Effective stacks about 1200.
Hero has been playing an hour. Played a lot with every player. Hero has been playing tag with an opening range of 99+ ajs+ aqo+ for anyone noticing. Has yet to show down. Hasn't played more than 2 hands so far. Last hand picked up AA in sb and "squeezed" an opener and a few callers . Took down pot on flop.

Villain. Best player at game. Views hero as tight and bluffable. Hand reads extremely well. Will raise if senses weakness. Plays for a living for better part of a decade. Has 4k in chips. He was initial rasier previous hand and only preflop caller of 3b. Rarely plays oop and rarely plays weak aces and kings etc.

A few limp to villain in mp, raises to 40. 4 callers. Hero has KK in bn raises to 210. Villain tank calls. Rest fold.

Pot about 550
Spr lclose to 2.
Flop is K 9 4 r
Good Cbet flop for range.
Villain checks. Hero bets 230. Villain calls

Pot 1110
Eff stacks 700ish
Turn 8 no fd
villain picks up chips and takes time before checking. Hero checks

River
10
Villain checks. Hero bets 350. Villain tank folds.


I believe villain is folding every turn and by checking back we hope to either induce a donk on river or make him believe c/c is good if he thinks he has SD value.

How do we max this line. We aren't getting 3 streets without a cooler situation based on villains read of hero.

If you want max value you have to bet the turn. He could still have a draw to a straight or a hand you don't even think he would show up with here. Make a smaller bet to do something out of character if you don't want to make a standard bet on the turn.

Reads: villains range leans towards AK tt-QQ. Would raise with aces for value preflop also kqs is smaller part of range.

I think you got the max value here. Villain is never calling 3 streets and getting 2 is tough. I think he had QQ or MAYBE AK but I think he calls river with AK.

I was just thinking: if you bet small OTR, since he is a thinking player- could be consider that weakness and try to turn his QQ into a bluff raise? Just a thought- and maybe you can get a crying call vs a 1 pair hand like QQ.

I bet he just folded QQ

I like the idea of betting smaller ott. What amount do you think?

I like $300 on turn as it looks like you are trying to bet bigger to rep something yet you leave room to b/f if it is a 2 barrel bluff. He might convince himself to call or even spazz raise since he has tanked 2 times now and given off the old "hold chips" to freeze bettor tell.
Truth be told he isn't paying you off light with your image & his skills. I doubt he thinks you 2 bar that board with less than AK & maybe AA.

Villain must give me credit for jj+ and AQs+. I have taken similar lines on pre, flop, and ott with jj/QQ and aq in past instances

This^

Given villain's description, i think it is unlikely he puts in money on the river unless he's ahead.

I'd also think about c-betting a fair amount more on the flop. Not sure what range he puts your 3bet on but assuming it is close to your opening range, that flop missed a lot of it. Maybe the larger c-bet will have him thinking you are just trying to buy the pot. And if he called the 240, my sense is he very well may have called $360-400.

1/2 bet Turn (or slightly above), if he folds he folds. River makes for an easy shipperu

"same bet" lol

bet turn
bet river

What is your reasoning? Bet size on turn?

Well, if you want max value, you need to bet every street. The most important street here is turn...your villain is very good and views hero as "bluffable"
Plus if he is good, he is not floating you on the flop with air
here, villain can call a reasonable turn bet, whereas if hero checks back, then villain would likely get to showdown as cheaply as possible if unimproved by river.
Longterm, IMO, you lose more value by checking back and hoping to induce rather than taking the standard line of b/b/b

Turn pot is 1100, Eff is $700.......bet 450-550

If he views me as bluffable why don't we want to give him a chance to lead the river. If I bet 450-500 ott then villain can't shove with any fe. If I bet ott doesn't it make it easier to realease jj-QQ and maybe AK. Vs this particular villain I don't think he can call turn and river unimproved. But my thinking was that I may get 1 more street of value if I checked back. Vs stations o less thinking players I go bet bet shove

What range of hands did you put villain on after he calls flop bet?
and since you say he is thinking at a higher level than just his own cards, what range of hands does he put you on?

Grunch

I bet $240 OTT. Looks like a scared feeler bet with AK, AA, that he has a decent chance of raising. No need to chase him out, let him draw to JJ-QQ and get some value/build pot for a shove while doing it. Shove any river obv.

You wont get his stack unless you bet turn. He wants a free card hence he's fiddling with his chips to see turn. I dont know how sick a player he is but how about you posting this hand instead:
Villain checks turn, hero checks for deception
River 10 villain checks, hero bets 340, villain raises all in
Hero calls, villain turns over QJ, hero mucks

Villain never has QJ here, he has AK/QQ/JJ or random pp's.

villain is not check/calling flop with QQ, JJ....coupled with the fact that it is reasonable to assume villain may 4bet pre with QQ.

AK is possible, although its one combo of AKss and 4 combos of AKo

IMO, villain check calling flop is a slow played set, or a hand that can viably improve (backdoor flush + gutter, backdoor flush + pair)

Tt-QQ AK aq. I don't see him with gappers like kjs etc oop here vs a large 3b. I see him play spec hands but almost always ip.

Tbh I don't think I'm ever getting stacks but I think I can extract more than I did. I almost guarentee we don't see qj ever

I left out mid set in his range. Maybe aks for bd fd. I think he doesn't 4 b QQ or jj as he is very confident in post flop play and has to think I'm not budging after my 3b. I've been a rock today. There is some meta at play maybe but we haven't played together in 3 weeks

Fair enough. any reason not to consider 10Jss in his range? i.e. gutter + bdfd
It actually makes sense, given his actions/demeanor on the flop/turn/and river?

Also, once you 3bet this large, your hand is really face up and the type of hands that have the most equity against a big pair are the medium suited connectors....

I'm not sure if it is necessarily face up with history. I think he can put me on aq, maybe even jj as a very strong part of the range as many players are scared of playing jj/QQ post and want to win now. I have stacked light before at this game. Once to him months back. He is very perceptive and I doubt he has forgotten. This is the second consecutive hand that I've 3bet him.

We were playing 4 handed one time and I 3 and 4 him with a super wide range for an hour. I don't always play the range that I was playing yesterday. I actually lag it up more recently until the last 2 sessions.