Game is T/T with a $10 BB ante. Hero is the effective stack with 3k. V seems like a decent pro but I have limited information.

V opens BU $40, H calls BB with Kd9h

Pot: $90.

Flop: Kc7s3s.

X, V $50, H calls.

Pot: $190.

Turn: 2c.

X, V $350, H? H calls.

River: 2h.

Pot: $890

X, V $700, H?

Turn is an overbet spot so it is good sizing by Villain.

River is a call. You can't have many better hands besides KT/KJ and sometimes KQ.

Fold preflop with the occasional reraise. K9o is right in the annoying part of the range where you are ahead of villain's range but will have a lot of trouble post flop OOP.

Call flop, evaluate on turn, call river. As played the real decision is on the turn. You can't call the over bet on the turn and then fold to the relatively smaller river bet without a good read on his betting patterns.

I really have no idea what I do here at the table. It looks like he is trying to push you off a meh KX on the turn. But I'm not a big fan of calling over bets with meh hands. It's very much make a live read and go with it.

I'd fold preflop too in a non ante game. But the Ante makes it a clear call, there is too much money out there to just concede the pot.

Also to OP this is BTNvsBB, ranges can't be much wider. He should be opening over 50% of hands preflop with the ante structure.

Your hand looks exactly like KxXx. Does he really expect you to fold it on the river?

I'm not sure you should call the turn to fold the river, though, so it's a sigh call.

Thinking about it, it'd be really fun to raise the river, especially if you have the right image, but I'm not sure I could pull the trigger. Plus, I'm not sure he's folding a K, and most Ks beat us.

What are you repping if you XR river

Who knows? I could have As2s, 33 -- although you'd think H would raise with that on flop or turn, but maybe V has been aggressive? The question is will V fold a K?

I wouldn't raise here, but I wouldn't be here. I'd 3bet or fold pre, and if I flatted, I'd do something other than check/call -- unless I knew V would keep betting with worse than K9 vs. a hand that looks exactly like K9.

It would be interesting to know how H is perceived at the table.

These are things that cannot be known though. That's why you play a range.

If Villain can hand read he should just snap off a shove (and he can if he is overbetting this turn), your bluffs need to make sense.

You can just fill in KJ/KQ instead of K9 if that makes it easier. Or do you not have a flatting range in the BB?

i don't know dude, its just a shitty spot. seems like he has us beat.

So you fold KJ/KQ here too?

If V can hand read, and you think he can, river is a snap fold unless H has been folding to pressure. I really want to know H's profile in V's eyes.

I think a shove here would be really hard to call with just a K. What is your range for V?

I don't really have a flatting range in BB vs. "decent pros" where I'm going to be heads up OOP. I don't see the point.

This is just silly. So 77 you are only folding or 3 betting vs a 3bb button open?

You got me. I might call with a small/medium pocket pair, but that's about it.

You block the hands you are trying to get to fold and repping pretty thin.

Playing 3-bet or fold is bad from the BB because you have an incentive to flat a wide range of hands due to pot odds and closing action. If you 3-bet your entire continuing range you’re either 3-betting way too wide and playing deep and OOP with too many weak hands or you’re folding a lot of hands that are +EV defends. Are you just folding stuff like K5s, QTo and 75s? If so then you’re getting run over.

Probably very few people have any idea how to properly construct blind defense ranges because this isn’t an aspect of play we need to know at LLSNL. Most opens are 4x or larger, most pots go multi-way and opening ranges are too tight so there’s little incentive to call OOP. Blind defense is not a necessary skill under these conditions. I don’t know how to do it well either.

super bluffy sizing on the turn and river. call is almost completely V dependent. his range of hands that beat us are a sets of 7s, 3s, or deuces. hard to see him blasting off with just AA or AK.

considering that V is deep stacked and blasting away from IP, I am more inclined to call. Would want a solid table read before folding.

Ugh. We literally block 0 barreling hands.

Prob have to call with all KQ combos as he could conceivably have KQ still (as hero seems unlikely to have a better hand). From there we need to continue 56% of our total range. Seems like any King X of red is going to fall into that.


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I don’t think we represent 33 well here at all.


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Does he really 2x pot on turn for value?

I fold pre and then fold to the turn overbet, yes he may well be exploiting us but I don't like bluffcatching for 100s of bb without more info on the villain.

AP I guess sigh call river, not exactly happy about it though.

the river is a really fun and interesting spot, I think the best play on the river is to turn your hand into a bluff and shove.

V has overbet the pot on the turn and bet almost 80% pot on the river. In most live games, in a HU pot, if someone bets pot or near pot and they get 2B too a sizing of 3x or more, that 2B is usually a nutted hand. I think you'll get a lot of credit for boats here and potentially draw folds from hands that could be going for value here (AA, AK, KQ, etc.)

I don't think your V here is expecting a shove here from you and I think it'll totally throw him off.

Super gross turn spot, Hero would have these hands (I think many people flat KxQy here) I suppose Hero would also have Kx7x and probably some frequency of Kx3x and Kx2x...I think more interesting is how to construct continuing ranges to such a big bet on the turn do we shovel with 2pr on the turn or just call to strengthen our c/c range. If we raise is it always sets/ what bluffs do we have AcJc?

While it puts AA and AK in a bad spot and gets some folds and gets folds from KQ it also seems like a good way to dust when you run into KK,77,33, some 2x3x, Ax2x checks back alot on the flop but also could bet some and barrel a good card

wanted to edit my last post, but I think if we were more shallow 2-2.3k we could just exploitative jam the turn with 2pr+ and our few combo draws (i.e Ac3c,Ad5d) Villains IMHO won't exploit our value-heavy range by overfolding once they overbet the turn...with our stack depth I think calling with 2 pr/ some frequency of sets on the turn is prob better to protect our c/c range.

Interested to hear ppl's thoughts

Are we really calling off 1k American dollars from the rock bottom of our range here? I’d need 50+ hours with this V before I’m taking this line. It’s a very interesting theoretical problem so I’m glad Hero posted. I find I lose the most money from the blinds against a V I perceive to be raising wide from the BTN