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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

02-05-2013 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by corlath
Mpethy, what percentage of 1/2 sessions would you say your stack goes above 500 from 200? Just curious, as it almost never happens to me--but I'm a nit who buys in for 100 to take advantage of villains' bad preflop selection without having to make many decisions postflop.
yeah, that's your problem.

It's not very common for me to win $300 in a night, but it's not that uncommon, either. Maybe 15%? maybe 10%

Ask WJ94; his answer would be "~all."
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02-05-2013 , 12:25 PM
I think mpethy is providing strong advice.

The other thing you could do is turn your 1/2 money in to $500, pocket the initial $200 buy-in, and freeroll the 2/5 for 60 bb if you're a decent short-stack player.
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02-05-2013 , 12:59 PM
You are not really "freerolling" in that the moment chips enter your stack, they are part of your bankroll and hence your money. I understand how this shot taking technique may help people physiologically tho.
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02-05-2013 , 01:09 PM
This is all great advice. I think I might wait until I get up to around 3k and in the process sit in the 2/5 game anytime my stack goes above 400 and possibly a full shot anytime I see that the game is really soft on weekends. I just am not comfortable playing a shortstack (unless we are talking a 40bb pushbot style) and very rarely do it so would rather take a 80+bb stack to the table. Maybe presidents day weekend...

Anywho, in an unrelated note, if you play at the Horseshoe in CLE PM if you want to meet up or something.
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02-05-2013 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
yeah, that's your problem.

It's not very common for me to win $300 in a night, but it's not that uncommon, either. Maybe 15%? maybe 10%

Ask WJ94; his answer would be "~all."
Less than $300 profit is a bad night IMO...easier to win $300+ with max buying instead of short-stacking. Short-stackers pretty much never leave with multiple racks. If I leave with less than two racks I consider it an off night. Lost $450 last night, worst session in a month...that sucked pretty hard.
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02-05-2013 , 04:55 PM
How could you honestly think its super easy to win $300 a session? Even in an 8 hour session you would need to win 40 an hour to win over $300 in a session.
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02-05-2013 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by D0UGHBOY
How could you honestly think its super easy to win $300 a session? Even in an 8 hour session you would need to win 40 an hour to win over $300 in a session.
Because it is pretty easy, and if not "easy", then I'd say not that difficult. Just looked at my past 69 sessions since I started tracking again and 32 of them were at least $300 profit, 25 were >$400, 19 were >$500, 14 were >$600, 11 were >$700, 9 were >$800, 5 were >$900. Only 8 of the 69 were $300+ losses. So yeah...not all that hard. Buy in max, play aggressive, profit??
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02-05-2013 , 05:07 PM
You gotta aim for the sky, son. Clearly it doesn't have to even be remotely possible, you just have to believe it!

Or simply have a spreadsheet that says you do.
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02-05-2013 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Because it is pretty easy, and if not "easy", then I'd say not that difficult. Just looked at my past 69 sessions since I started tracking again and 32 of them were at least $300 profit, 25 were >$400, 19 were >$500, 14 were >$600, 11 were >$700, 9 were >$800, 5 were >$900. Only 8 of the 69 were $300+ losses. So yeah...not all that hard. Buy in max, play aggressive, profit??
Look, self rising D0UGHBOY, I don't have time to explain these simple stuffs to you.

Just read the enclosed spreadsheet and figure out yourself. Clearly if it's in my spreadsheet, it's true.

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02-05-2013 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Raidion
This is all great advice. I think I might wait until I get up to around 3k and in the process sit in the 2/5 game anytime my stack goes above 400 and possibly a full shot anytime I see that the game is really soft on weekends. I just am not comfortable playing a shortstack (unless we are talking a 40bb pushbot style) and very rarely do it so would rather take a 80+bb stack to the table. Maybe presidents day weekend...

