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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

09-16-2013 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
before I beat 2/5 for 50+ an hr, and before I beat 5/10 for 75+ and hr, I beat 1/3 for $30 hr.

That was in dec/January. I am close to positive I can do $50 hr in california 1/3. I have seen one or two people post $50 hr winrates.

$30hr is easy for me and is the standard.

<3

Yea I would but when was the last time you played 1/3? Its so mindless and stress free and requires like no BR. Tbh Im just gonna focus on grinding 1/3 until I have about 25k for 5/T

Blew it, for sure

$50hr at 2/5 is my standard, $75 should't be too hard



all about ze visuals
Yeah, as I said this is pretty much what I would expect from a good player, $30+ at 1-3NL and $50+ at 2-5NL. Oh and not surprised there are young players that are really good but blow through the money in various and sundry ways, but as long as you can scrape together a roll you can build back up pretty easy at lower levels and be back at 5-10 soon enough. Just have to be very responsible to not spend it again before saving up a good roll.

And, yes 1-3 is so stress free because it's loose passive, you can play your draws cheap and push your big hands, everyone is transparent and you can get away from good/not great hands when they show a ton of strength and steal when they are weak. Most 1-2 and 1-3 players may just as well turn their hands over against a good player like you.
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09-18-2013 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jaredf2691
Had no idea where to post this so sorry if this is the wrong place. Been playing somewhat seriously for a few years, more seriously in the past 2 and when I sit down at 1-2 tables I finally almost always feel that I am the best player. Switching between 1-2 and 2-5 right now.

I only a few months ago bought the PokerJournal app and have been tracking my sessions (big mistakes to not do this a few years ago) so I only have a limited journal of my win rate. How many hours is a big enough sample size to know you're beating 1-2? My ROI is $1705 over 70 hours for a $24.42/hour winrate, but I'm curious if that is a big enough sample size to know I am beating it?

Any suggestions, etc, thanks
the higher your ROI is, the less of a sample size you need. Pay attention to the slope of your graph. Once it plateaus out for a bit you should have an accurate description of your winrate

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Originally Posted by crackleback
Yeah, as I said this is pretty much what I would expect from a good player, $30+ at 1-3NL and $50+ at 2-5NL. Oh and not surprised there are young players that are really good but blow through the money in various and sundry ways, but as long as you can scrape together a roll you can build back up pretty easy at lower levels and be back at 5-10 soon enough. Just have to be very responsible to not spend it again before saving up a good roll.

And, yes 1-3 is so stress free because it's loose passive, you can play your draws cheap and push your big hands, everyone is transparent and you can get away from good/not great hands when they show a ton of strength and steal when they are weak. Most 1-2 and 1-3 players may just as well turn their hands over against a good player like you.
It's only time. Winning money at poker is easy. I'm going to probably hit the tables tomorrow

GO ME!

And everyone else of course!
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09-18-2013 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Here's a burning question, how much of that is take home?
Lol
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09-18-2013 , 06:14 AM
Hey guys I play 1/3 and I have won around 4000 since I started playing this year, I am at 200hrs played and 20hr for win rate. I feel like I am definitely one of the better strictly 1/3 players in the room.

When the 2/5 regs sit down to play while waiting for seats I feel like I can hold my own against them. I played 2/5 this summer when most of the better players were in Vegas for the series and I felt pretty comfortable in the game.

So I was wondering if it would be okay to move up to 2/5 with this bankroll?

I can replenish a buyin or two a month from my income. There are a couple of reasons why I would like to do this. I think playing higher helps me build my bankroll faster if I do win. Also I feel pretty confident I can win in these games. There are just as many bad players at 2/5 than 1/3, and even some of the better players aren't that good. What do you guys think?
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09-18-2013 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by whs1919
So I was wondering if it would be okay to move up to 2/5 with this bankroll?

