Fish has bad bet sizing tells. Loves to stab and pots with middle pair, draws, etc. Will continue if just calls. When he does the ''same bet'' it is typically a weak hand trying to set the price.

Reg. has typical reg range. Can find a fold when his one pair is probably no good. Does a lot of calling with made hands. Sometimes raising draws.

Blinds

Hero is seen as a TAG.

1/2.

Fish ($120) and Reg ($200) limp, hero (covers) raises JT in CO to a dealer friendly $14, blinds fold, fish and Reg. call.

Flop (41): J52

Fish bets $25, reg calls, hero calls

Fish can have lots of stuff here. Reg probably has a Jack or a heart draw or a set.

Turn(113): 8

Fish bets $25, Reg calls, hero ships.

I think it's fine, although raising the flop would have been better, I think, and probably would have told a more realistic story -- most players with a big hand would not just call after two players on a flushy board.

Fish's small bet on turn and reg's just calling make the ship good. I doubt reg is just calling again with a set. You might be behind AJ, though.

Edit: It helps if you put pot sizes in hand.

Yea I find this to be a difficult spot only because of the donk bet on flop by Fish. I have been seeing this kind of donk bets by fish a lot more recently and they were confusing me at first, lately I have just been treating most of them as top pair (altho betting $25 by fish in big pot on turn makes it feel like a flush draw).

I think this hand is difficult to play with flop call and jam turn. I would have preferred a raise on the flop to $80-100. This way you can rep either an over pair or AJ minimum. If you get called by Fish and Reg at this point I'm not so much in love with the hand anymore (unless 1 caller which checks river then I'm almost always checking back any heart or Q+ river).

I am tempted to like the flop call because we get a lot more information on the turn. If the board were K-high and we had KT, I would definitely like a float, even a 2-suited board.

Edit: I believe the flop was actually J53

...Not that it changes much.

I would play it the same way probably, but although you can be certain that the reg would fold, I doubt the fish is ever folding after investing over 50% of his stack.

Did he show up with a better kicker?

Btw, are you shoving turn for value? Asking because QJ/KJ/AJ could easily be in their ranges which makes me feel you're doing it as a semi-bluff.

Pretty sure Fish has a draw when he bets $25 again on the turn. When reg. doesn´t raise I think a set is less likely, but who knows, not the time to worry about monsters under the bed. I definitely would like to get the fish to put the rest of his chips in here and I´m thinking the reg may or may not come along for the ride with a flush draw. If he has QJ-AJ he can probably find a fold, no? I´m repping a set of Jacks or eights, AJ, or an overpair here.

Raise flop for value from fish's weaker jacks and both players heart draws.

As played, I don't like shipping turn as it's hard to rep an overpair or a set, unless its three 8s. Your inability to rep something may not matter if they are both on draws, so if that is your read then certainly go for it if you're afraid of a heart on the river. But you shouldn't be. I like just calling on the turn to keep in the fish's weak bluffs and perhaps even the reg's call of said bluff or a bluff of his own. If you believe they both have flush draws, then it makes it less likely a heart will come.

This way, you also lose less to a bigger jack or random two pair.

Results:

Lmao @ results.

As far as the hand goes, the turn is probably a ship or fold, and since you're squeezing the reg here you can't really be showing up with any bluffs. But yeah, you're basically just denying equity to the reg if he has a flush draw, and you're turning your hand into a bluff if he has you outkicked.

If he was able to out level you and realize the fishes range is super weak, and thus you can be shoving lighter then one would normally shove in a "multi" way pot (I quote the word multi because you can really discount the fish in this hand), then I would say don't do that. But my guess is most regs at this level will be unwilling to get in QJ here, so I really like the isolation.

It's kinda like bluffing into a dry sidepot when a fish is all in for $30 pre, because you should be perceived to never be bluffing even though you can easily be betting light since the fish has ATC