Anywho, in an unrelated note, if you play at the Horseshoe in CLE PM if you want to meet up or something.
If you are a girl I will meet up!!! The CLE games arent really that good IMO but I think the weekends are obviously the best for 2/5. When the 5/5 games run the 2/5 is a good game.
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02-05-2013 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Because it is pretty easy, and if not "easy", then I'd say not that difficult. Just looked at my past 69 sessions since I started tracking again and 32 of them were at least $300 profit, 25 were >$400, 19 were >$500, 14 were >$600, 11 were >$700, 9 were >$800, 5 were >$900. Only 8 of the 69 were $300+ losses. So yeah...not all that hard. Buy in max, play aggressive, profit??
do you stick around until your even/ahead? how many times on average would you say you re-buy? it seems like once or twice a session by looking at your spreadsheet unless RR is uncapped?

what is your average session length?
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02-05-2013 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Because it is pretty easy, and if not "easy", then I'd say not that difficult. Just looked at my past 69 sessions since I started tracking again and 32 of them were at least $300 profit, 25 were >$400, 19 were >$500, 14 were >$600, 11 were >$700, 9 were >$800, 5 were >$900. Only 8 of the 69 were $300+ losses. So yeah...not all that hard. Buy in max, play aggressive, profit??
must be nice to run like god
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02-05-2013 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by corlath
Mpethy, what percentage of 1/2 sessions would you say your stack goes above 500 from 200? Just curious, as it almost never happens to me--but I'm a nit who buys in for 100 to take advantage of villains' bad preflop selection without having to make many decisions postflop.
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
yeah, that's your problem.

It's not very common for me to win $300 in a night, but it's not that uncommon, either. Maybe 15%? maybe 10%

Ask WJ94; his answer would be "~all."
I just went back and clicked some buttons to take a more or less random sample, and i was at 10/58 of the sessions i checked at > $300 at 1/2. So 17%, my swag was both pleasingly and depressingly accurate.
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02-05-2013 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Less than $300 profit is a bad night IMO...easier to win $300+ with max buying instead of short-stacking. Short-stackers pretty much never leave with multiple racks. If I leave with less than two racks I consider it an off night. Lost $450 last night, worst session in a month...that sucked pretty hard.
This is ridiculous and not something that should be spread for others to aim for. Congrats on tracking 69 sessions and conveniently being on a heater.
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02-05-2013 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by diarrhea
This is ridiculous and not something that should be spread for others to aim for. Congrats on tracking 69 sessions and conveniently being on a heater.
This.
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02-05-2013 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Less than $300 profit is a bad night IMO...easier to win $300+ with max buying instead of short-stacking. Short-stackers pretty much never leave with multiple racks. If I leave with less than two racks I consider it an off night. Lost $450 last night, worst session in a month...that sucked pretty hard.


WJ, you can only make it so obvious that you're trolling this thread.

You claimed, what? 8 or 9 +$900 sessions in 68 sessions? So like 12% of your sessions are good nights? 88% of your sessions are off nights? Dude, if you have an off night 88% of the time, quit poker right damn now, you SUCK.
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02-05-2013 , 05:43 PM
In the six months I have been keeping a log, 8 out of 34 sessions ended +$300 or more for me, which is 23.5%. I also had five other sessions where I was +300 at some point but did not finish +300, so if I had a stop-win at +300, I would have hit it 38% of the time.

My hourly over this sample is about 20% above Radion's so the very (very, very) back of the envelope answer appears to be that Radion should be able to take his mini-shots, oh, about one out of every four sessions, if he gets up the moment he hits +300.

P.S. very, very, very back of the envelope - like Laffer curve quality analysis.
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02-05-2013 , 05:45 PM
I post this in my PG&C thread, and I'm obviously a fish so take it with a grain of salt, but in my last 26 sessions of 2/5 from September to now I am 8/26 for -7.6k.
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02-05-2013 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
I post this in my PG&C thread, and I'm obviously a fish so take it with a grain of salt, but in my last 26 sessions of 2/5 from September to now I am 8/26 for -7.6k.
I dunno, you post like you'd have an edge at 2/5. Don't really believe you're a fish. Pretty sure I had at least one similar run at 1/2, and my edge there was much bigger than your edge would be at 2/5.