I can replenish a buyin or two a month from my income. There are a couple of reasons why I would like to do this. I think playing higher helps me build my bankroll faster if I do win. Also I feel pretty confident I can win in these games. There are just as many bad players at 2/5 than 1/3, and even some of the better players aren't that good. What do you guys think?
It all depends on what you feel you are willing to risk to play 2/5. It is very possible you could lose 4 BI just due to bad variance and that could stick you down have of your bankroll even though you could be outplaying your opponents on every hand. Reall just a personal preference, but I highly recommend waiting for a bigger bankroll. I've been asking similar Q's. Since the beginning of 2013 I built my roll up from scratch and at about 9000. I've been dying to play 2/5 but I'm trying to wait until 10000, even though many have recommended waiting for higher. Just a personal risk/reward question.
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09-18-2013 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jaredf2691
Had no idea where to post this so sorry if this is the wrong place. Been playing somewhat seriously for a few years, more seriously in the past 2 and when I sit down at 1-2 tables I finally almost always feel that I am the best player. Switching between 1-2 and 2-5 right now.

I only a few months ago bought the PokerJournal app and have been tracking my sessions (big mistakes to not do this a few years ago) so I only have a limited journal of my win rate. How many hours is a big enough sample size to know you're beating 1-2? My ROI is $1705 over 70 hours for a $24.42/hour winrate, but I'm curious if that is a big enough sample size to know I am beating it?

Any suggestions, etc, thanks
70 hours is really not a huge sample size. It is recommended that you play a 1000 hours at your current level to make sure you are a winning player at that level and by a good rate. "Good rate" is defined by what you want to target as your win rate based on expenses or usage of those funds. Moving up is hard to do, but if you plan on moving up, I would suggest additional hours.

Also, the information people are giving you at target bankroll numbers is very important. Of course, if you are only a recreational player and have alternative means of income, it all depends on how much risk you are willing to take. Someone had said that $10000 is a good starting point, but in fact, I would say that is for 1/2. At 2/5, that is only 20 buy-ins and some live players have experienced downswings that exceed that amount. And these are good winning players, so variance must play a role in what you'll be willing to risk.

Lastly, if you do take a stab at it, and your results prove less than what you are expecting, there is no shame in moving back down, both to minimize the losses and to help rebuild your roll. Be willing to be flexible, and understand that variance will happen. If you really are a winning player at 1/2, then start studying 2/5 as it plays differently and there are better players at each level you move up. So it may take some time to start feeling comfortable, but be willing to embrace the variance. Good luck.
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09-22-2013 , 05:30 AM
What up! My winrate has gone up somehow at low stakes (1-2 and 1-3 with less than 800-100 buyin).



This is the last year or so.
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09-23-2013 , 11:00 AM
Nice numbers Sol!

Gassuminggamesareeasierincountrieswheretheyuseweir dcurrencyG
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10-01-2013 , 02:55 PM
Did a quick overview of my 1/3 NL numbers so far this year, and here's a sobering fact:

43% of my winnings to date in 2013 have come in just 4 sessions of the 44 overall (i.e. 9%, with wins of 739bb, 533bb, 497bb and 483bb).

Gum,yeahG
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10-01-2013 , 03:10 PM
Still on my best streak ever, haven't lost in 24 sessions....100% winrate obviously sustainable. 9/28 and 9/30 were close calls with only two tables going and limited action/stacks for the most part, had to grind my way back...

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10-01-2013 , 03:15 PM
Great job wj94
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10-01-2013 , 03:33 PM
Wow, nice W!

Remind me not to invite you into me and Ava's first-to-20-in-a-row-gets/loses-an-avatar prop bet.

GjellyG
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10-01-2013 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Did a quick overview of my 1/3 NL numbers so far this year, and here's a sobering fact:

43% of my winnings to date in 2013 have come in just 4 sessions of the 44 overall (i.e. 9%, with wins of 739bb, 533bb, 497bb and 483bb).

