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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

09-02-2015 , 04:02 AM
gather around boys and girls. i have a story to share in the morning. it is a tale that chronicles patience, determination, guile and majestic dragons.

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09-02-2015 , 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
gather around boys and girls. i have a story to share in the morning. it is a tale that chronicles patience, determination, guile and majestic dragons.

that is a crapload of money for $1/$2. looks like you made back the $3k you lost.

very nice. wish you had that heater at $2/$5.

although i guess that could be from $2/$5. which is still impressive.
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09-02-2015 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
gather around boys and girls. i have a story to share in the morning. it is a tale that chronicles patience, determination, guile and majestic dragons.




Nice win
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09-02-2015 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by IbelieveinChipKelly
that is a crapload of money for $1/$2. looks like you made back the $3k you lost.

very nice. wish you had that heater at $2/$5.

although i guess that could be from $2/$5. which is still impressive.
since he's at parx and there are a blue ($2) and red chip out there, i'm guessing it is 2/5, though it still could be 1/2 and both didnt have change. either way, 3k+ is nice on most tables...
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09-02-2015 , 09:09 AM
oh damn he is at parx. I was just there a dew months ago. Wish we met up Johnybuz. I may be back around Thanksgiving.

Nice stack also keep it up.
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09-02-2015 , 09:19 AM
Jesus you guys are the most unobservant people ever.

arn't you guys supposed to be poker players?

clearly 2/5, look at the blinds.
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09-02-2015 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Jesus you guys are the most unobservant people ever.

arn't you guys supposed to be poker players?

clearly 2/5, look at the blinds.
did i earn my gold star for the day?
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09-02-2015 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
did i earn my gold star for the day?
I didnt see you had already observed what I had.

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09-02-2015 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by IbelieveinChipKelly
that is a crapload of money for $1/$2. looks like you made back the $3k you lost.

very nice. wish you had that heater at $2/$5.

although i guess that could be from $2/$5. which is still impressive.
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Originally Posted by bip!
Nice win
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
since he's at parx and there are a blue ($2) and red chip out there, i'm guessing it is 2/5, though it still could be 1/2 and both didnt have change. either way, 3k+ is nice on most tables...
Thanks guys. The actual tally was $4,437 which crushes all of my previous records for largest pot won, biggest chip stack, biggest cash, etc. You can't really see from the picture, but the black chips actually extend pretty far down in that pile.

The story goes, I wasn't planning on playing 2/5 for awhile, but after the good week I had last week at 1/2 and 1/3, I thought I would consider it Tuesday if the tables looked soft (Tuesday is biggest night @ Parx for some reason). 1/2 and 1/3 had a long list and I actually got put at a tough 2/5 table with a bunch of regs, grinders, etc.

So I decided to play it but just tone down my aggression, go back to a real basic ABC premium hand strategy buying in for 100 BB's (everyone else buys in for 200 BB's). I meandered around for two hours, not doing much but being up $300. Then I ran AK into TT on a KT676 board that TT limp/called pre. Managed to lose a minimum on that hand I think (70 BB's). Chipped up a little bit, then lost KQ AI on flop JT6 to AT by some guy that bought in short for $400. I'm thinking to myself "Great ... 21 outs twice bricks out, it's going to be one of those nights."

But I felt pretty happy with the way I was playing and didn't feel like I was tilting or anything, so I chipped up to $1000 with the last that I had (in for $1400 now) and just kept chipping away. Main table broke, got moved to a new table and won a few more small pots. I'm sitting on $1500 now at about 2:30am thinking to myself "the only thing worse/biggest waste of my time than grinding a $100 win at 1/2 is grinding a $100 win at 2/5," like I'm about to rack it up and accept my fate of grinding 1/2 and 1/3 for awhile..

We are playing 5 handed at the moment so it sucks, but another table breaks and I see three deep stacks headed over to my table. I've got one seat open to my left, followed by two deep stacks and then an open seat. I make the seat change of a lifetime and take the opening with position on 4 deep stacks now and the following transpires in about 30 minutes:

Hand 1:

Spoiler:
YoungBuck ($1500) opens to $25 in EP
Hero ($1500) calls $25 OTB with 66
FacialHair ($1500) 3! to $115 in the SB
YoungBuck calls
Hero calls

Pot: $340

Flop: 2 6 3

FacialHair bets $240
YoungBuck calls $240
Hero calls $240

Pot: $1060

Turn: 2

FacialHair checks
YoungBuck checks
Hero bets $350
FacialHair folds
YoungBuck shoves for $1145
Hero beats him into the pot and MHIG (V mucks)


Hand 2: 10 minutes later

Spoiler:
MassageMan ($1000) opens to $20 in the CO
Hero ($3355) calls $20 OTB with 66
YoungBuck [same V from Hand 1] ($1200) raises to $110 in the SB
MassageMan calls
Hero calls

