https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpxmyeY724g&t=154s

Their first video is not so bad. I love the idea that these 2 guys are making free content applicable for live low stakes games.

I've read both of their books, (highly reccomend) and wanted to do them a solid by linking their new youtube page.

Thanks for the link, I enjoyed the video and their casual down-to-earth back-and-forth.

Overall, I can't say I necessarily agree with their bet-until-told-otherwise line, but it really is dependent on a lot of variables. Some quick notes:

- extremely opponent dependent; the more ABC face up calling station your opponent is, the more the bet/bet/bet (to fold) line is fine; the more tricky aggro your opponent is, the more meh it is
- extremely image dependent; the more aggro laggy image we have, the more it is fine; the more nitty image we have, the more it's meh
- obviously very stack dependent; if we're committed, commit; if not, we don't have to bet the turn (and likely shouldn't if it brings up a river commitment spot)
- really depends on the type of game you play in; I find LLSNL gets a certain image (calling station ABC fish, such as their example where their opponent calls a cbet with nothing but 2 overs on the flop), and if you're playing in a room that offers multiple stakes then perhaps (?) that might be true; but if you're playing in a room where the game you are playing in is the only stakes going (which is the case in a lotta rooms), this blanket approach to who your opponent is might not be a great approach
- betting the hand on the turn just cuz we think there is a good chance it is best ain't always a good enough reason to bet it; against ABC fishy calling stations, it likely is; but against tighter players who will fold mediocre hands that are drawing slim (but payoff one more bet if the turn checks thru) or against bluffy players waiting to pounce on weakness (especially when there draw busts which it will the vast majority of the time), there is a lot more reason to check
- I think in these cases it actually makes more sense to double barrel the weaker hands rather than the stronger one pair hands (a point they made, although obviously don't do this against calling stations)
- really dislike the idea of 4barrelling any TP that doesn't have TK (i.e. they mention value betting KJ for a 4th time on the KT9xx board, which is value towning ourselves against 99% imo); think this is an easy check back against almost all opponents unless they are a mega calling station or we have a very aggro image
- and while there is something to be said for barrelling setting up bluff equity in other spots (as they discussed), overall my guess is most of our profit is still betting for value (and not bluffing) so the benefit isn't overriding
- like the idea of fast folding when check/raised (indicating we were bluffing air instead of capable of bet/folding TP)
- yesterday I saw the nuts check the river, a bet, the nuts check/raise, and the other guy 3bet (and instantly fold when shoved on); so the ol bet/3bet river bluff; yes, it's rare; but it happens; again, this blanket approach to who you are playing with at a typical LLSNL game can be a dangerous one

Hope they do some more videos!

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