Gum,yeahG
An hourly breakdown to date this year:

For 38:25 (i.e. those 4 monster winning sessions), I've run at $175.86/hr (58.6 bb/hr).

For the remaining 349:45 (i.e. the remaining 40 sessions), I've run at a pedestrian $25.64/hr (8.5 bb/hr).

And yet thanks to those 9% of crushing sessions, my overall this year is $40.51//hr (13.5 bb/hr).

Glol,whendoesthelongtermkickinagain?G
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10-01-2013 , 03:54 PM
Lol 24 sessions is insane.

GG I was just at 6 but blew it and then some last session
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10-01-2013 , 04:43 PM
F u all!
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10-01-2013 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Lol 24 sessions is insane.

GG I was just at 6 but blew it and then some last session
I'm currently sitting at 1. Can't seem to get past 2 lately, and haven't gone past 5 since the streak ended.

GshouldcrashW'sgameandbusthisstreakjustforlaughsG
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10-01-2013 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
F u all!
For those who are unaware, a winning poker session is one where you leave the session with more than you started with. Some debate whether this is possible, but I've heard stories that sound credible.

Gkickingmanwhendown,andthendancingonhisbellyG
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10-01-2013 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Lol 24 sessions is insane.
Yeah, that is impressive. My best is 9 or 10 in a row.

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Originally Posted by 11t
F u all!
And the horses they road in on

Spoiler:
so jealous
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10-01-2013 , 04:56 PM
ridiculously sick
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10-01-2013 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Still on my best streak ever, haven't lost in 24 sessions....100% winrate obviously sustainable. 9/28 and 9/30 were close calls with only two tables going and limited action/stacks for the most part, had to grind my way back...
I'm hopefully going to Vegas in Dec to play the WPT. When I get there, I'm going to track you down and rub your belly for good luck.

Will that make me gay???

I don't wanna be gay

Would blowing on your belly like you were a 3 year old be considered gay?

Which is luckier, rubbing a belly or blowing on a belly???

Just to be safe, I'm gonna do both.

See you in December
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10-01-2013 , 08:24 PM
Just a fish on a heater...you know it's good when you get AA and KK in against TT and JJ 4-bet/5-bet pots for 250bb each in the same week (and hold), and yes dgi, that would be pretty gay.
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10-01-2013 , 08:39 PM
Now that I have 6 months under my belt with this software, figured was time for an update from here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=4982

Play mostly M-F between 9:00am - 6:00 pm (rarely play weekend or when family is home). MDLive recently opened in my area, and home casino had seen a roughly 75%+ drop in traffic. This looks like it is starting to rebound. The players that do remain, however, make the games very juicy. Had to incorporate more 1/2 because 2/5 often doesn't run until the afternoon.





Limit breakdown:


Day of week breakdown:


I am probably more aggressive than I have to be, but I play to have fun and earn money, not neccesarily to extract every last dollar. Hand reading is a big part of my game, and my style is pretty high variance.

I could definitely make adjustments to lower my SD, but I'm not really sure I want to. Overall results have been positive, and I adjust well to table/player variables and conditions. I have a style that I think is fairly unique and plays well to my skill set, but I do understand that "unique style" usually means "fish."

Still a small sample size, but have been a winning player for more than a decade, so I don't think it's just "fish on a heater." This is just the first time I tracked live play so closely. (Used to just be cash in/cash out).

I doubt my 1/2 winrate is sustainable, but these games are really LOL soft.
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10-02-2013 , 01:36 AM
Anyone having any issues with Poker Journal crapping out on iOS 7? It looks like it's a common issue now based on the iTunes store reviews. Anyone find a workaround yet? I can't get my data trapped in there.
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10-02-2013 , 02:01 AM
It seems to crash when you click the tournament tab.
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10-02-2013 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
It seems to crash when you click the tournament tab.
I can't seem to open it at all anymore without it crashing. It gets to the splash screen and then craps out.
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