it means "person"

yes, in a rather patronising way....kiddo!

the internet is the only place people go around hoping for the opportunity to be offended for someone else

Considering that your first posts in here were talking about your high stakes ventures and asking if you could post brag pics, I don't think it's unreasonable that people viewed "kiddo" as condescending.

Nice to see other large live samples. How many hours do you get in a month?

That's a surprisingly steady winrate up until the slowdown. But even there you're not tanking too hard. That looks like breakeven except for the rake.

There have been a few other 2-4000 hr samples tossed around. But that's one of the more consistently UP figures I've seen from a live game.

Maybe. Maybe not. Variance can do that for a couple of hundred hours easily. But I've seen games dry up when the big donators went broke or got arrested too.

it's also an awesome place to wave your dick around and pretend to be better, smarter and more successful than you actually are.

I wasn't offended and that certainly isn't why I came to tpt. (I come here during work hours to become less efficient and successful in my business). It just seemed to be a patronising phrase.

anyway, it doesn't matter, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, I'm not into silly online 'beefs' and the posts I've read of yours have seemed very sensible and well argued, so I wish you all the very best

I don't know why I even bother responding to this **** but

a) that's just how I talk, I come from a halo background, everyone was called a kid regardless of relative age, race, gender didn't matter

b) I didn't brag about high stakes. my first post was how I play 1/2.

c) literally everyone that tried to become a pro at some point takes shots at 5/10 and higher. I ran good at those stakes for a while so I have around 1000 hours there but I'm not a huge winner, a highstakes pro, bragging about anything.

I'm probably very slightly above the median skill of your average live poker pro. not proud of it. I haven't played a hand of poker in 3 months I've been dealing with mental health issues.

the only reason I posted that stack picture was because 1/2 often discussed here in terms of how much one can win long term/in small samples/in one session. I had a 4k 1/2 session so I wanted to show that.

I'm not successful at all. I have played probably 600 hours of poker in the last year, maybe less. I struggle with depression and I can't really find the balance between the few days I'm happy a week and poker.


I feel like you guys maybe got the wrong impression. I'm very pro transparency in the poker world. so few people see the reality of the life of a full time live grinder, and considering its been my soul source of income for the past 7 years I feel qualified to share my experiences on some things.

sorry if I offended you or anyone in this thread I don't mean to be cocky or unkind. seems like overall you guys are a good group sharing good information and being helpful. thats why I've been sharing here.

you didn't offend me, I'm certain I'm more cocky and unkind than you are (if you are) and I would very much like you to stick around and keep doing what you're doing

Never been called kiddo but a lot of millennial poker players love to use the term "kid" and it makes me want to smack them.

Also, laughed at this quote above which was meant as consolation: "But even there you're not tanking too hard. That looks like breakeven except for the rake."

400 hours breakeven is not that unlikely at all. Anyone else who thinks otherwise hasn't played enough hours.

If you read this popular thread you may think otherwise
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-here-1283096/
This Indiana guy is killing the 1-2no limits.
He also has a Poker YouTube Channel that is pretty epic.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rayrayl76/videos

Now I have to track down that thread and revisit it.

Not offended by kiddo, even though it is likely I'm the elder.

Ironically, I was reading this thread during my session last night when I was 1 outered on river (set over set, quads came, 150bb pot), 2 outered on turn (all in with trips versus aces on flop 100bb deep, ace on turn), and then 2 outered again on river. All for big pots, all same session. It's been like that for 400 hours. I think it's just run-bad, but it's possible I've developed leaks in my game where I'm not winning enough other pots for my winrate to overcome the bad beats.

With it not being *that* difficult to create a $70 pot, plus $1 BBJ drop, plus a typical $1 tip (although lots of people tip more), at 30 hands an hour, that's $270 coming off the table. Sit there for a 8 hour session, that's $2,160 being taken off the table.

We're basically fighting over the table scraps with this much money being taken off the table. When we're the best player there and the others are all ******ed, we'll probably do just fine. When we're perhaps not the best player there and a lot of the others aren't ******ed, it (and even a more typical $5 max rake game) is probably close to being unbeatable.

Git's100%aboutwhoissittingatthetable,imoG


Lolz, I had my first downswing about the first time you did, and was also running at about ~10 bbs/hr when I encountered it. Thankfully I've had some upswings inbetween the two downswings since then, but yeah, **** can obviously happen (lolz, I've actually played about the exact same number of hours as you too).

G2.4bb/hrover310hoursin2015;kindajusthappyI'mwinning,tbhG

Pffft... you can't even beat a home tourney where players can't figure out who wins at showdown and wonder why 3 pair doesn't win over a full house.

Lolz, true dat!

GgettingdealtonehandalevelG

There are some amazing stories in Godfather of Poker from when NLHE was first introduced in Vegas -- they are playing high stakes games (10s of thousands) and it's like your home tourney. They are teaching the rules to players during hands, players don't know if three pair is better than a one card boat, etc. Players want to get a refund at the end of the hand because they called off their 20k stack and didn't understand that their 99 didn't play on a AAJJT board... that kind of stuff.

I know it sucks badly. I just thought it was the norm. Maybe I should move to someplace where the casinos respect my raises.

At what point does the rake make a game unbeatable?

When it's higher than your win rate

That's not true because most games will have a higher rake then most players ever will.

For example" 5$ a hand is 150/hr

Nice troll

Let's assume a TAG ($14/$12) has a WR of $20/hr at $1-$3 with a $5 rake. If nothing else about his game changed except the rake was changed to $7, how much would his WR go down in the short term? (ignoring any and all theoretical effects such as player pool getting poorer due to the higher rake or people switching venues, or people adjusting ranges due to the rake) Asked another way, how many "pots>$60" per hr does this player take down?

How much does the answer change if the player is vpip/pfr $24/$20?

Serious questions. I've never analyzed this question, but I would guess somebody has decent estimates based upon data collected from live games.

Assume for the moment no change in effective stack sizes, which might be a terrible assumption.

Funny this came up as I've been listening to an old Limon podcast from last year about PokerStars' rake increase. He makes a good point where rake increases filter out the marginal regs/pros, thus making a game MORE profitable for the top of the food chain.

This is working under the assumption that recreational players won't care about rake increases and will still play the game.

There are no solid #'s to back the theory up, but it is food for thought.