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03-21-2012 , 11:28 AM

Grin -N- Bear IT

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 481

I didnt put my hand because I dont want people focusing on my one holding here. I want to know all the hands you're calling this with (even if it's only 2 or 3). Ill post my hand later if someone wants.

$200 effective stacks
6 handed

Villain- plays pretty straight forward, kinda TAG, not stealing blinds, limp folded a few times

Hero- tag losing image

Btn vs blind

Villain makes it $12 on the btn, sb folds, I call w/ XX

Flop ($25)
Ah 3d Td

I check, he checks

Turn: 3c
I bet $20, he calls

River ($65): Kh
I bet $40, villain thinks and thinks and then shoves

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03-21-2012 , 11:33 AM

diskoteque

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 30,420

AA
33

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03-21-2012 , 11:34 AM

11t

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Probably boats, in a nutshell people are never doing this as a bluff and for ****s sakes he isn't kinda TAG if he is limping at all and not stealing blinds

The bottom of his value shoving range here is QJ

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03-21-2012 , 11:35 AM

11t

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Originally Posted by diskoteque

AA
33

lol you can call here with basically any boat and not be too upset since QJ that floats the turn is such a huge % of his range

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03-21-2012 , 11:36 AM

jack492505

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It would be close with QJ. But no weaker than that.

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03-21-2012 , 11:41 AM

11t

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QJ is a clear fold here imo, all you are beating is like 43s who turned his hand into a bluff (although he might think it is a value raise)

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03-21-2012 , 11:45 AM

diskoteque

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Originally Posted by 11t

lol you can call here with basically any boat and not be too upset since QJ that floats the turn is such a huge % of his range

i didnt think about QJ so youre probably right. i'd probably call with any boat too i that case.

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03-21-2012 , 12:44 PM

Grin -N- Bear IT

grinder

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**** turn card is a 2 not a 3

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03-21-2012 , 12:58 PM

Devilsurf

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2

The 2 not a 3 makes a big difference. If it were a paired board, a good player might be trying to force you to lay odds for a chop with Ax... which is a great line and I do it all the time live with great results. With your updated turn, I'd say he always flopped a set. Since you didn't 3bet pre as you should with TT or AA this is a fold with everything but the nuts.

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