Just play whatever is most enjoyable for you. If you do that you'll put in 2x the volume and study than if you were playing something you didn't like, and if you do that then chances are your hourly in the long run will surpass that of another game you didn't enjoy but had a higher hourly in the short term.

I really miss that little guy.


Probably PLO cash, if you have the BR for it.

The PLO cash games I've seen are NUTS. I'm not horribly good at it yet either, but it brings out the guys that love to gambool it up for big money. People will tell you that you're never that far behind with PLO, but that's a preflop argument. On the flop or turn it's possible to have an opponent completely and totally crushed and them not even realize it.

No Money in PLO, everyone is Solid.

But the live poker regs love it when you deep stack and bust them

I too play/live in the UK.

From memory if you move tables you take your whole stack.

If you stop playing cash but return within 2 hours, you must sit down with what you left with, more than 2 hours and this doesn't apply.

In my regular UK casino we usually get anywhere between 2, as an absolute minimum, and 6 cash tables going.

Minimum at £1/£1 is £40.
There are distinct buy-in amounts used...
These seem to be several players at £40/50, then many will be buying in at£100 and quite a few at the max of £250.

NOBODY has an issue with the short stacks. If they don't like the fact there are shorties on the table, they switch table.

Hit and runs upset some people but that's stack independent....and usually the grumps that area moaning.

Ya this.

Plo cash is great. Swings are truly amazing. I have 3000 hours of live plo logged from 2-5 to 50-100. and my biggest downswing.went.from 15k. To 30k. To 120k.

In a 900 hour breakeven stretch currently.

98 percent of my seasions are home game.

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That's awesome.

What are you doing in this subforum?

Its on my favorites and once or twice a month ill read all posts and when plo posts are made I perk up. I think I initially subscribed because I wanted info on live standard.deviations some years back.

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50-100 plo? wtf... what kind of BR do you need for that? i need some of dat FU $$$

Some home.games are.weird.

One.night.it started with 10 dollar button.straddle (no blinds)

By the next.day people were geeking and asking.to straddle 100.

I unfortunately ran poor when the games were massive.

As.far as.br reqs...I dunno. More than I have. =)

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$500,000 - $1,000,000 should do it

nice anti-PLO Public Service Announcement

I suppose I need to make it clear.

I love plo and only play plo.

Ya swings are big.but whatever.

Plo is a great game.

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getting myself acclimated with the heralded "2/5 swings" i've heard so much about

7/26: -$1,500 in 3.5 hours (biggest $ loss i've had in a session, not most BB's though)
7/28: +$770 in 7 hours
7/30: +$1,415 in 5 hours

the 7/26 session really beat up my confidence but i knew it was just "one of those nights" so i'm glad i could put together two good sessions without missing a beat. this is where i am thankful i took so long to move up from 1/2 so that i was properly rolled and confident in my game.

BR @ 16.5k

My BR keeps fluctuating between 4-6k.

Bad run in Vegas, and 5 losing sessions last week. Plo/8 mix for -400 (whatever idc as much about this) and 1/2 clobberfest for -700

But four big pots in 1/2 were really bad for me this week.

AK beat by KJ board K 7 4 3 J river, money in on flop$900 pot

Q9 beat by an AQ limp call from a loose, weird player preflop w me leading
Flop KJT for$900 total pot

A9 vs AT against the same player AJ9 T 4 pot 500
I put in the raise pre and bet the hand down

And AQ vs QJ one heart
Flop Th9h5s c/c turn Qh he bets, I raise he jams, I tank call river 6h like $240 each on turn for around $500

I'm not playing great but I still think I net 10+bb/hr against the field w game selection and better Tag style than opponents

Still at 35/hr this year after dropping about 3k between last week and Vegas, like 150 hrs this year

That's cool. Wasn't trying to rip on you. Yours was a sobering message about a game that tilts me at least 50% of the time I try it, whether it's micro stakes at Bovada or 2-2 live at MDL, I find the game confounding.

Maybe you ran way above EV in those 150 hours.

Maybe.

I was running like 75/hr for like 80hrs which I obviously don't think is sustainable. I do think one of my strengths though is game selection.

I almost always play Wednesday, Friday-Sunday. Wednesday is tourney night, so i show up an hour after it starts and play against the first hour bust outs and the weekends bring out tons of fish.
I know the room well and regularly table change away from the ones dense w the tougher regs or just bum hunt.


Idk. I'm actually kind of glad to be losing right now, I've gotten to go back and study a lot more and I feel like if I can run up another 5k this year by playing at 25/hr for 200 hrs (I didn't start playing until late March this year) then I'll be in a good spot to maybe take some 2/5 shots and really see what I can do.

Anyway, pipe dreams, I just feel a lot more comfortable this year than I have at any point in the past 8 years of play or so. Really hoping that it's not just me lying to myself.

People grossly overestimate significance of 150 hours block in LLSNL.

Yes, for a rec player, that could be 3 months, and being a huge winner after 3 months can make you feel like Phil Ivey.

But in reality, it really is a meaningless sample size.

Nonsense. I only count the 150 hr stretches where I run at 100/hr. The outliers are the stretches where I run bad.

I have a friend who talks about his "hourly" from the past weekend. I get the desire players have to extrapolate results... because wtf at waiting for thousands of hours before you can join the conversation.

150 hours isn't meaningless, if your only 150 hours has you up 1500 bbs, then it is like 85% chance you are a winner... meaning > 0bb / hr... not 85% chance that you are a 10 bb/hr winner.

Ya, but we all know that in this forum, 1bb/hr makes you pretty much a losing player.

I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed that I'm doing a little better than $2/hr overall, or at the very least I'm just not in the 15% losing.

In all seriousness though, all that would really mean is that I need to get better. Which I'm OK w, more $$ is Always the goal.

I should probably still be careful. It's been easy for me in the past to make an extra 2-3k in a short period of time and then blow it rather than keeping it in the vault for when i can't do anything but lose for a while. I think I've been better about that this time.

So much this.

I took my entire log and calculated a winrate for the previous 100 hours after every session. It bounces around like crazy. +$40/hr, -$20/hr, all noise. I don't think a sample below 500 hours is particularly meaningful.

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Short stacking is good for the game. When you lose people that suck will have more chips. When you win people that suck will focus on beating you. And then everyone else can clean up shop