Pot: $325

Flop: 8 6 Q

YoungBuck bets $280
MassageMan folds
Hero calls $280

Pot: $885

Turn: 3

YoungBuck checks
Hero shoves for $610
YoungBuck tank/calls $610

River: 9

MHIG and V mucks


And now I'm back at a crossroads with a BR at an all-time high and unsure which limit to play. I came up with a schedule of which days I would play 1/2, 1/3 and 2/5 so I think I should just be disciplined with the schedule and stick to it. There are definitely some BAD nights to play 2/5 and I learned that the hard way during August.
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09-02-2015 , 10:33 AM
I was judging my win rate as being "dismal" due to this sticky thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...g-pro-1426688/

Where it says:
Step #1) You have to be a demonstrated winning player with a track record of beating 1/2nl for a minimum of 500 hours for a winrate of $20/hr or better. You also need a minimum roll of $4k. If this is the case, proceed onward to Step #2. If this is not the case, skip this section and go to the next section titled “Hail Mary”.
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09-02-2015 , 10:34 AM
2/5 when games good. Lower when it's not IMO. Holy slowplay on those HH.
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09-02-2015 , 11:05 AM
Hey all back to update for August.

I made a post a few pages back about a dismal summer I was having. I decided to take a month and not look at my graph or stats at all and just focus on playing my best everyday. Well today I finally looked at my results for the month and was happy with what I saw.

August 15: $3003 profit over 91 hours ($33/hr).

I play mostly 1/2nl (150bb BI) and sometimes 2/5nl (200bb BI). This month I only played about 10 hrs of 2/5 so it didn't throw the stats too far in either direction. Feeling pretty good about my results considering I had a $1300 loss at 1/2 while getting ran over in a deep whale infested game about 3/4 through the month.

First session of sept went great with a $1250 win at the morning 1/2game over hours.
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09-02-2015 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ZuneIt
I was judging my win rate as being "dismal" due to this sticky thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...g-pro-1426688/

Where it says:
Step #1) You have to be a demonstrated winning player with a track record of beating 1/2nl for a minimum of 500 hours for a winrate of $20/hr or better. You also need a minimum roll of $4k. If this is the case, proceed onward to Step #2. If this is not the case, skip this section and go to the next section titled “Hail Mary”.
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09-02-2015 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZuneIt
I was judging my win rate as being "dismal" due to this sticky thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...g-pro-1426688/



Where it says:

Step #1) You have to be a demonstrated winning player with a track record of beating 1/2nl for a minimum of 500 hours for a winrate of $20/hr or better. You also need a minimum roll of $4k. If this is the case, proceed onward to Step #2. If this is not the case, skip this section and go to the next section titled “Hail Mary”.

It seems DGI never followed any of that himself.

A lot of urban legends out there about how commonplace big LLSNL WRs are.
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09-02-2015 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
there's a large skill gap between the 1/2 and 2/5 games in my casino.

2/5 is the largest hold em game in the room, only two or a maximum of three tables run and a 2/5 table often has 3 or 4 players at a table who would each easily be the best 1/2 player in the room if they played those stakes

doesn't mean it's not beatable at all...far from it, but the game plays a lot differently and a far superior level of poker knowledge and skills are needed to beat it, compared to the ones needed to beating 1/2
Somehow the context was lost...

Skill level of your opponents is relative.

My comment was directed at players that are crushing 1/2 at ~10bb/hr, or as you would call them, best 1/2 players in the room.

For them, skill gap that would take to beat either game at similar dollar amount is small.
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09-02-2015 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ZuneIt
I was judging my win rate as being "dismal" due to this sticky thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...g-pro-1426688/

Where it says:
Step #1) You have to be a demonstrated winning player with a track record of beating 1/2nl for a minimum of 500 hours for a winrate of $20/hr or better. You also need a minimum roll of $4k. If this is the case, proceed onward to Step #2. If this is not the case, skip this section and go to the next section titled “Hail Mary”.
It seems that the guy was more of a fictional writer than anything else.
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09-02-2015 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Thanks guys. The actual tally was $4,437 which crushes all of my previous records for largest pot won, biggest chip stack, biggest cash, etc. You can't really see from the picture, but the black chips actually extend pretty far down in that pile.

The story goes, I wasn't planning on playing 2/5 for awhile, but after the good week I had last week at 1/2 and 1/3, I thought I would consider it Tuesday if the tables looked soft (Tuesday is biggest night @ Parx for some reason). 1/2 and 1/3 had a long list and I actually got put at a tough 2/5 table with a bunch of regs, grinders, etc.

