1/2 300 cap buy in

Hero mid 40s long haired hippie. Decent image winning current session playing ABC. Probably not relevant since villain hasn't been at table that long.

V 40 something MAWG, bit of a dickish attitude. Rudely telling people blocking his view of super bowl to move. Made crazy bluff in first orbit that worked against young bad maniac LAG. Showed it. Think he was making a statement. Has played straight forward passive since.

V(~280) limps utg +1
Sb completes
H (~750) bb with 7,6 off checks
Flop (6)
2,2,7 rainbow
Sb checks
H bets 10
V calls -
Turn (26)
6
H bets 20
V calls
River (66)
2 for board of 2,2,7,6,2
H bets 35
V raises to 85
Hero does?

What do you think of river and turn bet? Do I ever get called by worse? Note - I hate check calling, almost always prefer bet folding.




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I don't like the flop bet, or the flop sizing if we plan to bet.
What sort of range of hands do you expect to get value from?

Board is super dry so we can't get value from draws, there aren't a lot of worse 7's to get value from, and lower pocket pairs won't often call a 1.75x psb.
If we bet, I'd bet smaller.

Turn sizing is ok, but the pot is too big for our hand. While we get ahead of all other 7X, we are still losing to all 2x, and over pair.

River is meh. We should be getting called by worse pretty much never.
What hands do you think that he is getting to the river with?
We are chopping or losing. Def fold to the raise.

Expect to get value from 33-66, and perhaps 2 paint cards that float. Honestly though expect most of the time to get a fold and win the 6 bucks now. Is it ever OK to bet with plan to just win the pot now when we are likely to have the best hand, instead of checking and hating most any turn card that comes? Just checking/giving up with this flop against 1 field limper and SB felt really weak passive to me.

As for flop bet size, agree relative to pot was way big. However this is 1/2 and absolute size it was small. Heck normal PF opens at this table were for 12. Guess a smaller bet would have been more likely to get worse hands to call.

Turn thought was a good card as I was now ahead of 7x, improving my hand a tiny bit against range that would limp pre and just call flop. Agree that I could still be behind 88-1010 or X2. In hind sight really think only hand I beat that calls turn is 7x. 33-66 and unpaired over cards likely fold, leaving rest of his range that calls being ahead of me.

Been thinking a lot about my river bet. I've been so focused on not check/calling that when in doubt I opt for bet/folding. This is a case where I should have gone with check/folding. This limit people are show down monkeys that people don't bet for thin value all that much.



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I like how you played the hand until the river. If you checked the river would he bet any FH? Like 33-55? would he bet his A hi (bluff any air)?

I don't think you should be folding this river, so as played I'm calling the raise. But depending on tendencies a river check/call might be better( especially if villain is the type to limp 66- 88 types pre, or you've seen him slow play his big hands)

Your repping a 2 out of the bb when you lead twice, 66 could be waiting till river to raise(?) or now that the third 2 hits he thinks your fos and could be bluffing Ax as easily as value betting 88 or 55. I think check/calling the river is the play here.

There is nothing wrong with betting top pair on the flop, nor is it a mistake to continue when you improve ott. Otr once your top two pair in counterfeited is where you should consider slowing down.

Let him value own himself w/ smaller pp's, bluff any A highs or gutters 34, 45 that some how got to the river, keep some stronger holdings in your river check range, lose the minimum when your beat.

River is way too thin.

Playing out of the blinds can be fun. Love it when two steely-eyed poker players square off over a $5 bet into a $6 pot OTR. High fives and a round of drinks for everyone!

When the pot gets up to say $66, it's not quite as much fun, is it?

I think the most +EV move out of the BB is to get the hand over with as quickly as possible. Bloated pots like this always wind up being a cluster ****. Don't get cute out of the blinds.

Results
Hero folds and villain shows 10,2 for quad deuces while commenting that ya gotta play the Doyle hand.

Thanks all for the feedback.

Retrospect, the river bet was just way too thin a spot for value. Most people at this limit seem to love to get to show down on the river and rarely bet or raise for thin value. Thin value is what separates the good versus most from standard villains in this game. In this spot, nothing worse would call and nothing worse would raise so check/folding was the best option.

I'm OK with my flop bet. Turn bet size was OK if betting at all, but think a check would have been better. I'm not likely to fold out better or get called by worse (except maybe by 78,79,75) So really no point in betting turn at all.

River bet was pure stubborn - when in doubt bet - spew.


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Not really a fan of making a protection bet like this OOP for a $6 pot. From a value perspective, most of the hands that call us have us beat. I'd rather play a small pot with our mediocre holdings. Don't like the sizing on either the flop or turn, and don't see the point of betting the river.