I was in a 10-20 game and I wasn't in the hand but it was very interesting and I want to know what others would do. The villain is utg. He is very tough player who I have played with a few times. I think he is one of the biggest winners in the game. He doesn't make mistakes very often and doesn't bluff in big pots that I have seen. Effective stacks and bets sizes estimated but pretty close. Hero has 4.5k. Villain covers.

Villain raises utg 60 and hero in position calls with 88.

Flop comes j87 rainbow. (150)

Villain bets 120. Hero calls.

Turn is a 6 no back door draw (390) villain bets 320. Hero calls.

River is a 6 for a j8766 board (1030) villain bets 700. Hero raises to 1700. Villain 3bets allin.

What would you do if your hero on the river considering the opponent? What if hero held 77?

Some questions:
-what is V's perception of you and especially your willingness to put $ in the pot with the non nuts?
-how thinly does V go for value?
-does his UTG opening range include the occasional 76s or 86s?
-do you think V thinks you'd ever take a raise-call line with 9T?

I'd call expecting to be beat a lot. I think V does shove worse often enough for this to be a profitable call.

I was not hero. I saw this hand when I played 10-20 this weekend. This hand was as straightforward as it gets. Both had value hands and hero and villain knew it. Hero was tight and straightforward and villain knew this. I'm sure villain value bets thinly in the right spots. I don't think villain raising with suited connector type hands utg. He is a pretty tight raiser from what I've seen even in position.

I'd prolly raise the flop a ton unless villain just always folds over pairs.

since villain is one of the best regs and biggest winners, I doubt he three bets all in on the river with 77 against hero who is a perceived tight straightforward player.

your post seems to suggest that he wouldn't ever be bluffing here. I think you set this up for us to want to say fold. it's a sick fold, but if hero is super tight straightforward and we know villain knows this and is never bluffing here, I don't see how calling is right.

Then hero's a donk for not raising turn and will call and lose. I probably fold though his lines pretty strong.

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I guess if it was two regs who know each other's games well and it is a straight forward situation as you describe it, it might be closer to a fold, but V will still show up with a non JJ/66 hand sometimes.

Too lazy to whip out the calculator now, but if V is only shoving boats/quads, and never has 76/86, then he prob needs to be shoving 77 >50% of the time in order for us to have enough equity against his range to make this a call. From your description, he's not shoving 77 that often so this is a fold in theory. In practice though, I'm probably calling this off because it's live poker and people show up with weird hands a lot.

I think flatting here is fine, but I'd def raise if V thinks I'm semi bluffing often with pair + straight draw hands and will continue often with over pairs.

Otherwise, if V is aggressive and will value town or bluff again on the river but always fold to a turn raise, then flatting is fine.

This was not the type of game where people were semi bluffing turns or anything like that. I've played in very loose games where everyone starts loosening up and doing a lot of non standard stuff and calling light is okay. Folding full houses is not cool or right usually but in certain games and against certain opponents and certain action, it is the only correct option. Middle set actually complicates this particular hand a bit though

They will also continue with those hands with a raise aswell. There's a big wrap on the board and don't want to reward his aggressive play. Should have raised flop, can't slow play that hand verse a solid reg.

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Why delay action to the river?