So I decided to play it but just tone down my aggression, go back to a real basic ABC premium hand strategy buying in for 100 BB's (everyone else buys in for 200 BB's). I meandered around for two hours, not doing much but being up $300. Then I ran AK into TT on a KT676 board that TT limp/called pre. Managed to lose a minimum on that hand I think (70 BB's). Chipped up a little bit, then lost KQ AI on flop JT6 to AT by some guy that bought in short for $400. I'm thinking to myself "Great ... 21 outs twice bricks out, it's going to be one of those nights."

But I felt pretty happy with the way I was playing and didn't feel like I was tilting or anything, so I chipped up to $1000 with the last that I had (in for $1400 now) and just kept chipping away. Main table broke, got moved to a new table and won a few more small pots. I'm sitting on $1500 now at about 2:30am thinking to myself "the only thing worse/biggest waste of my time than grinding a $100 win at 1/2 is grinding a $100 win at 2/5," like I'm about to rack it up and accept my fate of grinding 1/2 and 1/3 for awhile..

We are playing 5 handed at the moment so it sucks, but another table breaks and I see three deep stacks headed over to my table. I've got one seat open to my left, followed by two deep stacks and then an open seat. I make the seat change of a lifetime and take the opening with position on 4 deep stacks now and the following transpires in about 30 minutes:

Hand 1:

Spoiler:
YoungBuck ($1500) opens to $25 in EP
Hero ($1500) calls $25 OTB with 66
FacialHair ($1500) 3! to $115 in the SB
YoungBuck calls
Hero calls

Pot: $340

Flop: 2 6 3

FacialHair bets $240
YoungBuck calls $240
Hero calls $240

Pot: $1060

Turn: 2

FacialHair checks
YoungBuck checks
Hero bets $350
FacialHair folds
YoungBuck shoves for $1145
Hero beats him into the pot and MHIG (V mucks)


Hand 2: 10 minutes later

Spoiler:
MassageMan ($1000) opens to $20 in the CO
Hero ($3355) calls $20 OTB with 66
YoungBuck [same V from Hand 1] ($1200) raises to $110 in the SB
MassageMan calls
Hero calls

Pot: $325

Flop: 8 6 Q

YoungBuck bets $280
MassageMan folds
Hero calls $280

Pot: $885

Turn: 3

YoungBuck checks
Hero shoves for $610
YoungBuck tank/calls $610

River: 9

MHIG and V mucks


And now I'm back at a crossroads with a BR at an all-time high and unsure which limit to play. I came up with a schedule of which days I would play 1/2, 1/3 and 2/5 so I think I should just be disciplined with the schedule and stick to it. There are definitely some BAD nights to play 2/5 and I learned that the hard way during August.
Congrats! I'm guessing you have a new favorite hand?
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09-02-2015 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
gather around boys and girls. i have a story to share in the morning. it is a tale that chronicles patience, determination, guile and majestic dragons.

Worst color scheme ever for chips?

GJFC,everygoddamcoloroftherainbowisineverysinglech ip,blechG
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09-02-2015 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
gather around boys and girls. i have a story to share in the morning. it is a tale that chronicles patience, determination, guile and majestic dragons.




But how much did u lose?
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09-02-2015 , 12:31 PM


Johnny, is that you?
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09-02-2015 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TobiasReiper
Hey all back to update for August.

I made a post a few pages back about a dismal summer I was having. I decided to take a month and not look at my graph or stats at all and just focus on playing my best everyday. Well today I finally looked at my results for the month and was happy with what I saw.

August 15: $3003 profit over 91 hours ($33/hr).

I play mostly 1/2nl (150bb BI) and sometimes 2/5nl (200bb BI). This month I only played about 10 hrs of 2/5 so it didn't throw the stats too far in either direction. Feeling pretty good about my results considering I had a $1300 loss at 1/2 while getting ran over in a deep whale infested game about 3/4 through the month.

First session of sept went great with a $1250 win at the morning 1/2game over hours.
Nice job keep it up. 90hrs. If you have a job on top of that holy cow that's a lot.
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09-02-2015 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Worst color scheme ever for chips?

GJFC,everygoddamcoloroftherainbowisineverysinglech ip,blechG
The $2's hide well in a rack of $5's.

Not as bad as MDL where the $2's are similar to $25's.
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09-02-2015 , 01:09 PM
Do we still think 40bis + 6 month life expenses is an adeqaute fulltime BR?
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09-02-2015 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by de4df1sh
Do we still think 40bis + 6 month life expenses is an adeqaute fulltime BR?

Sounds like plenty to me.
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09-02-2015 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
But how much did u lose?
$20

Some guy I saw get felted earlier in the night stalked me to the cage asking for gas money to get back to NYC. That good karma should be worth a few extra sets this month.
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