Over a 750,000-hand lifetime sample? Maybe 50% that it will happen at least once. And that's not counting bet/folds with TPTK in bad runouts, multiple bricked semibluffs/bricked flop jams with combo draws, etc. etc. etc.

It did. To me. Tuesday night. AIPF or AI w/best hand.

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I don't understand how there is even a debate about this.

My winrate at 2/5 over 900 hours this year is 56/hr, largest "downswing" was 6k and I attribute that to some overly aggro play and the worst variance I've experienced. 10k+ just seems fathomable, and I've played 2.5k hours lifetime of 2/5 where prior to this year my winrate was in the low 40s

Runbad is a crutch by some. Double check your redline.

Played a 1/2 game last night with two big gamblers who loved to call shoves pre. Lets say button straddles, five limpers, then a $80 shove, you get two callers no problem. J9o, QJ, 22, no problem. It turned into more of a coin flipping game than poker.

What is everyones opinions on this sort of game? Say you can easily get it in as a 60%/40% favorite if you are patient and shove AQ+ pre since virtually every pot was straddled with multiple limpers and two gamblers who would call with anything.

Worth playing? Obviously it's frustrating when JJ+ is cracked by random junk type hands. I don't know if it's worth flipping constantly pre, even with 10%+ equity, when I could table change and go to another table and play real poker.

^ uhhh yes obv play that

winrate this year has been ~$30/hr, mostly playing live 2/4 in New Zealand where the games are pretty soft, but also heavily raked @10% $15 cap

I would be literally knocking people over trying to get into this game, buy in for the max and just wait to profit. It wouldn't take long.

It's only one of the most amazing tables to be at...

^ Very cool - I did not even know there was a poker scene in New Zealand. Nice results GL, keep cruising.

.. I actually do have a graph somewhere ITT that shows the range of results to expect for a 10 bb / hr WR, 100 bb/hr stdev player.

You're deluding your self.

If you are trying to play poker for the mental challenge, to best the strongest and most fearsome competition, and to keep your mind working at top gear, and you hate money, then table change.

If you want to make money, and let other people play however they want to "because there is no right way to play this game" (is what you need to tell everyone else...) then stay at this table and profit..

If you can get the money in as a 60/40 a bunch of times you can be rich in no time.

Furthermore AQ+ is toooo tight here


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Hahaha I just LOL'd hard. 100% true.

Put me on the wait list!

"Real poker" means seeking out this type of table and planting yourself there with multiple buy-ins in your pocket and waiting to profit.

Seriously, the only time I wouldn't be trying to get on a table like this is when I'm not playing poker that day.

Im finally caught up reading this thread! (Almost longer than reading the bible)

Definitely more useful than reading the bible.

Lol @ "real poker"

Poker messes with my head in that my two goals are to make money and take on and beat the best players, and those two goals are at odds with each other.

The idea of bum hunting and seeing whales as just walking atms has never sat well with me. I guess I enjoy the challenge of figuring out how to get someones money by playing optimally against their style, but everytime i think "that guy sucks, i want to play against him" i feel like i need to take a shower afterwards.

You can figure out how to get a whales money by playing optimally against his/her style

Question for the grinders:

Logged atleast 1800 hours at 1/2 w/ a decent winrate. Currently on a 2k downswing the last 100 hours. Is this too big of a downswing for 1/2 with 300 max buy in?

Im aware of this. But specifically seeking them out and trying to jesus seat them feels a bit wrong.

What is decent? Its on the high side but not impossible.

10bb/hr