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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

05-29-2014 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tercet
What would have a higher hourly?

5/5$ (200$-1000$) on PokerTek Tables (50-70h /hr)
5/10$ (500$-2000$) Standard dealer table (20-30h/hr
Some electronic tables take rake from uncalled bets if the rake hasn't maxed out yet. I'd check on that and factor it in.
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05-29-2014 , 06:32 PM
I have another interesting question.

Would a 1-2 game where people overbet preflop (such as 12-15 preflop) be better than a standard 2-5 with 3x preflop raise to 15? Since I can see more hands for a cheaper price and when I do I can bet 6-8bb with a call most of the time?

Plus the 1-2 game is 20 minutes away while the 2-5 is about an hour and 15 minutes away. So that is a huge factor as well.

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05-29-2014 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bweezy90
I have another interesting question.

Would a 1-2 game where people overbet preflop (such as 12-15 preflop) be better than a standard 2-5 with 3x preflop raise to 15? Since I can see more hands for a cheaper price and when I do I can bet 6-8bb with a call most of the time?

Plus the 1-2 game is 20 minutes away while the 2-5 is about an hour and 15 minutes away. So that is a huge factor as well.

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I think a much bigger factor is the average stack size and willingness to get all in. If the $1/2 players are $400 deep and punting off buy-ins it'll be better than a $2/5 with $400 stacks where the showdown hand quality is higher.
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05-29-2014 , 09:14 PM
I agree. But the stacks are on average 150 or so. Even if the stack sizes are 1/3 the size, the frequency of them moving all in and being willingness to gamble would make it more profitable in the short run I guess. I usually play there and usually play 3-4 hour sessions. Its either im up 3x my buyin witin a few hours or slowly going down.

What im thinking is that if the frequency of villians going all in is 2x higher and most of the time with a very wide range. I can expect to win big, but also experience a lot of variance.

Any thoughts?

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05-30-2014 , 04:24 AM
here in the Gold Coast the rake is ridiculous, 10% capped at $20 for 2/3
does anyone think its beatable?
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05-30-2014 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Run2Vegas
here in the Gold Coast the rake is ridiculous, 10% capped at $20 for 2/3
does anyone think its beatable?
Doubtful.
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05-31-2014 , 04:53 PM
What is the best live poker app for iphone? Sorry, googled, but many choices and I figured this was best place to ask. Ty
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05-31-2014 , 05:56 PM
Poker Journal. Sigh it's been said so many times in this thread alone.
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05-31-2014 , 09:07 PM
How does one account for Bad Beat Jackpot in thier results? I won 750$ table share last night and tempted to add that to my amount cashed out last night since it kinda counters the BBJP drop on every hand the casino takes and table share won't wildly skew my results like winning $15k as the hands loser would.

Also would 5-5 be more or less profitable than 2-5 if both have the same buy-in?

Thanks

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05-31-2014 , 10:17 PM
I suspect all things being equal 2/5 would be more profitable since you aren't forced to put an extra $3 in the pot from the worst position every orbit. Just because the max buyin is the same doesnt mean the avg buyins are the same. If 5/5 plays deeper and 2/5 is riddled with shortstacking nits i would rather play 5/5.
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06-01-2014 , 04:33 AM
Welp, May is booked. Played 9 sessions of $1-$2, average length 1.92 hours. All winners. Total winnings: $1351, for a long term sustainable winrate of $78.32. I hope I can get a bit more volume in during June. Especially since I'll have 4 nights in Vegas without the wife...
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06-01-2014 , 05:40 AM
Hey guys!

Was wondering if it was appropriate to talk about shot taking here.

I play 1/2 fulltime and avg around $15/hr.

I have 7k in cash and a few thousand dollars in some investments I would like to protect.

What do you guys think about taking a shot at 2/5 or 5/5?
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06-01-2014 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Hey guys!

Was wondering if it was appropriate to talk about shot taking here.

I play 1/2 fulltime and avg around $15/hr.

I have 7k in cash and a few thousand dollars in some investments I would like to protect.

What do you guys think about taking a shot at 2/5 or 5/5?
Full time like its your job?

I didn't shot take 2/5 until I got to $9k because my base comfort level to grind 1/3 was 20bi ($6k) + 3month expenses ($3k)

Just figure out your base comfort level for grinding 1/2 and any time you have excess money, use it to play 2/5
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06-01-2014 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke0424
Full time like its your job?

