I'm dealt AJo on the button with ~$235 stack. 4 limpers to me. I make it $15.

All call. Flop comes down Jh 5 7h. Checks back to me. I bet $75. Two callers.

First caller called an allin (~$200 allin call) with QJo with a pair of jacks. He has me covered. Only played with him for about an hour.

Second player is pretty tight, bought in for $100 twice. Currently has roughly same stack as mine. Seen him chase draws multiple times tonight, and in the past. He will pay to chase.

Turn is 8x. Both check it back to me. What do you think is the correct play here?

Thanks for your thoughts.

It sounds to me like:

1. You haven't been shown any aggression from either villain (meaning they're unlikely to be super-strong)

2. Both players have shown they are capable of calling with draws and or top-pair-middling-kicker hands. Your hand beats both.

3. The only draws that got there are 46 and 69. Neither seems super-likely although who knows.

4. There's a flush draw out there and the board's pretty connected. Giving a free card seems bad.

5. Given 1-4 above, that we have $145 behind and there's $300 in the pot, I think we get it in the turn and put our opponents to the decision. If they have a boat, weird two pair hand, weird overpair (I've seen QQ just call a raise at 1/2) or straight so be it. I feel like we're ahead though and we shouldn't let anybody catch up.

300 in the pot. You have 150 behind?

Either you can check to jam river or you can jam turn. Which do you think gets more calls? Methinks jam turn. Jam turn


yea, jam turn, hate life when someone shows 46

I wanted to take the pot down on the flop.

Upon thinking about this hand, and talking to a friend, I think a raise to $50 would accomplish the same thing.

Pot is $300 and you have $145. With your flop sizing I think you committed yourself to the hand. I think shoving is the best play. If you get beat just buy more chips.

What was your thought process on the flop? You should have an idea of your turn play for each turn card, before making a flop. Thinking ahead will help you improve.

i wanted to make them pay for any draw or just take it down right there. I had my decision made for any non heart turn.

I have had a bad couple of months on the table. Frustration is a bad thing at the table, and is a big reason the flop bet was larger than needed.

Always trying to improve my game. Appreciate your feedback.

first up, I think you would get better feedback from the forum if you wrote up your hand history more clearly and with more detail

reads/history go at the beginning and then take us through the hand step by step.

as an aside, how can player 2 be both pretty tight and pay for draws? this is misleading and is worse then useless as a read.

LuckyAceFour is right - your bet sizing/strategy is all over the place.

With 4 limpers, I think you should have raised more on the button with the aim of thinning down the field on the flop - I would be betting 22-24 there and hoping to be heads up or 3 way max. As it is you get 5 way, which is not a great place to be with AJ off, even on the button.

On the flop, betting the pot creates a pot commitment issue. The pot is now 285ish (it would be great if you'd told us) and you have 145 behind with TPTK. You are pot now committed and have only one option. You would have created a horrible situation for yourself if a scare card had fallen and you'd been shoved on or if you'd been check raised on flop

In future, before betting, think through what your plan is for each eventuality as a result of your bet.

in this instance, I would shove, because as a rule, I keep betting at 1/2 with TPTK and above until somebody plays back at me or shows considerable strength.

Agree with everyone on bigger bet pre, and smaller on the flop.

In this spot I don't think it would have changed my situation much. $20 pre + $50 on the flop =$70 and $210 in the pot (assuming the I only get two to the flop).

I'd be left with ~$160 into a $200+ pot, with TPTK.

I shoved the turn. Big stack ended up having JJ for a set.