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12-23-2011 , 12:16 AM
A little bit of history which is relevant:

Villain is in the BB in this hand, hero is CO both with 100 bbs. This is 2/5.

Folds to me, I raise with 67 to 20. Button calls, SB calls and BB calls.

Flop (80) 729

Checks around

Turn (80) 7

SB checks and BB check, I bet 60, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

River (200) A

BB bets 120, I shove BB folds AK face up.


Since then, it seems like villain plays pretty ABC and predictable, although he plays too many hands and isn't very aggressive pre.



Hand 1: We're both 100 bbs deep.


He limps utg+1, I iso from MP to 25 with JJ and it folds to villain who calls.

Flop (55) 1052

I cbet 40, he calls

Turn (135): 10

He checks, I check.

River (135) 7

Villain bets 130









Hand 2 150 bbs deep now and villain has moved seats

Villain limps from mp, and I iso from co to 25 with KA folds to villain who calls.

Flop (55) 27j

Villain checks, I bet 35, villain calls.

Turn (125) 5

Villain checks, I check

River A

Villain bets 150
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12-23-2011 , 12:24 AM
Hand 1 I would've bet fold on the turn.
As played I fold the river.

Hand 2
I play it pretty much how you did and I fold on the river. Doesn't seem like he would value own himself w/ worse or make a blocking bet w/ something like KJ.
I think he either has a set or something like AJ and from all the hands seems to play super passive.
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12-23-2011 , 12:49 PM
Hand 1
I fold AP. Looks like he missed a c/r OTT. That said, not sure why you didn't b/f the turn.

Hand 2
I call here. I think V may have an idea he can print money against you with this line, so range is prob wider than AJ and sets. There are prob some weaker Js and PPs in there too.
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12-23-2011 , 03:12 PM
Hand 1 I'm not sure he calls 9s on the turn, and that's the only hand I'm getting value from.
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12-24-2011 , 08:26 PM
I still don't see what bet/folding turn accomplishes other than folding out some 6 outers.
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08-04-2015 , 06:54 AM
hand 1a, you could try raising the river to 240-250 instead? I don't see villain calling with anything but better 7s or AA, 77, 22 when you shove
perhaps bet folding the turn on TT defines villain's range and protects your perceived range?
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08-04-2015 , 08:46 AM
I think you have to call in one if these hands to get the info on V w/r/t this overbet otr.

I think the two hands are equivalent. V is representing the nuts or nothing in both. H's hands are bluff catchers.

If you don't have any more info on V, then I probably fold the JJ hand, and call the AhKh hand just because of the order occurring.

Time to watch closely to see what his sizing tell means.
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08-04-2015 , 09:24 AM
Somehow managed to be even worse than I am now apparently. I hate hand 2.

H 1 is super close.
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08-04-2015 , 10:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
Somehow managed to be even worse than I am now apparently. I hate hand 2.

H 1 is super close.
Not sure I understand...
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08-04-2015 , 10:55 AM
Think I'd call h2 and fold h1, don't like how I played h2 though.

Wish I could remember where this was.

This is a funny thread to bump
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08-04-2015 , 11:07 AM
Ah... 2011 thread necrophilia.

(lulz... I was kinda wondering why you were newly posting strat threads... )
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08-04-2015 , 11:32 PM
in hand 2 maybe villain rivered 2 pair or has a set? he can't represent much as a bluff and I don't think players play that many 2 pair Jx combos maybe J7 is possible?
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08-05-2015 , 03:35 AM
In game I don't think I'd fold hand 2 but based on the description in OP it seems like a fold....use white magic to determine call/fold or provide more comprehensive profile of villain. Hand 1 is an easy fold, IMO.
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08-05-2015 , 04:39 AM
i think your butchered both hands
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08-05-2015 , 04:57 AM
Hand 2 definitely. Hand 1 pretty standard.
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