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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

08-25-2015 , 06:15 PM
Didn't mean to be on a high horse about it, just my two cents. I feel pretty fortunate just to not pay money for something I love to do, since most people with hobbies don't even have a shot at that.

The point about a lot of folks looking miserable is totally fair - but same could be said for a lot of medium, and even biggish winners I think. Poker is a strange game indeed.
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08-25-2015 , 07:56 PM
Hi pm
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08-25-2015 , 10:26 PM
*Disclaimer, yes this is an LOL sample size.

Since I helped muck up this thread a bit I might as well post some results.

Since picking up the game again on a regular part-time basis I've been running pretty good.

Ol' Nicname is up $4,788 over 151 hours 20 minutes since kicking off play during a wedding (not mine) trip to Vegas at the beginning of April. 128 of those hours have been spent playing 1/3 at my "local" casino, where I once had the pleasure of sitting at the same table as the one and only Garick. The other 20+ hours include a few pit stops at some lower level Vegas card rooms for 1/2 and 1/3, as well as 2 hours losing $680 at 2/5 on my way to a vacation in Colorado.

I should note I don't keep track of tips or how much booze/food I buy out of my stack, but that probably evens out as I also don't keep track of my gas money (trip costs around $5 there and back, plus $1 in turnpike fees. It's probably a wash.

Some Stats (overall)
Hours 151 h 20 m
Profit $4,788
Hourly $31.92
Hourly in BB 11.3
Sessions 33: Wins 21 Losses 12
Avg session 4 h 35 m
Std Dev per hour = $235.52
Std Dev per session = $519.15

I have had one losing month (July). I didn't notice until I checked, but I never played a single weekend session at my home casino. Rather, I played 4 times on Thursdays. It's a tougher game that night, and I was playing on little sleep much of the time. I didn't run bad I don't think. I did play bad. This also included the 2/5 2 hour burner I took on the way to Colorado.

Home casino stats:
Hours 128 h 54 m
Profit = $5385
Hourly = $42.21
Hourly in BB = 14.1 BB
Sessions 24: 17 wins, 7 losses
Avg session = 5 h 22 m
Std Dev per hour = $239.17
Std Dev per session = $558.3

Obv. Fridays and especially Saturdays are my most successful. Going a month between a weekend session wasn't good for me. I do, however, believe I can be a consistent winner during weekday games.
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08-25-2015 , 10:31 PM
Did you stack Garick though?
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08-25-2015 , 10:52 PM
Nope. Never got in a real hand with him. Prob would've owned me.
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08-25-2015 , 10:59 PM
Anyone that could afford losing a ton in poker is a brag.

I am a confirmed losing player.
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08-26-2015 , 05:02 AM
Overall stats of 2/5, $500 max 5+1 game over 3 months

Sessions: 79
Profit: $20,377
Hourly: $35.21/hr
Standard Deviation: 566.9/h
Total time: 574.9 hrs
Avg Session: 7.28 hrs

This is pretty good imo, I've certainly seen better and near the start I stayed in the $50-60/hr range until I hit some downswings. What has me confused though, is that I broke it down into $ won by days of the week and got these interesting results:



Obviously the weekends are the best time to play, but I'm not sure why I'm breakeven Monday vs winning Tuesday to getting absolutely crushed Wednesday/Thursday. Intuitively, I would've thought that my weekends weren't quite as good, and my weekdays were in the $20/hr range. Anyone have similar results when breaking down by days of the week?
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08-26-2015 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuppa
Overall stats of 2/5, $500 max 5+1 game over 3 months

Sessions: 79
Profit: $20,377
Hourly: $35.21/hr
Standard Deviation: 566.9/h
Total time: 574.9 hrs
Avg Session: 7.28 hrs

This is pretty good imo, I've certainly seen better and near the start I stayed in the $50-60/hr range until I hit some downswings. What has me confused though, is that I broke it down into $ won by days of the week and got these interesting results:



Obviously the weekends are the best time to play, but I'm not sure why I'm breakeven Monday vs winning Tuesday to getting absolutely crushed Wednesday/Thursday. Intuitively, I would've thought that my weekends weren't quite as good, and my weekdays were in the $20/hr range. Anyone have similar results when breaking down by days of the week?
I had/have about an 800 sample in a 1/2 game where I was destroying Friday night at like 50/hr and conversely getting killed Saturday and losing like -8/hr or something.

I think you have to just chalk it up to variance as were dealing with two digit hour sample sizes
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08-26-2015 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuppa
Obviously the weekends are the best time to play, but I'm not sure why I'm breakeven Monday vs winning Tuesday to getting absolutely crushed Wednesday/Thursday. Intuitively, I would've thought that my weekends weren't quite as good, and my weekdays were in the $20/hr range. Anyone have similar results when breaking down by days of the week?
because you're only looking at 50-60 hours. 1 good/bad session will skew your entire day. hypothetically, if the next monday you play, you win/lose 1 BI over say 3.2 hours, your winrate is either roughly $12 or -$4, so it either triples the current value or goes completely negative.

you probably wont get any relevant daily statistics until you are in the 2500-3000 hour range overall and even then your mondays/tuesdays might not be significant, since they are the days you obv play the least on. based on the ratio you play now mondays are 9.9% and tuesdays are 11.5% of your total play, if that trend continues, it would take you over 5000 hours to get to a 500 hour sample. in other words, its not that important and i wouldnt worry about it for a little while.

nice stats though
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08-26-2015 , 08:25 AM
100+/hr on fri+Sat and <5/hr Sun-Thu might make me go hmmm. Lol small sample even grouped though.

