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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

04-18-2016 , 12:45 PM
I'm addicted to checking my stats
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04-18-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by YGOchamp
I'm addicted to checking my stats
+1

Review mine after every session along with reviewing interesting hands.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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04-18-2016 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by YGOchamp
I'm addicted to checking my stats
+1

BTW, sick winrates for everyone, nice job.

Git'sallaboutthegiraffeG
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04-18-2016 , 01:49 PM
Only winners like to look at stats, ldo.
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04-18-2016 , 06:28 PM
Agree with weekend games being better, and my home room usually has nice promos during the week and weekends are still better.

About 60% of my hours are Fri & Sat and I'm at 14bb/hr and 16bb/hr respectively
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04-19-2016 , 11:32 AM
Getting to play this Friday night, first time I'm playing prime-time in FOREVER.

Obviously my one session will for once and for all determine whether weekends are better than weeknights.
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04-19-2016 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
Getting to play this Friday night, first time I'm playing prime-time in FOREVER.

Obviously my one session will for once and for all determine whether weekends are better than weeknights.
Unusual opportunity, excitement, prime time...

Nobody runs good in that spot.
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04-19-2016 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
Getting to play this Friday night, first time I'm playing prime-time in FOREVER.

Obviously my one session will for once and for all determine whether weekends are better than weeknights.

was planning on taking friday off...now I clearly cant.
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04-19-2016 , 07:51 PM
deathcab getting bumhunted ITT
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04-19-2016 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by squid face
was planning on taking friday off...now I clearly cant.
Yum yum come git some, fishhhhhhh
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04-19-2016 , 08:46 PM
Sweet I'm gonna come nit it up at 2/5 after I crush some bakery food
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04-22-2016 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by homerdash
thinly veiled brag ahead

Here's a recent (since October) sample that is 500+ hours and a 10bb/hr+ WR

you should move up

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Originally Posted by aling
I wonder if $50/hr is sustainable these days in a 2-5. That's what I made playing 10-25 once a week last year although I did lose 3 30K+ pot. Now I'm trying to decide if 2-5 is worth my time.
yup

you guys ready for some giraffes






#iamtrackingmyheater


since august 25th
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04-22-2016 , 01:37 PM
shoulda waited to win another 1200 to make it more more legit but whatever im oi

game is 500 cap 2/5 with 7 dollar rake 9 handed if anyone is wondering.
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Originally Posted by bip!
People obsess over risk of ruin from the cards... much more likely life bites your roll, not poker

- medical
- family
- women
- cars / home
- degen habits (drugs, pit, sports betting)
- theft

... about the only people immune to the life risk are those with high paying jobs. And for those people, you don't need a roll for LLSNL

If you are a winning full time player - poker is not going to sink you, everything else might
this is so damn true

Last edited by JamesGreen; 04-22-2016 at 01:44 PM.
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04-22-2016 , 03:23 PM
tbh only thing the stats from these current 10bb/hr crushers proves is that they are running well. especially in live poker, if a person doesn't run well in the big pots/ all ins then they don't bring home the money.

its not what people want to hear but huge majority people who stick around the longest are basically the ones who don't run bad for long stretches. in something as fickle as live poker, a person can do everything right, play well, game select well, bmr etc but frankly if they don't run well in those amazing spots more than average then they don't stick around.

Last edited by Siculamente; 04-22-2016 at 03:33 PM.
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04-22-2016 , 03:29 PM
Somebody sounds jelly.
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04-22-2016 , 03:46 PM
I most definitely am.

i mean look, if we could somehow compile all the hands of these "crushers" then without a doubt we would see how well they run specifically in 3b pots/ all ins. but they're not smart enough to realize it or their egos are too big to admit that yes, they play the standard abc tag game and run well in the right spots. nothing special.

all you have to do is listen to some of these guys about their "bad beats" or just look at the smug look on their faces.

def jelly its gotta be amazing to live in a bubble

Last edited by Siculamente; 04-22-2016 at 03:56 PM.
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04-22-2016 , 03:56 PM
I could be wrong, but I think I've only seen one other person than myself post a >= 2000 hours stats in this thread (if I recall, it was like for 4000+ hours for what many would consider a mediocre winrate, although I thought it was incredibly impressive if even just for sticktoitniveness alone). ETA: Come to think of it, I can think of at least one other that has posted > 2000 hours, and if I recall they hit an insane downswing outta nowhere after smoothsailing for the first 1800.

