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Old 05-28-2014, 11:03 PM   #7301
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I hate dealing in absolutes regarding winrates. In most cases "it depends." In the casino I play at, the 2/5 games are often more profitable than the 5/10 games (for the average grinder). In fact sometimes the 5/10 games aren't profitable at all unless you are a super sicko. This despite the fact that the max buy-in at 2/5 is $500 and max buy-in at 5/10 is $2000.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:17 PM   #7302
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My May w/r so far is 32bb/hr. Sustainable?

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Old 05-28-2014, 11:41 PM   #7303
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My May w/r so far is 32bb/hr. Sustainable?

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What limit are you playing?

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Old 05-29-2014, 12:05 AM   #7304
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:46 AM   #7305
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If you don't mind me asking, how much was your $/hr for the months of april and may?

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Old 05-29-2014, 01:07 AM   #7306
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If you don't mind me asking, how much was your $/hr for the months of april and may?
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:18 PM   #7307
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What would have a higher hourly?

5/5$ (200$-1000$) on PokerTek Tables (50-70h /hr)
5/10$ (500$-2000$) Standard dealer table (20-30h/hr
Some electronic tables take rake from uncalled bets if the rake hasn't maxed out yet. I'd check on that and factor it in.
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:32 PM   #7308
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I have another interesting question.

Would a 1-2 game where people overbet preflop (such as 12-15 preflop) be better than a standard 2-5 with 3x preflop raise to 15? Since I can see more hands for a cheaper price and when I do I can bet 6-8bb with a call most of the time?

Plus the 1-2 game is 20 minutes away while the 2-5 is about an hour and 15 minutes away. So that is a huge factor as well.

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Old 05-29-2014, 06:41 PM   #7309
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I have another interesting question.

Would a 1-2 game where people overbet preflop (such as 12-15 preflop) be better than a standard 2-5 with 3x preflop raise to 15? Since I can see more hands for a cheaper price and when I do I can bet 6-8bb with a call most of the time?

Plus the 1-2 game is 20 minutes away while the 2-5 is about an hour and 15 minutes away. So that is a huge factor as well.

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I think a much bigger factor is the average stack size and willingness to get all in. If the $1/2 players are $400 deep and punting off buy-ins it'll be better than a $2/5 with $400 stacks where the showdown hand quality is higher.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:14 PM   #7310
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I agree. But the stacks are on average 150 or so. Even if the stack sizes are 1/3 the size, the frequency of them moving all in and being willingness to gamble would make it more profitable in the short run I guess. I usually play there and usually play 3-4 hour sessions. Its either im up 3x my buyin witin a few hours or slowly going down.

What im thinking is that if the frequency of villians going all in is 2x higher and most of the time with a very wide range. I can expect to win big, but also experience a lot of variance.

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Old 05-30-2014, 04:24 AM   #7311
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here in the Gold Coast the rake is ridiculous, 10% capped at $20 for 2/3
does anyone think its beatable?
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Old 05-30-2014, 04:40 AM   #7312
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here in the Gold Coast the rake is ridiculous, 10% capped at $20 for 2/3
does anyone think its beatable?
Doubtful.
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Old 05-31-2014, 04:53 PM   #7313
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What is the best live poker app for iphone? Sorry, googled, but many choices and I figured this was best place to ask. Ty
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Old 05-31-2014, 05:56 PM   #7314
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Poker Journal. Sigh it's been said so many times in this thread alone.
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Old 05-31-2014, 09:07 PM   #7315
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How does one account for Bad Beat Jackpot in thier results? I won 750$ table share last night and tempted to add that to my amount cashed out last night since it kinda counters the BBJP drop on every hand the casino takes and table share won't wildly skew my results like winning $15k as the hands loser would.

Also would 5-5 be more or less profitable than 2-5 if both have the same buy-in?

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Old 05-31-2014, 10:17 PM   #7316
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I suspect all things being equal 2/5 would be more profitable since you aren't forced to put an extra $3 in the pot from the worst position every orbit. Just because the max buyin is the same doesnt mean the avg buyins are the same. If 5/5 plays deeper and 2/5 is riddled with shortstacking nits i would rather play 5/5.
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:33 AM   #7317
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Welp, May is booked. Played 9 sessions of $1-$2, average length 1.92 hours. All winners. Total winnings: $1351, for a long term sustainable winrate of $78.32. I hope I can get a bit more volume in during June. Especially since I'll have 4 nights in Vegas without the wife...
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Old 06-01-2014, 05:40 AM   #7318
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Hey guys!

Was wondering if it was appropriate to talk about shot taking here.

I play 1/2 fulltime and avg around $15/hr.

I have 7k in cash and a few thousand dollars in some investments I would like to protect.

What do you guys think about taking a shot at 2/5 or 5/5?
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Old 06-01-2014, 05:43 AM   #7319
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Hey guys!

Was wondering if it was appropriate to talk about shot taking here.

I play 1/2 fulltime and avg around $15/hr.

I have 7k in cash and a few thousand dollars in some investments I would like to protect.

What do you guys think about taking a shot at 2/5 or 5/5?
Full time like its your job?

I didn't shot take 2/5 until I got to $9k because my base comfort level to grind 1/3 was 20bi ($6k) + 3month expenses ($3k)

Just figure out your base comfort level for grinding 1/2 and any time you have excess money, use it to play 2/5
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Old 06-01-2014, 05:52 AM   #7320
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Full time like its your job?

I didn't shot take 2/5 until I got to $9k because my base comfort level to grind 1/3 was 20bi ($6k) + 3month expenses ($3k)

Just figure out your base comfort level for grinding 1/2 and any time you have excess money, use it to play 2/5
Yes, 90% of my income comes from poker.

Was/is that your roll for playing professionally/full-time?

Do you think im being too conservative?
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Old 06-01-2014, 06:01 AM   #7321
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Yes, 90% of my income comes from poker.

Was/is that your roll for playing professionally/full-time?

Do you think im being too conservative?
Just figure out what you're comfortable with to play 1/2 full time. Its probably going to be 20-30BI + 3-6 months expenses. Whatever you're comfortable with. I can't tell you whats too conservative.

Once you have that, any time you have more money than that use it for 2/5
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:19 AM   #7322
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Poker Journal. Sigh it's been said so many times in this thread alone.
I've been reading that Poker Journal (which I use) does not work with iOS 7 - and I have avoided upgrading my phone as a result - is this not true?

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Old 06-01-2014, 09:38 AM   #7323
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I've been reading that Poker Journal (which I use) does not work with iOS 7 - and I have avoided upgrading my phone as a result - is this not true?
It WAS true, but they fixed the flaw ages ago. Works just fine now.
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:24 PM   #7324
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Hey guys!

Was wondering if it was appropriate to talk about shot taking here.

I play 1/2 fulltime and avg around $15/hr.

I have 7k in cash and a few thousand dollars in some investments I would like to protect.

What do you guys think about taking a shot at 2/5 or 5/5?
You need way more $ if you are playing full time to shot take, and even to play 1/2 for a living.

Realistically you want 2,000 to 4,000 bb + 6 months income
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:45 PM   #7325
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You need way more $ if you are playing full time to shot take, and even to play 1/2 for a living.

Realistically you want 2,000 to 4,000 bb + 6 months income
Right so 7k is 3500 BBs

I have investments for life expenses if necessary.



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