Stddev high for 2-5 500, you lag or extra aggro deep?
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08-26-2015 , 09:15 AM
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Thanks progress, bip. Appreciate the kudos.
Congrats on digging yourself out of the hole by your booty, or something like that.

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100+/hr on fri+Sat and <5/hr Sun-Thu might make me go hmmm. Lol small sample even grouped though.

Stddev high for 2-5 500, you lag or extra aggro deep?
Some days lend themselves to high variance play.
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08-26-2015 , 09:17 AM
Nice stats Chuppa. Next step is figuring out the 'decimal' functionality in Excel
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08-26-2015 , 11:00 AM
+1 to all the "small sample size, absolutely nothing can be concluded" responses regarding the day-of-the-week results

Here are mine thru 2377 hours ($25.13/hr) of 1/3 (and I still think the breakdown is meaningless):

Mon 321 hours $16.12/hr
Tue 245 hours $37.32/hr
Wed 191 hours $10.24/hr
Thu 149 hours $43.93/hr
Fri 193 hours $24.61/hr
Sat 524 hours $25.48/hr
Sun 753 hours $24.96/hr


GcluelessstatsnoobG
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08-26-2015 , 11:42 AM
your sat/sun stats are getting to the point that there wont be much movement on them.

no wonder you don't play much on wednesday. woof. only $10/hr. i wouldnt even bother getting out of bed...
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08-26-2015 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
no wonder you don't play much on wednesday. woof. only $10/hr. i wouldnt even bother getting out of bed...
Sad fact: I would snap accept running at $10/hr this year.

G$6.13/hrover333hoursin2015,truestoryG
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08-26-2015 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Sad fact: I would snap accept running at $10/hr this year.

G$6.13/hrover333hoursin2015,truestoryG
Why do you think this is Gobbers?
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08-26-2015 , 12:25 PM
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Why do you think this is Gobbers?
Been giving a lot of thought to it and have some ideas, but also still not convinced it's not just a short term period of bad variance as well. Might address it at 3000 hours especially if the trend continues over the next 600 hours.

GrockingtheOMCwinrateG
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08-26-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
GrockingtheOMCwinrateG
lolz
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08-26-2015 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
+1 to all the "small sample size, absolutely nothing can be concluded" responses regarding the day-of-the-week results

Here are mine thru 2377 hours ($25.13/hr) of 1/3 (and I still think the breakdown is meaningless):

Mon 321 hours $16.12/hr
Tue 245 hours $37.32/hr
Wed 191 hours $10.24/hr
Thu 149 hours $43.93/hr
Fri 193 hours $24.61/hr
Sat 524 hours $25.48/hr
Sun 753 hours $24.96/hr


GcluelessstatsnoobG
Solid stats man.
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08-27-2015 , 05:27 AM
I play approx once a week and generally in 5 hours ish sessions so the hours below have taken almost 4 months to accumulate

9 sessions of 5/5. All 9 are losing sessions. W/R -$70ph
8 sessions of 2/4. All 8 are winning sessions. W/R is $86ph
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08-27-2015 , 08:27 AM
Interesting variance or do you think those results are meaningful?
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08-27-2015 , 08:36 AM
results aren't meaningful at all, I wouldn't think? Have just run particularly badly at 5/5 and gloriously well recently at 2/4, but it's interesting that the experience at the two levels are so different over the last 4 months
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08-27-2015 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
I play approx once a week and generally in 5 hours ish sessions so the hours below have taken almost 4 months to accumulate

9 sessions of 5/5. All 9 are losing sessions. W/R -$70ph
8 sessions of 2/4. All 8 are winning sessions. W/R is $86ph
Move down to where they respect your raises, ldo.

It's pretty funny when you compare stats. My Wednesday results above show I'm the worst player here; but my Thursday results show I'm the best player here.

GmighttakeafewlifetimestofigureoutexactlyhowI'mdoi ngG
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08-27-2015 , 12:41 PM
It's so hard to get even close to meaningful samples based on the day of the week. But I would buy the argument that some days are better than others. Days with more traffic and more tourists are probably better. You've got more tables to select from, and more "bad" players to exploit.

Yes, playing against regs with a lot of history can be insanely profitable once you figure out their tendencies and weaknesses. The problem is that at some of those tables the good spots are few and far between.
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08-27-2015 , 12:56 PM
After some of the worst run bad in my life (funny how happens when you move up), I'm going back to 1/2 and 1/3 for at least a month or two to work on some things and get my confidence back up.

It gets really hard to justify $10/hr at 2/5 when the path to get there is -$1500 one night and +$1600 the next night. Merry Christmas to all the 2-outers and set-minefields I navigated over the last month at 2/5.

I've got 4 more sessions to turn August from the worst month of 2015 to positive. Up for the challenge.
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