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03-12-2017 , 10:18 AM
Here ($650): Mid 20s WG. Winning image, just felted a guy earlier when I over shoved, he called and I binked 2 pair on turn. Probably viewed as TAG if anyone is paying attention, opening from position quite frequently. i think I've limped once. Been at table for a few hours.

V ($550): MABG. Pretty spewy, super talkative, but getting good cards. I think he's been here about two orbits, has got it in 3 times already an showed each time with killer hand. Have seen semi-bluff once with mid pair on a wet board, got it in and a guy called with OESD w/ flush and his pair held up. Seems like he over values some hands, but I have a pretty small sample size.

We are the two bigger stacks at the table.

OTTH:

Two limpers, then V limps in MP. Hero bumps is up to 18 in the CO with Q 8. Folds around to V who flats.

Flop: Q8 5

V leads out for $60 pretty confidently. He starts talking to me telling me to fold or something. I wasn't really listening.

I raise it to $160 total. He says "ok, I tried to let you know," or something like that and shoves AI.

Hero?

Last edited by zpmew; 03-12-2017 at 10:19 AM. Reason: Missing Cards
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03-12-2017 , 10:24 AM
call

you lose to 55 block 88 and shouldnt have QQ often. He would want to raise with all his 9TJ club hand.

also could see V with AA/KK here
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03-12-2017 , 11:12 AM
I think it's a pretty easy call given your reads on him. With 4 combos of reasonable sets, he should have enough Q8/Q5/85 overplayed top pair hands and bluffs to call.

The speech doesn't mean anything if he is always talkative as you say.
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03-12-2017 , 04:09 PM
There are literally only five hands that beat you: three combos of 55, and one combo each of 88 and QQ. He's got a bunch of draws as well as two combos of 85s. Unless your read is super strong, I think you have to stack off here. "I tried to let you know" could simply be a good combo draw or bottom two pair. That said, it's definitely strength. I would never expect him to have air here.
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03-12-2017 , 05:53 PM
PF may be a little spewy. How much fold equity do we have at this table? It sounds like your table is super loose, so I wouldn't expect to get this heads up very much, which is going to get you in a bloated multiway pot with a crappy hand.

On the flop, V would do this with all of his TPGK hands, probably QJ and up. Like others have mentioned, Q5 and 85 in his preflop limp/ calling range, nut-flush draw, straight-flush draw, and pair+ flush draw.

Not only do we block QQ and 88, I think we can all but eliminate these hands from his MP limping range, after being on a heater, this V type is raising QQ and 88 PF most of the time.

This is a fist pump GII spot.
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03-12-2017 , 08:43 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.

Regarding table dynamics: It wasn't super loose, definitely not the loosest I've seen. Usually two or three limpers, but a late position raise usually dropped total
Players to the flop to two or three. People generally didn't get too stuck after limping. Part of the reason I widened my range a little in position.

I put V on TPGK, MAYBE an over pair, and quite possibly a flush draw. Though he's been in quite a few hands, I haven't seen him get too out of line. Just been running hot. Granted, I didn't have a lot of history on him.

I called his shove. Board brought a third club on the river, but my two pair held up.

V flipped over pocket Aces. Said he was going to ATM and to hold his seat...

...he never came back.

Last edited by zpmew; 03-12-2017 at 08:45 PM. Reason: Auto correct
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03-12-2017 , 11:30 PM
Easiest call in the world vs this guy. Not sure why this is a thread?
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03-13-2017 , 11:49 AM
Third time I've said this this morning, but I guess you know your table if a $18 raise after 3 limpers is going to narrow the field to HU in position with initiative, so nice result. I'd fold preflop at my normal table.

SPR is about 13, so we could play for stacks with a PSB on each street. Do we want to play for stacks against this guy? My guess is that we're ok with that, so if so, I'd go ahead and raise the flop to commit. I'd probably raise to $200+ to allow poorer odds for the flush draw.

I think we've sorta made our bed to play for stacks thanks to the preflop raise. If we hadda overlimped, we'd have an option to do something different.

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