Could be you post better than you play, which means you have a leak of not thinking clearly during a hand, maybe some other things that from your posts I don't think are really a problem for you (playing scared, passing up thin spots, etc.).

I think you should consider moving down to rebuild confidence (and roll, if it needs it), but I don't think you should be calling yourself a fish. I'd stake you in any 2/5 game in Vegas and feel good about it.
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02-05-2013 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Look, self rising D0UGHBOY, I don't have time to explain these simple stuffs to you.

Just read the enclosed spreadsheet and figure out yourself. Clearly if it's in my spreadsheet, it's true.
Clearly if it's on PokerJournal, it must be true too. Stat tracking is only as good as the information input by the user. PokerJournal pretty much does the same thing as Excel. People will believe what they want, this is the internets after all.

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Originally Posted by Duke0424
do you stick around until your even/ahead? how many times on average would you say you re-buy? it seems like once or twice a session by looking at your spreadsheet unless RR is uncapped?

what is your average session length?
Usually just leave when I start getting tired or no longer playing my A game. I don't usually rebuy since losing 150bb+ on a single hand doesn't happen that often, but I do reload to $300 when I get below ~$220. Looks like 34 out of my 69 sessions had at least one reload. RR is $300 max buy in, average session length is around 6 hours.

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Originally Posted by mpethybridge


WJ, you can only make it so obvious that you're trolling this thread.

You claimed, what? 8 or 9 +$900 sessions in 68 sessions? So like 12% of your sessions are good nights? 88% of your sessions are off nights? Dude, if you have an off night 88% of the time, quit poker right damn now, you SUCK.
Two racks would be anything over $500...I didn't say two full racks. That would be ridiculous. Rephrased, an off night would be leaving with less than $500. No trolling, all of my numbers are legit and there's at least 3 or 4 people that post here that I've played with often.
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02-05-2013 , 05:57 PM
That's it, I am moving to Red Rock casino!

Clearly everyone there are deep pocket morons.
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02-05-2013 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94

Two racks would be anything over $500...I didn't say two full racks. That would be ridiculous. Rephrased, an off night would be leaving with less than $500. No trolling, all of my numbers are legit and there's at least 3 or 4 people that post here that I've played with often.
OK, sorry for the misunderstanding, it's just that I only need a second rack if i have more than $700. You have really tiny hands or something?
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02-05-2013 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Clearly if it's on PokerJournal, it must be true too. Stat tracking is only as good as the information input by the user. PokerJournal pretty much does the same thing as Excel. People will believe what they want, this is the internets after all.



Usually just leave when I start getting tired or no longer playing my A game. I don't usually rebuy since losing 150bb+ on a single hand doesn't happen that often, but I do reload to $300 when I get below ~$220. Looks like 34 out of my 69 sessions had at least one reload. RR is $300 max buy in, average session length is around 6 hours.



Two racks would be anything over $500...I didn't say two full racks. That would be ridiculous. Rephrased, an off night would be leaving with less than $500. No trolling, all of my numbers are legit and there's at least 3 or 4 people that post here that I've played with often.
are the games you play in usually deep?

why dont you play 2/5?
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02-05-2013 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
That's it, I am moving to Red Rock casino!

Clearly everyone there are deep pocket morons.

I know you're just busting his chops, and I think I said this once before: I went over to RR looking for him on a weekend and didn't see him. Played a sesh, and it was more or less standard--within the range of variability for any 1/2 table in Vegas.

If he's having this heater he claims, and I'm sorry to say that his attitude is increasing my doubts, he could just as easily be having it at the V or the MGM.
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02-05-2013 , 06:03 PM
Some positive words itt. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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