Well yeah I think you should always have some threshold for where you decide to drop in stakes because of risk of ruin

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So I guess like with 10k I would say I have 32 buyins. 2 at 2/5 and 30 at 1/3

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I now have 13 BI

Is it possible to average over $1000 a week at 1/2? I would like to make that for one year to get the car I want

Just do the math.

If you put in 40 hours a week, you'd have to win at a $25/hour clip to accomplish the $1000 a week.

Can you put in 40 hours a week over a year for a total of 2080 hours at the felt?

Have you been beating 1/2 for a $25/hr clip?

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You would have to average $20/hr if you play 50 hours a week. Is it possible? Yes if you ran hot as hell, I would think the more likely hourly for a good 1/2 player would be $10-$15/hr. There is just so much to fight between the rake and the bonus drop to average $20.

No, impossible.

If it's possible, you would already know.

A good player can make $25/hr but not sure if a good player can make $25/hr at 40 hrs/wk. you wouldn't be able to game and time select. You'd also wear out. The truth is that if you're making $25/hr and grinding full time you're actually an idiot because you should be moving up to $2/5 where your winrate will likely climb due to the stakes.

That's assuming you have the bankroll and a 2/5 game available.

It really isn't a realistic goal. It's hard to put in that many hours and it's hard to win 10bb+/hr at 1/2.

What kind of car do you want and how much do you plan on spending on it?

It's not THAT hard.

It is if you have never done it.

Actually, I think it really is that hard for the vast majority of players. It takes experience and it takes great discipline. I've never put in enough hours at 1/2 to know definitively but I've seen enough players fail at it to know it's not as easy as people think. See TheTrooper97 youtube videos for evidence of that.

Touché to both. I guess I mean it's not hard for someone who knows how.


I really need to get in this trooper thing. Haven't seen any.

Winning poker is really hard, mostly because it is literally impossible to change how most people approach the same task.

"Can't teach an old dog new tricks."

Average people somehow expect different and positive results even though the approach remains the same.

Most players cannot even come close to 5bb/hr because their fundamental approach makes it impossible.

It's not?

Git'sreallyhard,imo,andgettingalotharderG

I guess my perspective is different. I was taught how to play winning poker almost from the very beginning of my journey so I didn't ever build those decades old bad habits. I was put into a winning mindset immediately by someone who knew what they were talking about.

I can't recall your story, but didn't you just post that you only have a 13 BI bankroll? So I'm assuming a crushing 10+bb/hr winrate but life has eaten into the roll?

Gtryingpolitelytoaskwhatyourwinrateisoverasignific antnumberofhourswithoutreallyaskingG

beating the game for 10 bigs per hour aint rocket science. I am not super smart and am not getting any smarter. Here is what is hard

actually logging 2k hours per year
playing kick ass poker day in and day out
quitting when you know you are not playing your best
not going on monkey tilt
not getting entitlement tilt
not playing hands cuz you are bored

VERY VERY few players do all of these things

describe entitlement tilt, im sure ive done it but now i wanna be able to recognize it

Your WR says $50/hr, therefore you feel entitled to win every session.

Pocket aces always win? Entitled.

Top set never loses? Entitled.

Nut on flop and should remain nut? Entitled.

Confirmed possible and miserable.

GG- $24+/hr at ~1000 hrs of 1/2 NL. Sample
Size is debatable. Spent my entire roll on a wedding and never got paid back. Saved a few bucks here and there for a year and restarted with $500. Now at 13bi. Hope to be fully solvent within a couple months.

what RP sez. Also entitlement. I play sooo much better than these assclowns and they are slinging $$$ like crazy with sht holdings - I am card dead but ima get in the mix with crappy holdings and make it happen. I see this one TONS...then they justify it. "Well I am so far ahead of their range there...blah blahh blah...he can never call there with 2nd pair...etc etc...SO FUKKIN SICK MAN"

Sample size aside, impressive nonetheless imo, nice job.

Still, depending on the size of you player pool, my guess would be you're in the very top percent: that's not exactly *easy* to do (especially long term).

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At the risk of being arrogant I believe that I am one of the top players in my regular pool. As I said I think my perspective is skewed because I was provided with the tools for success from the very beginning. I also was blessed to be born with a temperament and analytical abilities that are very conducive to poker. I might not be that good though. I only have a speck of 2/5 under my belt. From what I've seen I have a good edge there too but how big remains to be seen. To me it "seems" like t should be easy as long as you know what I know. RP makes a good point though. Some people aren't built for success and it doesn't matter how many books they read.

My 1/2 is $300 cap so I would expect our winrates to be nearly identical given equal ability and opponents.