5/5 NL. $1k Buy-in cap game.

Hero: Has neutral image at the moment, V2 has commented to Hero that he thinks Hero loves to gamble
Villain 1: Played with him only one session before, he plays his nutty-type hands (mostly sets) slow/goofy with small bet sizing. ~$500 effective
Villain 2: Tight scared money that overplays top pair and overpairs a lot usually buys in for $200 has $600 eff. at the moment.

(8-handed atm)
V1 limps UTG
Hero raises CO to $25 with K Q
V2 calls on BTN
BB Calls

Pot = $105
Flop: Q 10 7

BB Check, V1 Check, Hero bets $65, V2 calls, BB folds, V1 Calls

Pot = $300
Turn: K

V1 Check, Hero ???

What is our line? What is our sizing and at what size are we bet/folding? Or do we always bet/call against V1 and never against V2? Any comments about prior streets are welcome. Thanks in advance!

hmmmm

I'm ok with pre and flop ... I'm checking the turn with expectations of V2 checking behind and calling any river bets (read and bet size dependant); flush draw still out there, AJ/J9 just made their straights, TT is possible for a set, you're likely blocking QQ so thats not to worry, and its mildly-reasonable V1 may hold 77 for a set.

Would hate to overplay top two pair in the face of their draws

My goal would be would fade their outs (draw to their misses for cheap) and see if its a winner at showdown or a min-loss and move on.

Betting the turn I'd hate to see V1 check-raise you off the hand and giving up on the pot.

I can't check the turn in this situation because of all the draws that can get there and make it really tough on the river. I think you are probably good here and either bet $200 OTT to try and get a call from both or just go ahead and move all in. I don't really know your stack size if you started with less than $500 I'm all for sure.

I just shove turn - people barely have over PSB left (or did I read stacks wrong?). You don't have enough room to justify bet/fold with effective stacks.. so if you bet like $225, it should be bet/call

Betting turn and only really worried if a spade or a J comes on the rvr..

Not worried about v2 in the least tbh...

I think I'm getting it in on the turn. Unlikely for sets to flat the flop multiway on such a wet board. We get value from FDs, combo draws, worse two pair. If someone binked a straight....we have 4 outs to redraw

Thanks for the replies guys! ALRounder and Bip!, I started that hand having both Villains covered, so V1 has $410 on the turn (he had exactly $500 because he just bought in) and V2 had somewhere around $600 to start so he has like $500ish or a little more.

Pot = $300
Turn: K

V1 Check, Hero bets $175, V2 folds, V1 raises to $410 ALL IN

Pot = $885 , $235 to call

Hero ???

I agree that we cannot check back the turn and, in the moment, I decided to bet close to 200. However, the K is a very scary card to our opponents and over $200 is a big bet after having just bet $65 (both villains are oblivious to the pot size and remember V2 is scared money). I am thinking more around $100 to $125. In this case can we fold to a shove for like $285 to $310 more equity wise?

Thanks in advance!

Lol don't fold.

Agree turn is a jam.

Lots of combo draws out there

You have to call. 235 to win $1100 here...it's very possible V has a pair with the draw here..if he turned the straight we still have outs.

That's the big key. You have top two pair, and still have outs if the straight did hit. You have to call for that bet sizing. He very well could of had a lone King.

Top top two pair on a very drawy board. Even if villain has AJ or J9 you have fh outs and that's like the top of his range, this is combo draws or pair + draw a large amount of the time IMO.

As played call.

Well, you aren't getting the odds to draw to four outs if you are beat. You are about 9 percent to hit a boat, so 11:1.

I'm not good enough to fold this in game, though. So many more hands he could be jamming with.

Thanks for the replies again!

I agree I cannot fold given action. It just sucks that I have the K! I don't fully understand the justification for shoving (essentially $500ish into a pot of $300 effective against V2 and $400ish against V1). In my experience I tend to see players (at least in my games) give up draws on over bets. Anyway, my big question is the scariness of the King to the other players, can we ever bet smaller and fold to a c/shove from V2?

No. If you're going to bet it needs to price out the draw which takes the half pot bet you made.

You're not really drawing to a nut flush or nut straight and being multiway I would like to check here and see the river.

If it was heads up with some other draws I would like the bet here. Based on your holding and action I don't think you have any better information on his hand.

WAT

Bet/call $225. I'm not folding to the shove.

Thanks for all the replies! I'm still curious as to if we can ever bet smaller on the turn, but here are the results:

V1 raises to $410 ALL IN

Pot = $885 , $235 to call

Hero Calls $235

River: 7

V1 shows J9