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01-14-2012 , 03:08 PM
First time poster, am unsure whether i made the right play or not in this hand.
2/5, 9 handed, no limit hold em live game.

Hero - Stack: $730 Position: Utg 2 Hand: 35 Image: TAG
Villain - Stack: $900 Position: Hj Image: New to the table but tight so far.

UTG1 raises to $20 - UTG2 (hero) calls $20 - folds all around - Hj (villain) calls $20

Flop ($67) A-Q-10
UTG1 raises to $30 - hero calls $30 - villain raises to $140 - UTG1 calls $140 - hero goes all in for $680 - villain calls $680 - UTG1 folds

Turn is the K river 2

Villain shows KJ
Villain wins pot of $1567

Sorry if the way i wrote it is confusing, my first time doing so.
Anyway, I knew I was ahead on the flop, so called the bet from UTG1 in the hopes of letting more money into the pot, when villain re-raises and UTG1 calls I'm still sure that I have the best hand, so I go all in. Is it always the right play to go all in whenever you feel/know you are ahead? Some people have said I should have flat the re-raise on the flop and seen the turn before committing more money to the pot. I'm pretty unsure about whether I should continue shoving all in whenever I feel I'm a decent favorite or to play it safe and commit the minimum until I know whether my hand holds up or not.

Any advice or comments from you guys are more than welcome. I think some might say I should have folded the 35s pre-flop but I like mixing up my starting hands and would more likely fold A10o in that spot pre-flop than 35s. First time I've been beat by a royal flush as well btw, it's not fun.
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01-14-2012 , 03:24 PM
Play is standard after the bad preflop call. Why call with 53 its a ****tyy hand makes the arss end of everything.

Your villain's can't get there everytime. Fold pre
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01-14-2012 , 03:32 PM
First off, I would personally have folded this preflop. I know you want to mix up your play, but if anybody else joins in, you'll be OOP deep-stacked, and that rarely works out well. Plus, UTG+1s raise should hold some merit in this game, and you'll be in a bad spot if you just flop a pair. Since you guys are deep, I guess if you play well postflop and can get out of tough spots, then it's ok to call, but I feel that you should be more willing to mix up your play when you're guaranteed position in the hand, and in this case, it's unlikely that you'll be in position if the pot goes multiway.

Postflop, when you just call the $30 bet OTF, I feel you underrep your hand enough to where re-shoving is the best play. Personally, I would have raised to $90 OTF and probably fold to a 3-bet from the PF caller, but call a shove from the PF raiser as the PF raiser has a lot more sets and TPTK w/ NFDs in his range.
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01-14-2012 , 03:48 PM
Preflop is absolutely horrible. After the flop you made your hand and your not going anywhere. Fold pre. The rest is blah.
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01-14-2012 , 04:08 PM
You make your hand but then don't know what to do with it when faced with aggression. Maybe that's a sign that you should fold it pre?
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01-14-2012 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel9861
You make your hand but then don't know what to do with it when faced with aggression. Maybe that's a sign that you should fold it pre?
Well i did know what i wanted to do with it when faced with aggression, I snapped all in after flatting the flop bet in the hopes of a 3 bet from villain (thinking if he did so, he'd most likely have a straight or some kind of big draw), my real question here is, should I have flat the 3-bet from villain to see if my hand holds up on turn or is shoving the better option? My logic at the time was, I'd hate to see a heart come on the turn and be forced to give up so I just got my money in asap hoping he'd fold his hands that had a single
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01-14-2012 , 04:28 PM
OP- I am not trying to be mean but this thread was dead at fold pre. Im sorry that you lost a huge pot. Your going to get a lot of fold pre, you made your hand comments, but please do not take it to heart. Take it personally, but dont take offense. If you call a raise in that position with what are basically rags and then flop your hand but want to play it passively you need to post about starting hands and value betting. Again, this is not an attack on you as most people would take it, its just a mental beat down for your own good.
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01-14-2012 , 04:35 PM
Stop watching reruns of PAD. Ur not Tom Dwan. Ur not playing pro poker players. This is spew to not fold pre.

Last edited by JPII; 01-14-2012 at 04:42 PM.
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01-14-2012 , 05:04 PM
I appreciate that everyone thinks I should have folded pre, and I agree I probably should have in that spot, and will attempt to tighten up my preflop range in future games. But I'm still curious about what the best play was after getting myself into that spot. Let's say it was a limped pot preflop and I'm facing a raise and 3bet to 140 whilst in position on the button on the flop, what do i do here? All in or call and see if turn brings a first?

Thanks for all your comments guys. I dont make loose preflop calls like this all the time btw, 1/10 times ill call a raise preflop with a suited gapper, but thats about it. Will look to limit that to 0/10 when im oop in future.
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01-20-2012 , 12:20 AM
why would u fold pre? you were suited
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