Gnicestatsandall,really,but1000hoursain't****,imoG
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04-22-2016 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Siculamente
tbh only thing the stats from these current 10bb/hr crushers proves is that they are running well. especially in live poker, if a person doesn't run well in the big pots/ all ins then they don't bring home the money.

its not what people want to hear but huge majority people who stick around the longest are basically the ones who don't run bad for long stretches. in something as fickle as live poker, a person can do everything right, play well, game select well, bmr etc but frankly if they don't run well in those amazing spots more than average then they don't stick around.

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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I could be wrong, but I think I've only seen one other person than myself post a >= 2000 hours stats in this thread (if I recall, it was like for 4000+ hours for what many would consider a mediocre winrate, although I thought it was incredibly impressive if even just for sticktoitniveness alone). ETA: Come to think of it, I can think of at least one other that has posted > 2000 hours, and if I recall they hit an insane downswing outta nowhere after smoothsailing for the first 1800.

Gnicestatsandall,really,but1000hoursain't****,imoG


That was probably me. Some very rough patches in there, like 500 hours of breakeven or losing sessions. But not enough to go broke so I just kept playing and reading. I think I've seen maybe 1 or 2 other samples in the 2000 hour range, and anecdotal comments for several others claiming similar records. You're right that it's rare.

For a little perspective since the graph dump at the start of the year:

Feb: +$813 over 48 hours, $17/hr
Mar: +$2176 over 65.5 hours, $33.25/hr
Apr: +$2365 over 40 hours, $59.50/hr

So there's a 150hours sample with a crushing winrate. I've got a couple of winning PLO sessions in there, but also a couple of losers. I've definitely been running well, much better than last year (mostly in terms of hands holding up, rarely get it *in* from behind to suck out).


My perspective is that a winning player can and will go flat for long periods when things go badly. You play well and chip up only to get whacked with the variance hammer. Play it back up, whack. Repeat. You may end sessions up and down, but end up basically breakeven for a stretch. The process is frustrating and I think feeds back on itself for most people. Then when the variance pendulum swings the other way you can make progress and book consistent wins.


Edit: The graphs were in post 13662, and following discussion http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...l#post49452424

Last edited by Angrist; 04-22-2016 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Sample Reference
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04-22-2016 , 04:38 PM
^^^^ Yes, this was the one I was thinking of.

Ginitsownway,it'sthemostimpressivegraphinthisthrea d,imoG
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04-22-2016 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Siculamente
I most definitely am.

i mean look, if we could somehow compile all the hands of these "crushers" then without a doubt we would see how well they run specifically in 3b pots/ all ins but they're not smart enough to realize it or their egos are too big to admit that yes, they play the standard abc tag game and run well in the right spots. nothing special.

all you have to do is listen to some of these guys about their "bad beats" or just look at the smug look on their faces.

def jelly its gotta be amazing to live in a bubble
This is exactly what a person who cant beat the game for a high win rate would say. I keep track of every all in hand to see where I'm running vs my EV. I also apparently dont play a standard ABC TAG game because I get hammered by 2+2ers for how bad my line is in every one of my HH posts so thats not it either.

I still make plenty of mistakes and Im at 10BB/hr so maybe the real answer is that 1) you aren't that good and 2) that 10BB/hr is not the ceiling that people here think.
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04-22-2016 , 04:58 PM
FWIW, I am -3000 in river during last 2 sessions with KK.
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04-22-2016 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
FWIW, I am -3000 in river during last 2 sessions with KK.

Fold rivers you ****ing station??
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04-22-2016 , 05:02 PM
Mike, take a breath and relax. You sound like a broken record. You catch flack because you come across as a pompous ignoramus unable to accept constructive criticism, not due to your often bizarre lines.
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04-22-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Fold rivers you ****ing station??


Must...not...appear...weak!
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04-22-2016 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
This is exactly what a person who cant beat the game for a high win rate would say. I keep track of every all in hand to see where I'm running vs my EV. I also apparently dont play a standard ABC TAG game because I get hammered by 2+2ers for how bad my line is in every one of my HH posts so thats not it either.



I still make plenty of mistakes and Im at 10BB/hr so maybe the real answer is that 1) you aren't that good and 2) that 10BB/hr is not the ceiling that people here think.

LOL, isn't your win % somewhere in the high 70?

Judging by your posts and that high %, you are probably running hotter than sun.
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