I didn't shot take 2/5 until I got to $9k because my base comfort level to grind 1/3 was 20bi ($6k) + 3month expenses ($3k)

Just figure out your base comfort level for grinding 1/2 and any time you have excess money, use it to play 2/5
Yes, 90% of my income comes from poker.

Was/is that your roll for playing professionally/full-time?

Do you think im being too conservative?
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06-01-2014 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Yes, 90% of my income comes from poker.

Was/is that your roll for playing professionally/full-time?

Do you think im being too conservative?
Just figure out what you're comfortable with to play 1/2 full time. Its probably going to be 20-30BI + 3-6 months expenses. Whatever you're comfortable with. I can't tell you whats too conservative.

Once you have that, any time you have more money than that use it for 2/5
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06-01-2014 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Poker Journal. Sigh it's been said so many times in this thread alone.
I've been reading that Poker Journal (which I use) does not work with iOS 7 - and I have avoided upgrading my phone as a result - is this not true?

Last edited by AlienBoy; 06-01-2014 at 07:27 AM.
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06-01-2014 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AlienBoy
I've been reading that Poker Journal (which I use) does not work with iOS 7 - and I have avoided upgrading my phone as a result - is this not true?
It WAS true, but they fixed the flaw ages ago. Works just fine now.
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06-01-2014 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Hey guys!

Was wondering if it was appropriate to talk about shot taking here.

I play 1/2 fulltime and avg around $15/hr.

I have 7k in cash and a few thousand dollars in some investments I would like to protect.

What do you guys think about taking a shot at 2/5 or 5/5?
You need way more $ if you are playing full time to shot take, and even to play 1/2 for a living.

Realistically you want 2,000 to 4,000 bb + 6 months income
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06-01-2014 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
You need way more $ if you are playing full time to shot take, and even to play 1/2 for a living.

Realistically you want 2,000 to 4,000 bb + 6 months income
Right so 7k is 3500 BBs

I have investments for life expenses if necessary.



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06-01-2014 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Right so 7k is 3500 BBs

I have investments for life expenses if necessary.



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Not for 2-5.
7000 is 1400bbs at 2-5.
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06-01-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
Not for 2-5.
7000 is 1400bbs at 2-5.
I thought he was talking about playing 1/2 for a living?

So to take a shot i want 2000-4000 bbs at the stake?
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06-01-2014 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
I thought he was talking about playing 1/2 for a living?

So to take a shot i want 2000-4000 bbs at the stake?
I've always been in big favor of aggressive shot taking (esp from 1-2 to 2-5) time spent at the lower stakes vs potential hourly at 2/5 is huge.

I'd say 20 bi's for 1/2 and 3 months living expenses at the least but if your still playing 1-2 with 30-40BIs you need to be shot taking at the next level. Note that shot taking isn't making it your main game until you lose and drop stakes, again it is table selecting and taking a SHOT and hitting some run good and never looking back.

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06-01-2014 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by beta1607
How does one account for Bad Beat Jackpot in thier results? I won 750$ table share last night and tempted to add that to my amount cashed out last night since it kinda counters the BBJP drop on every hand the casino takes and table share won't wildly skew my results like winning $15k as the hands loser would.

Also would 5-5 be more or less profitable than 2-5 if both have the same buy-in?

Thanks

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Add it to your income, for tax purposes and if you keep track of how much money you have to your name, things like that.

I wouldn't add it to your hourly. To me hourly is a measure of how well you're doing, the BBJ $ will just skew it.
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06-01-2014 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
You need way more $ if you are playing full time to shot take, and even to play 1/2 for a living.

Realistically you want 2,000 to 4,000 bb + 6 months income
I love when people say this lol. Do you think if he had 6 months expenses + another 8grand, he'd be playing 1/2 to earn a living?
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06-03-2014 , 06:04 AM
So, LOL, I'm 6 weeks into this jaunt as a 'pro.'

Suffice it to say, it has gone south in a hurry. Down about $3K in the last 2.5 weeks. I hope it gets better before it gets much worse. Just kind of need to string together a few wins like I did right at the start of this downswing, which includes winning 5 of 6 sessions.

My profit since mid-April including some bonuses for hours, giveaways, is $821. That's almost exactly 1 BB per hour ($3.36/hr) ... FML.

I heard a quote from Limon on his podcast last week that said he believes probably 95 percent of existing pros 'ran hot' when they first started playing poker professionally.

Well, I haven't.

Hoping it turns around later this week. Life roll dwindling, but poker roll still OK.
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