That looks like an EKG of a man in cardiac arrest. Dont worry, it looks like they revived you.

This can't be true. Anyone paying attention to VPIP / PFR will figure this out eventually unless you happen to be getting crushed with the deck that day.

When shorterstacked it is definitely my preference to have this player to my immediate left. When deeper stacked I think I'd rather have him across the table (padded by shortstacked nits like myself inbetween) as I just don't want to be in too many OOP pots against him.

GcluelesspositionnoobG

I'm sure we're testing G's patience with all this stuff, but how in the world would anyone know I'm folding KTs and 55 in EP? *No one* folds these hands, so no one expects anyone else to fold them.

Ginb4ban,winrates!G

Its a top win rate because everyone who plays 1/3 is pretty mediocre. GG eliminates all dumb mistakes most people make with with his strategy so its actually wise to implement. But a grand lady could do what he does. I wouldn't take much pride in it. $30 an hour is definitely attainable at 1/3 if you play in a deep and late night game past midnight. It would probably be attainable for at any time of day for an elite cash game player.

The player you described is tough to play against but atleast he is playing loose and aggro, which will keep the fish engaged and helps keep the game out of the muck. This guy you are describing is giving back to the fish a little bit here and there. Even though he takes more $ than a nit reg, the fish actually wins decent sized pots from this guy when he tries a DB bluff or something risky. He will also play deep stacked with these guys and accept the fact that he could lose a 300BB pot.

The fish like to be able to have a chance to "get their money back". When a rock wins $ off them, the rock asks for a "table change" to take their profits off the table or just flat quit the game. They take advantage of how people are polite and notice that the fish dont seem to mind getting hit and run because "oh Im so friendly and nice to talk too."

With nit regs, they give no action to anyone and only make $ because of compulsive gambling addicts or whales who dont care about losing money.


We are all bum hunting, but nit regs take it the furthest possible way. Never lite 3-betting someone if they think they are out of line, never raising with a draw, never squeezing over limpers.


No plays that could even resemble playing "poker". Just unimaginative nut mining, banking on the fact that degens will keep showing up no matter what.

It was actually a petit mal seizure.

This is totally uncalled for

@ bodybuilder

You seem to have some misguided sense as to what "poker" is and what it isn't / should and should not be, imo.

The winrates thread is all about one simple thing: the bottom line. The bottom line is also the only thing the strategy threads are about.

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+1. Why flame someone on this forum for playing a winning strategy? We're here to win. I mean my god.

Ive said my piece so I will check out from this thread for a while.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Just speaking my mind.

Yes.

I’m relatively nitty (probably the nittiest at most tables) in my game but I have really learned to appreciate the value of a 3 blind game and since my game went to 2/5/10 I don’t think it’s a coincidence that my win rate has risen. Not enough hours to speak with confidence but straddles (and particularly utg straddles) are great for the game

@Dumbo - it looks like you...

1. Sun runned

2. Had a break even stretch (possibly when you were posting some really bad hands)

3. Resumed sun running

The middle section is more likely closer to your EV than either of the poles. Pretty good example of variance being the primary driving force in poker.

Which books?

Confirmed imo. I hope we get to play again sometime GG

+1

+1. Ideally he'd also be reading Anna Karenina (not War and Peace) and eating a Lucky Dog.

Assigned AK in 11th grade, expected to read 30+ pages per night. Umm...no thank you, I'll read the Cliff's Notes instead and still pass. Who assigns that tome to a bunch of high school juniors? I mean talk about great expectations.

Ever the vote of confidence....

I'm not so sure I'd go so far as "sun runned", as eyeballing things it looks like he ran at about $27/hr and $19/hr over those start/end periods. Yeah, of course lol sample size but still nothing anyone would consider outlandish $/hr-wise. Going on a $3.5K downswing in 1/3 NL might be a little concern (at least for those who aren't super lags).

Dumbo, what does your giraffe look like without including 2/5 NL and PLO? I'm assuming those games are far more swingy and could have much bigger affect on things, so I simply wouldn't include those results in a 1/3 NL giraffe.

You're winning so don't be too hard on yourself and gogogo, imo.

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Stupid Poker Income has a glitch that won't let me activate filters.

All I know is my 2/5 results skew my NL results up ($90/hr. over 20 hours) and my PLO results skew them down (-$21/hr. over 51 hours). 1/3 is $11/hr. over 710 hours.

The middle portion is what happens when you play in semi deep and aggressive games which exponentially increases your variance. You're not fading villain's outs every time they are on a draw like you used to. You're not binking your 12 outers like you used to. You're running KK into AA. You're losing your flips 80% of the time. You're getting TPTK in vs. TPNK and he's sucking out on the river.

You probably ran below EV during that middle portion and compounded it with some poor play. The unfortunate thing about poker is you can "run" like you did in the middle for very very long periods of time.

Bodybuilder, you make it sound like it's our responsibility to deviate from what we think is the most +EV way to play poker just for the "good of the game" or for the sake of "giving something back" to the fish. It's not. And we don't owe fish anything.

Actually there is ev of a hand and ev of a session and ev of a life. There is more that goes into the ev of a session than hand equities. People learning ev of a hand and believing it is a vacuum is one of the worst things to happen to educated players in terms of slowing down their progress in poker.

It is quite possible to take -ev plays in a single hand that are actually +ev for a session. Not talking about for image purposes. But for the flow of money.

Not saying anyone should really do these things. Just gg it up and print. But there are certainly times for -ev decisions for the sake of the ev of the session.

I agree with you there. I don't gainsay my period of play bad (an unfortunate byproduct of runbad). I just think I am playing much more solid poker now than I used to, plus running at or above EV doesn't hurt. Thanks for elaborating.

I agree with this too but mainly in a sense that is partly about image purposes. As an inner nit, part of me hates being caught bluffing both because I still feel a bit embarrassed in a weird way and also because no matter how many years I play the game for, I still can’t shake my ‘session by session p&l mindset’ while I’m playing.

It’s definitely one of the biggest flaws in my mental game. But given I’m a nit and play against a lot of pros and regs in a small player pool I console myself with the (mainly truthful) POV that unsuccessful and often bad bluffs are actually great for my p&l over the long term because they get my value hands paid more often

I remember a 30 hour period in where I was never dealt kk+ preflop.

40 hours is really tiny for live poker

What if I make a bad bet with you so you make a worse bet with me?

Example:
Were gonna bet on coin flips. We are going to have two bets.
Bet 1:
I win $10 for every Heads.. and I pay you $20 for Every Tails.

Bet 2:
You win $10 every time you hit two heads in a row...I win $20 every time you don't!

In bet 1, every 8 Flips the math says you should be down $40.
In bet 2, every 8 flips the math says you would be up $50.

You are profiting by making a losing bet to convince to make your opponent make a worse losing bet.

Also known as...giving action.

You have to go to the Overview Tab and the filter is on that page. It is a pain in the A to find it...I used to struggle all the time.