2 Forums

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01-15-2015 , 10:31 PM

#8672

squid face

ChatThreadPrez

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 11,480

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Originally Posted by D0UGHBOY

Bout tree fiddy

If this is the case 6 buy ins is a reasonable ds...any more and I'd start looking at my game for tilt and serious leaks. More than 10 bi and I'd say we have some issues

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01-15-2015 , 10:34 PM

#8673

D0UGHBOY

Self Rising

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,633

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Originally Posted by squid face

If this is the case 6 buy ins is a reasonable ds...any more and I'd start looking at my game for tilt and serious leaks. More than 10 bi and I'd say we have some issues

Your services are needed in lvl. Some guy and his wife are looking for memories.

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01-15-2015 , 11:59 PM

#8674

Nozsr

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 1,722

Doesn't take much "3-betting light" to increase our variance, no matter where we play.

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01-16-2015 , 12:18 AM

#8675

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,524

I moved this question in here, and it promptly got lost in the SS bickering. Please to be answering max_potter's question, those of you who are stats types:

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Hello all,

I am a cash game player (live), and I played a lot last year for about 12 months.
I usually played 2/4 no limit HE in France, and occasionally went to LV or London. During this year, I recorded all my result on the Poker Manager app.
Then it gave me the following stats :
- Hours played : 1200 H
- Winrate : 10bb/H => 40bb/100 or 20BB/100 (100 hands equals 4H)
- Standard déviation : 62bb/H => 250bb/100 or 125BB/100
- Percentual Wins/Losses : 59/41

My standard deviation seems huge to me… What does that mean ? Do I play too Lag ? Because I don’t have this impression, even though I like 3-betting light sometimes and play aggressively enough during my sessions.

Thx for your opinions !

FYI, I decided to stop playing so much last september because I was not that happy with this activity, but I keep playing once or twice a week !

FWIW, my tracker only measures Standard Deviation per session, which is right at 100bb/session, and my average session length is 4 hours. I really don't know what that implies though, either for me or for OP of the question.

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